Interesting state matchups/rematches

[ObseverW]

34 minutes ago, cbg said:

If this match takes place it could easily come down to how the match is officiated.  If the official allows the match to be slowed down and one wrestler to back out of bounds, wrestle on the edge tie up wrist and basically do nothing in will be a huge advantage to one wrestler.  However, if the official hits the wrestlers early for stalling or delay of match for backing up and not taking legitimate shots the wrestler with a high pace and style will benefit greatly.

This match should take place this weekend at sectionals. Same with a Walker vs Workman final.  As far as matches being high pace and such, not sure which wrestler you are talking about that has to slow it down, I mean one had a finals match last year that ended 2-1 in SV, when high level wrestlers wrestle they don’t usually end up as 18-15 matches, they are usually low scoring matches and I have a feeling this one will also since they are so closely matched.  Going to be some really good sectional matchups across the state. 

[cbg]

3 hours ago, ObseverW said:

This match should take place this weekend at sectionals. Same with a Walker vs Workman final.  As far as matches being high pace and such, not sure which wrestler you are talking about that has to slow it down, I mean one had a finals match last year that ended 2-1 in SV, when high level wrestlers wrestle they don’t usually end up as 18-15 matches, they are usually low scoring matches and I have a feeling this one will also since they are so closely matched.  Going to be some really good sectional matchups across the state. 

Again, if the official forces both wrestlers to wrestle and does not allow one wrestler to stall you should have some points scored.  IMO, a 2-1 SV match equates to some serious stalling going on when the wrestlers were on their feet.

[LocalHero]

3 hours ago, ObseverW said:

This match should take place this weekend at sectionals. Same with a Walker vs Workman final.  As far as matches being high pace and such, not sure which wrestler you are talking about that has to slow it down, I mean one had a finals match last year that ended 2-1 in SV, when high level wrestlers wrestle they don’t usually end up as 18-15 matches, they are usually low scoring matches and I have a feeling this one will also since they are so closely matched.  Going to be some really good sectional matchups across the state. 

Agreed. High level matches a lot of times one wrestler baits the other into a mistake. High level matches can look boring at times. All kids are not offensive machines. Zac is pretty technically sound on his feet so it def won’t be one sided in neutral. I think one takedown will be the difference 

[LocalHero]

3 minutes ago, cbg said:

Again, if the official forces both wrestlers to wrestle and does not allow one wrestler to stall you should have some points scored.  IMO, a 2-1 SV match equates to some serious stalling going on when the wrestlers were on their feet.

There was a lot of scrambling in that match 

[ObseverW]

1 hour ago, LocalHero said:

Agreed. High level matches a lot of times one wrestler baits the other into a mistake. High level matches can look boring at times. All kids are not offensive machines. Zac is pretty technically sound on his feet so it def won’t be one sided in neutral. I think one takedown will be the difference 

Well, last years matchup at sectionals was 5-2, but that was because Chase chose bottom and gave up back points to Zac. Zach chose bottom in 3rd and got an escape, Chase got a TD and Zac got an escape. So on the feet only person to get a TD was Chase. Very well could be the same this time around, should be worth the price of admission. 

[clevelanddad]

6 hours ago, ObseverW said:

Well, last years matchup at sectionals was 5-2, but that was because Chase chose bottom and gave up back points to Zac. Zach chose bottom in 3rd and got an escape, Chase got a TD and Zac got an escape. So on the feet only person to get a TD was Chase. Very well could be the same this time around, should be worth the price of admission. 

Chase is a dirty wrestler. We saw what he did to Bosken last year and the official didn't call it.

[KidGloves]

15 hours ago, clevelanddad said:

Chase is a dirty wrestler. We saw what he did to Bosken last year and the official didn't call it.

Clue those of us that didn’t see it in. I did not see that match. 

[Wrestlefan]

23 hours ago, clevelanddad said:

Chase is a dirty wrestler. We saw what he did to Bosken last year and the official didn't call it.

Hmmm? A certain Cleveland wrestler was literally caught cheating in the state finals but somehow Chase is the dirty one? Interesting. I would also love to know what you saw last year because I definitely saw someone else cheat.

[clevelanddad]

1 hour ago, Wrestlefan said:

Hmmm? A certain Cleveland wrestler was literally caught cheating in the state finals but somehow Chase is the dirty one? Interesting. I would also love to know what you saw last year because I definitely saw someone else cheat.

When wrestler A has ahold of wrestler B's leg while standing and wrestler A karate chops wrestler B across the knee that is DIRTY WRESTLING. Maybe that's a new move I'm not aware of. Cheating and trying to cause injury is two different things.

[Wrestlefan]

35 minutes ago, clevelanddad said:

When wrestler A has ahold of wrestler B's leg while standing and wrestler A karate chops wrestler B across the knee that is DIRTY WRESTLING. Maybe that's a new move I'm not aware of. Cheating and trying to cause injury is two different things.

I guess I would have to see it because what I’m picturing from your description sounds like he was attempting a very legal single leg takedown finish. If he was just straight up dropping karate chops from the position you described I don’t know how it could be anymore obvious and how an official would not have called it. 
 

I do appreciate how your reply seems to imply cheating is acceptable, just don’t be “dirty” and actually does not refute the fact that cheating occurred in the state finals last year by a certain Cleveland wrestler.

Edited February 14 by Wrestlefan

[clevelanddad]

4 minutes ago, Wrestlefan said:

I guess I would have to see it because what I’m picturing from your description sounds like he was attempting a very legal single leg takedown finish. If he was just straight up dropping karate chops from the position you described I don’t know how it could be anymore obvious and how an official would not have called it. 
 

I do appreciate how your reply seems to imply cheating is acceptable, just don’t be “dirty” and actually does not refute the fact that cheating occurred in the state finals last year by a certain Cleveland wrestle

You need to go back to wrestling 101. So your saying in a single leg takedown a karate chop is a new legal move.And this has nothing to do with state finals. He is still a DIRTY WRESTLER. 

[Wrestlefan]

12 minutes ago, clevelanddad said:

You need to go back to wrestling 101. So your saying in a single leg takedown a karate chop is a new legal move.And this has nothing to do with state finals. He is still a DIRTY WRESTLER. 

I think you need to go back to English 101. If you apply some reading comprehension what I said was if he was just straight dropping karate chops to the knee from that position it would have been so obvious that even the blindest of officials would have seen it and called it. Again, I did not see it and am only going off of your description. From that, what it sounds like happened was his free hand came down in a chopping motion in an effort to grab the inner thigh then rotate his feet and finish the single leg. Where this relates to the state finals is verified/called cheating is “dirty” to me.