KCS had no reason to fire Bearden coach Josh Jones.

[Elias287]

I recently attended the 7v7 event in Tennessee, where I spotted Josh Jones, the new offensive coordinator at Knoxville Catholic. This made me think about how a coach could completely transform a mediocre football program (outside of a few years when they had a quarterback who did them good) into something noteworthy. In just three years, Jones managed to compile a record of 25 wins and 13 losses, all while facing powerhouses and never backing down from competition. You can say whatever you want about Josh Jones, but the truth is he did what others in Knoxville were doing—like West, Powell, and other surrounding school I don’t need to name, you know them—and they still continue to do it today, except maybe West nowadays, but that’s for another reason. Did he recruit like a private school and recruit players from outside Knoxville, which is crazy to do? Absolutely. But did he ever get caught for doing any of that? No. Is there any hard proof he did any of that? No.

Now, let's talk about KCS. They’re paying their coaches less than what recreational league coaches earn, all while raking in substantial revenue. It raises a lot of questions, doesn’t it? The pay for Knox County coaches is shockingly low, forcing many talented coaches to leave. To put it in perspective, an assistant defensive line coach in North Carolina (2A) makes more than a head coach at a Knox County school in 6A, which only pays about $8,500 a year. How is this possible when every team generates enough revenue to pay coaches what they deserve?

This is where booster clubs come into play, often stepping in to provide financial incentives to coaches. It’s not uncommon, but focusing on Bearden—since we’re discussing Josh Jones—let’s talk about how three head coaches at Bearden earn significantly more than $8,500 a year, and rightfully so. The girls' basketball coach has a state championship and multiple playoff appearances, the boys' basketball coach has similar accolades, and the soccer coach has enough state championship rings to fill both hands. Shouldn’t football coaches also be compensated fairly for their work?

I may not be an expert on the current state of the Bearden booster club, but from what I’ve heard, it’s in shambles and largely controlled by KCS nowadays. However, back in the day, from what I’ve heard from very trustworthy sources, they were the biggest spenders in the Knoxville area, especially after Farragut poached their baseball coach (which we all know how he turned out), leading to significant changes.

KCS must have known about all of this. It’s hard to believe they weren’t aware. So when the booster club made a mistake, they targeted the right individuals—the booster members. Josh Jones should’ve kept his job, but he didn’t. Why exactly? Well, from every source and site I’ve consulted, it indicates he was fired because two booster members forgot to submit the right paperwork. They had never needed to do this before, so it should have been a minor issue—just a slap on the wrist for the booster members. That’s why those involved stepped down quickly and quietly, with no backlash from the football team or athletic program.

But then, less than a month later, Josh Jones was forced out, with the only explanation being given related to the booster club's issue, which should’ve been a problem for the booster club alone. They had nothing to do with the football team or head coach Josh Jones. This situation reeks of something deeper. There’s no logical reason for his firing, there was no resentment towards him from the school community or the parents. I’ve talked to numerous individuals, and not one has had a bad word to say about him. The only dissenting voice I found was from a former coach of the previous staff, now head coach of the girls' flag football team. Outside of him, no parents, players, faculty members, or administrators have expressed concerns about Josh.

It feels like this decision to fire Josh Jones came from KCS and KCS only, stemming from something he didn’t even do. What’s really going on here? Someone has been needing to say this since the day he was fired, and I’ll gladly be the one to say it, now all the Josh Jones hard on haters are immediately gonna come in here and start flooding this thread with a bunch of nonsense. I already know that, but I really do wish someone, who maybe knows the real reason why this happened and why he was fired could speak up because honestly, I don’t care for Bearden, but this whole thing is horse shi**.

[BarneySox2007]

The only thing I even know about Bearden is from some of the parents that are friends through my facebook who posted really negative things and mostly because they had kids that were starters that lost their positions due to transfers that came in. A lot of those people were heavily invested in the program until their kids were moved to 4th quarter mop up squad and most quit as to play that roll. When Josh got fired one of those parents posted in celebration mostly because he felt his son got screwed over, I'm sure a lot of those people must of worked hard at trying to pierce the veil of Josh Jones would be my guess.

[MoEastBeast]

9 hours ago, Elias287 said:

I recently attended the 7v7 event in Tennessee, where I spotted Josh Jones, the new offensive coordinator at Knoxville Catholic. This made me think about how a coach could completely transform a mediocre football program (outside of a few years when they had a quarterback who did them good) into something noteworthy. In just three years, Jones managed to compile a record of 25 wins and 13 losses, all while facing powerhouses and never backing down from competition. You can say whatever you want about Josh Jones, but the truth is he did what others in Knoxville were doing—like West, Powell, and other surrounding school I don’t need to name, you know them—and they still continue to do it today, except maybe West nowadays, but that’s for another reason. Did he recruit like a private school and recruit players from outside Knoxville, which is crazy to do? Absolutely. But did he ever get caught for doing any of that? No. Is there any hard proof he did any of that? No.

Now, let's talk about KCS. They’re paying their coaches less than what recreational league coaches earn, all while raking in substantial revenue. It raises a lot of questions, doesn’t it? The pay for Knox County coaches is shockingly low, forcing many talented coaches to leave. To put it in perspective, an assistant defensive line coach in North Carolina (2A) makes more than a head coach at a Knox County school in 6A, which only pays about $8,500 a year. How is this possible when every team generates enough revenue to pay coaches what they deserve?

This is where booster clubs come into play, often stepping in to provide financial incentives to coaches. It’s not uncommon, but focusing on Bearden—since we’re discussing Josh Jones—let’s talk about how three head coaches at Bearden earn significantly more than $8,500 a year, and rightfully so. The girls' basketball coach has a state championship and multiple playoff appearances, the boys' basketball coach has similar accolades, and the soccer coach has enough state championship rings to fill both hands. Shouldn’t football coaches also be compensated fairly for their work?

I may not be an expert on the current state of the Bearden booster club, but from what I’ve heard, it’s in shambles and largely controlled by KCS nowadays. However, back in the day, from what I’ve heard from very trustworthy sources, they were the biggest spenders in the Knoxville area, especially after Farragut poached their baseball coach (which we all know how he turned out), leading to significant changes.

KCS must have known about all of this. It’s hard to believe they weren’t aware. So when the booster club made a mistake, they targeted the right individuals—the booster members. Josh Jones should’ve kept his job, but he didn’t. Why exactly? Well, from every source and site I’ve consulted, it indicates he was fired because two booster members forgot to submit the right paperwork. They had never needed to do this before, so it should have been a minor issue—just a slap on the wrist for the booster members. That’s why those involved stepped down quickly and quietly, with no backlash from the football team or athletic program.

But then, less than a month later, Josh Jones was forced out, with the only explanation being given related to the booster club's issue, which should’ve been a problem for the booster club alone. They had nothing to do with the football team or head coach Josh Jones. This situation reeks of something deeper. There’s no logical reason for his firing, there was no resentment towards him from the school community or the parents. I’ve talked to numerous individuals, and not one has had a bad word to say about him. The only dissenting voice I found was from a former coach of the previous staff, now head coach of the girls' flag football team. Outside of him, no parents, players, faculty members, or administrators have expressed concerns about Josh.

It feels like this decision to fire Josh Jones came from KCS and KCS only, stemming from something he didn’t even do. What’s really going on here? Someone has been needing to say this since the day he was fired, and I’ll gladly be the one to say it, now all the Josh Jones hard on haters are immediately gonna come in here and start flooding this thread with a bunch of nonsense. I already know that, but I really do wish someone, who maybe knows the real reason why this happened and why he was fired could speak up because honestly, I don’t care for Bearden, but this whole thing is horse shi**.

60k in undocumented monies is a pretty substantial reason. Whether the money was used in good faith or not, it still has to go through the proper channels. The schools own AD turned the coach in, which could speak to the way in which their prior convos have went. 

[Missletow]

9 hours ago, Elias287 said:

I recently attended the 7v7 event in Tennessee, where I spotted Josh Jones, the new offensive coordinator at Knoxville Catholic. This made me think about how a coach could completely transform a mediocre football program (outside of a few years when they had a quarterback who did them good) into something noteworthy. In just three years, Jones managed to compile a record of 25 wins and 13 losses, all while facing powerhouses and never backing down from competition. You can say whatever you want about Josh Jones, but the truth is he did what others in Knoxville were doing—like West, Powell, and other surrounding school I don’t need to name, you know them—and they still continue to do it today, except maybe West nowadays, but that’s for another reason. Did he recruit like a private school and recruit players from outside Knoxville, which is crazy to do? Absolutely. But did he ever get caught for doing any of that? No. Is there any hard proof he did any of that? No.

Now, let's talk about KCS. They’re paying their coaches less than what recreational league coaches earn, all while raking in substantial revenue. It raises a lot of questions, doesn’t it? The pay for Knox County coaches is shockingly low, forcing many talented coaches to leave. To put it in perspective, an assistant defensive line coach in North Carolina (2A) makes more than a head coach at a Knox County school in 6A, which only pays about $8,500 a year. How is this possible when every team generates enough revenue to pay coaches what they deserve?

This is where booster clubs come into play, often stepping in to provide financial incentives to coaches. It’s not uncommon, but focusing on Bearden—since we’re discussing Josh Jones—let’s talk about how three head coaches at Bearden earn significantly more than $8,500 a year, and rightfully so. The girls' basketball coach has a state championship and multiple playoff appearances, the boys' basketball coach has similar accolades, and the soccer coach has enough state championship rings to fill both hands. Shouldn’t football coaches also be compensated fairly for their work?

I may not be an expert on the current state of the Bearden booster club, but from what I’ve heard, it’s in shambles and largely controlled by KCS nowadays. However, back in the day, from what I’ve heard from very trustworthy sources, they were the biggest spenders in the Knoxville area, especially after Farragut poached their baseball coach (which we all know how he turned out), leading to significant changes.

KCS must have known about all of this. It’s hard to believe they weren’t aware. So when the booster club made a mistake, they targeted the right individuals—the booster members. Josh Jones should’ve kept his job, but he didn’t. Why exactly? Well, from every source and site I’ve consulted, it indicates he was fired because two booster members forgot to submit the right paperwork. They had never needed to do this before, so it should have been a minor issue—just a slap on the wrist for the booster members. That’s why those involved stepped down quickly and quietly, with no backlash from the football team or athletic program.

But then, less than a month later, Josh Jones was forced out, with the only explanation being given related to the booster club's issue, which should’ve been a problem for the booster club alone. They had nothing to do with the football team or head coach Josh Jones. This situation reeks of something deeper. There’s no logical reason for his firing, there was no resentment towards him from the school community or the parents. I’ve talked to numerous individuals, and not one has had a bad word to say about him. The only dissenting voice I found was from a former coach of the previous staff, now head coach of the girls' flag football team. Outside of him, no parents, players, faculty members, or administrators have expressed concerns about Josh.

It feels like this decision to fire Josh Jones came from KCS and KCS only, stemming from something he didn’t even do. What’s really going on here? Someone has been needing to say this since the day he was fired, and I’ll gladly be the one to say it, now all the Josh Jones hard on haters are immediately gonna come in here and start flooding this thread with a bunch of nonsense. I already know that, but I really do wish someone, who maybe knows the real reason why this happened and why he was fired could speak up because honestly, I don’t care for Bearden, but this whole thing is horse shi**.

Rusty Bradley is the OC at Catholic Jones is a position coach. Possibly recruiting coordinator 

[coachspanky]

Not sure what 2A school in NC is paying their assistants more than a head coach in Knoxville but in 2017 & 2018 at Watauga County, NC (4A) I was making $1700 with over 10 years experience. Our head coach at the time was making around 8K.

[Aitch]

11 hours ago, Elias287 said:

head coach at a Knox County school in 6A, which only pays about $8,500 a year.

KCS simply just doesn’t care about sports. They have the money, they have the funding, but they will never actively make any sport better. Unfortunately, it’s gonna stay that way until we get some new board members, or Glenn Jacobs, eventually steps in and does something.

[Aitch]

1 hour ago, coachspanky said:

Not sure what 2A school in NC is paying their assistants more than a head coach in Knoxville but in 2017 & 2018 at Watauga County, NC (4A) I was making $1700 with over 10 years experience. Our head coach at the time was making around 8K.

Dirt cheap, I know an assistant coach down in Georgia making 16 times that, but of course that is Georgia. 

[Aitch]

1 hour ago, MoEastBeast said:

60k in undocumented monies is a pretty substantial reason. Whether the money was used in good faith or not, it still has to go through the proper channels. The schools own AD turned the coach in, which could speak to the way in which their prior convos have went. 

It did go through all the channeling, the issue was it wasn’t improper order, it’s not like they hide it from anyone.

[MoEastBeast]

8 minutes ago, Aitch said:

It did go through all the channeling, the issue was it wasn’t improper order, it’s not like they hide it from anyone.

That’s my point, it was not done correct. That’s the issue 

[Aitch]

40 minutes ago, MoEastBeast said:

That’s my point, it was not done correct. That’s the issue 

Well, if it’s anything Elias said, it’s on the Booster Club, not the coach, which is correct. The coach didn’t have control over the paperwork. It was up to the Booster Club.

[MoEastBeast]

1 minute ago, Aitch said:

Well, if it’s anything Elias said, it’s on the Booster Club, not the coach, which is correct. The coach didn’t have control over the paperwork. It was up to the Booster Club.

Incorrect.

SSOs are under the guidance and responsibility of the head coach. This is all why Josh wasn’t ready. Non-faculty head coaches don’t pay attention to the rules like teachers who coach do. Time to get back to that model. 

[BigTime1950]

You all sure like to beat a Dead Horse!