ThePunisher

I just heard from someone at Heritage that 3 more seniors quit the team yesterday.  Where does that put them numbers wise?  Based on prior posts, they may now be at or below 30.

According to the schedules on CoachT, the AE Baseball team has only won 13 games in the last 15 years, and 0 games since 2012.  Cancelling that sport would be a blessing to AE and all of their opponents.

8 minutes ago, MLREB said:

Correction....goes to Alcoa to get a ring......more so than Maryville the last few years. 

I will agree with that.  

If you truly have the ability to play football beyond high school, playing at Maryville is probably the thing to do.  You will get more exposure and look better than you really are, because you will only have to play one way and the better players around you will help you be better.  If you stay at Heritage or WB, you will play both ways and most times not get as much help from your teammates.  The chance of injury or just getting worn out are much greater.  However, over the years many kids that could have been contributors at Heritage or WB have gone to Maryville to get a ring while never playing a down outside of mop-up time.  That gives Mayville a big advantage in the depth chart, and kills the depth at the county schools. 

Sounds like the South Doyle dad should have been telling his wife to shut up too instead of going after the other guy. No pitcher hits 3 consecutive batters on purpose in an elimination game. For the score to be 23-13, they must have been playing slow-pitch softball, so it couldn't hurt that much.

What has happened to Bearden this year? Their record is terrible, and many of the games are not even close.

I see that Siegel got to play all of its AAA State Tournament games on their home field. Should that really be allowed to happen? Shouldn't they have been moved over to the other bracket?

I saw Pigeon Forge play the other day and noticed that the former South

Doyle coach (resigned in December)was in the dugout all decked out in

PF gear and his son was playing for PF.

 

What is the deal with that? He still teaches at South Doyle.

I do agree to an extent. Did these players play in varsity competition last year? Were they granted a transfer by Knox County? Are they freshman?

I think they did play in varsity competition. TSSAA transfer rules require a move by the kids and parents, and that didn't happen. I don't think what

Knox County does has any bearing. I don't know if they were freshman, but

that would make a difference.

 

If your maroon and black F avatar has anything to do with Fulton, you should

be able to find out.

The statutory rape of the players is not a TSSAA issue. However, I believe

they do have jurisdiction when 2 players that live in another school zone in Knoxville move in with a South Doyle Assistant Coach and play for South

Doyle.

It will be interesting to see just how much of the real details come out in the Sentinel. If the whole thing comes out, I can't imagine that the TSSAA won't be interested.  Then again, if you pull shenanigans and still go 0-10, maybe they won't.

 

Field looks awesome.

What are the dimensions of the new field? The resolution in this picture

isn't high enough to read the distance in CF and I don't see any other

distances in this picture. It kind of looks like it says 300, but that can't be right.

Barney,

Alot has changed since then. I just looked at the population of Blount County in 1980 and there was 77,000 people living in the county at that time. As of 2010 there was over 123,000 people and I'm sure the population has grown significantly in the past 5 years. And alot of that population growth is happening on WB's side of town. WB had success when we had Meadows and after he left we fell off a cliff but now that Shad is here we are on the upswing again. And you keep criticizing the Middle Schools combining the football teams when they are 3-1 right now and their 1 loss was a 7-6 loss to Sevier Co. I guess Maryville and Alcoa are the only ones that should be allowed to have one strong feeder program. We wouldn't want another team challenging their monopoly on championships at the middle school level would we?

Population numbers don't really tell the whole story for the county schools.

They lose a lot of kids off the top because athletics is just not an option

for them. At WB, several live closer to North Carolina than WB, and sports

is off the table. For HHS, the same thing happens because kids have to work

the farm or get a job to have any money at all. Therefore, the pool of kids to pick from is more on par with other schools that have about 2/3 the

number of students.

 

The county schools have some players that are every bit as good as the city school stars. The difference is their supporting cast, the fact that they

have to play both ways and the fact that they are totally worn out or

playing hurt for most of the season.

I disagree completely. This sounds like the victim mentality that is becoming pervasive in modern society.

 

I refute your argument  by presenting the four year coaching span of one Scott Meadows.

 

2007      8-2-0   1-1-0      9-3-0

2006      6-4-0   1-1-0      7-5-0

2005      6-4-0   0-1-0      6-5-0

2004      3-7-0   0-0-0      3-7-0

Or it could just be the stars aligning and a group of good athletes came

through during that time period with a good coach. The baseball team was

good during that time as well. Since then, not so much in either sport.

 

Even George Quarles can't coach up a mule to win the KY Derby.

Here's some actual statistical data for the Punisher from the WB perspective:

 

From 1979 to 1990 the Govs managed one .500 season, with the rest being losing seasons (Mike White & Steve Gordon)

In 91 the Govs go 8-2 (seems like Oak Ridge demolished us first round of playoffs that year) (Steve Gordon)

From here through 1996, the Govs have five more losing seasons. (Gordon and Steve Fickert)

From 1997 through 2003, the Govs were .500 or better every season (Fickert, Earl McMahan, John Reid, Ronnie Phelps)

From 2004 - 2007, the Govs have 1 losing season and 3 winning seasons (Scott Meadows)

From 2007 till now, its been all losing seasons for the Govs.

CoachT has the records back to 2001, so thanks for the data before that.

Heritage has been 4-6 twice since 2001, and everything else is below that.

I think they had a few decent years between 1978 to 2000, but not many.

 

15 seasons out of 73 for the 2 schools above .500 including playoff losses

is probably a stretch.

Unless something changes with the schools in Blount County, you are

delusional to think that HHS or WBHS will ever be good in football on a

consistent basis. Both schools have been around going on 40 years now, and

you would probably struggle to find 15 winning seasons between them.

 

Over the years, you have had dozens of kids that would have made the county schools much better, move or pull shenanigans to go line up for playing

time and a ring at one of the city schools.

 

You might have sporadic 2 or 3 year periods when the stars align and they

have a winning record, but that is all the county schools can ever expect.

You can always identify the Farragut parents. They are the ones keeping

scorebooks where their kid hits 50 points higher than reality and never

makes an error.

3 days and not a single reply, so I guess I have my answer.  Nobody cares about Oak Ridge Baseball.

For years, Oak Ridge Baseball always finished in the top half of District

3AAA and above .500 overall. Last year they dropped way down, and this year they only won 3 or 4 games. Football and Basketball have risen, but

Baseball has fallen drastically. Where has all the talent gone?

The worst thing about the 6A division is that everyone gets into the

playoffs. I assume that the worst team in Region 1 will have to travel to

play the best team from Region 2 in round 1 of the playoffs. Therefore, a

(2-8)team like William Blount will have to travel 200 miles to play a (10-0)

team like Ravenwood to get their brains beat in. This is a worthless game

that serves no purpose. The game will be in running clock mode before

halftime, and nobody wants to drive 3 hours to watch garbage like that.

 

If you don't make the top 4 in your region, you don't belong in a playoff

game.

I can understand your thoughts that the punishment is a slap on the wrist. To everyone outside the Coalfield program, it probably looks that way. From experience, a 2 year post season ban is devastating to the program, especially the kids. This years Juniors won't get the opportunity to participate in the playoffs again, ever. That's 1/2 of there HS career. That's the sad part of the situation. I understand CF has had several incidents and I'm not condoning that type of behavior. However, a 2 yr post season ban is devastating to the kids that had dreams of walking off the field in Murfreesboro with a state championship.

From the schedule shown here on CoachT, Coalfield has won 4 games this season.  I don't think anybody had any dreams of making it to Murfreesboro any time soon.

Go to the TSSAA Handbook here: http://www.tssaa.org/Handbook/handbook.pdf. It is a pdf so you can search for the word transfer, and keep hitting next until you find all the sections that apply.

I'm sure this has been discussed somewhere in the previous pages (I'm too lazy to look through them), but why isn't Tennessee interested in Mobley? He's heads above another Knoxville player that Tennessee offered, and that other midget back the Vols offered. Borque won't be a quality running back at Tennessee (if he even comes). I think Mobley is better than anyone presently on Tennessee's roster. It just doesn't make sence what's going on at UT and it's upsetting to many of us Vol fans.

I guess UT sees the same thing that Scout.com sees. They rank the running backs through 198th nationally, and he is below that in the 2 star, non-rated category.

 

As for the Vanderbilt offer, they are offering everybody. I heard on the radio the other day where they had made somewhere around 300 offers. I don't know how that compares to other schools, but they seemed to indicate that was an insane number of offers to fill 25 slots.

I can say as a UT season ticket holder I would take James Franklin in a heart beat over what we have on the hill!!!! Living in Middle Tennessee and having the opportunity to talk with and listen to James Franklin speak on two occasions I can tell you that Vandy has hit a home run with him. He is a class act and if I am Dave Hart I would tell him to name his figure. You boys in Maryville have no clue what you are talking about, unfortunately Vandy is here to stay. I believe we were sitting home while they were in Memphis!

I'm sure that Vandy thought they found the answer many times over their 122 seasons of football. A new coach comes in, emphasis is placed on football and they win a few more games. Soon, reality returns and Vandy is right back where they were. Their lifetime SEC record is 124-380-17, and the last time they had consecutive .500 or above SEC seasons was 1948 and 1949. That is the definition of futility.

 

Vanderbilt is a team of student/athletes playing in a league full of NFL farm teams. A few seasons around .500 each decade will be all they can ever expect.

The fact is that Vanderbilt has been profiting from all the other SEC team's bowl trips. The SEC divides up the bowl money and distributes it to all teams. Vanderbilt has only played in 5 bowl games ever, so they have mostly been takers while contributing very little. I think the SEC keeps them around to raise the academic standings of the league.

 

They will never be competitive on a consistent basis in SEC football. The best they can hope for is to get to a bowl game once or twice a decade. They can get a few good players, but not enough to fill an 85-man roster. As the good starters get hurt throughout the season, an increasing number of non-SEC caliber players fill those slots.

 

It is good that Vanderbilt is getting some top in-state recruits, but most years that means there are 30 players across the nation that are better at each position, and they are going to 6 or 7 of the other SEC schools. I'm not hating; it is just reality.

 

The worst thing that happens is he loses several football games in nice venues (not Vandy), and comes out with a $250,000 education for free. Not a bad gig.