DifferentPerspective

By saying someone "posts like morons" isn't exactly calling someone a moron now is it????? You are just using a comparison when applying the word "moron" in that text. Again GENIUS.....learn some common sense before challenging me /thumb[1].gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumb:" border="0" alt="thumb[1].gif" />

QUOTE (BDPMOM @ Sep 30 2008 - 05:13 PM)you are not getting the point, 1A football is just as hard for that size of school when they play each other as is 3A when we play each other,calling programs garbage

just because they are in a certain classification shows your lack of respect for each individual program and how imature you must be.

Your name calling is ridiculous. Since the CoachT Mods won't step up and stop you moron I guess it is now my time to do something about it.

READ THE POSTINGS BEFORE REPLYING WITH RETARDED STATEMENTS MORON

Ok....I just couldn't resist answering the real GENIUS on this site. Above, it very clearly shows name calling that is NOT simply making a comparison...while at the same time, BDPMOM is exclaiming only what you "must be", not what you "are." Good job....GENIUS!!! /thumb[1].gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumb:" border="0" alt="thumb[1].gif" />

Coaches are not perfect...and have bad days. I personally know Coach is a good man and works his tail off for that team! Everything he does is to try and make "the boys" of yours successful. Maybe some of the kids need to work as hard as he does...and care as much as he does!!!

There are issues at Central beyond his control...like dealing with a not so cooperative administration to start with...and it goes down hill from there. I know he is going to get it turned around...and do good things with that team! I'm new to this area and don't know all the history...but I think winning games has been an issue at Central since before he took over. There seems to be issues all throughout the county schools in football...sounds more like a systemic issue to me.

Go Indians!

So back to my original point: this is an embarrassment to the school by still not having a coach. The administration needs some help.

Now, this is a point I do agree with...but only to a point.

No matter how much I believe that academics come first...taking care of academics and finding a coach can be mutually exclusive. The head coach does not have to be a teacher. There is one other school in the county whose head coach is not a teacher.

But, this is where I cut them some slack. The current principal just got the job in either January or February...and I can only imagine what it must be like to take over that job in the middle of a school year and have to find a new football coach. Not a very easy task. That said, I know they are taking it serious and are trying to get highly qualified coaches in to replace many of the previous ones. But, as several have stated on here, they keep getting turned down.

So, we can debate the why's of that all day long. But, I do believe the new administration is working diligently to find a highly qualified person. And, it would be better to find the right person too late than to find the wrong person just to fit a timeline. Many teams in the NFL (and other leagues) suffer for a long time because of short-sighted decision making.

It does appear that the overall coaching atmosphere in Clarksville/Montgomery County Schools is not one that many of the good coaches desire or they would be coming in. I don't think this is just a Northeast problem.

differentperspective,

 

Before you go and attack me thinking I'm a distraught PE teacher, stop in your tracks Bubba. I had a PE teacher roll out the balls making us play indoor soccer, basketball, pickle ball, volleyball softball and flag football. AND we had a tournament in each and every sport.

 

I also had a teacher in an academic subject that never taught from a book and passed out copied page after page of work. I never saw him grade a single paper except when he did the Gateway or a final exam.

 

A good teacher can be found in a Physical Science class or in a Physical Education. In anatomy I was taught about the anal canal. Here is what I learned...everyone has one and they all stink to high heavens...just like you opinion.

 

I am a graduate from UT with a major in HISTORY. But I do not want to teach...I want a job that will pay me what I'm worth and I don't have to listen to whiny-assed parents like you!!! I am waiting on being accepted to law enforcement, AKA the FBI.

Ooooooooooooooh...the FBI...I am highly impressed. /dry.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" I have a degree in Mechanical Engineering. But, I am just a lowly teacher and coach (much sarcasm) who will never be paid what they are worth (no sarcasm). I am not in this for the money and I accept that as part of the job...along with the whiny-toeed parents.

I can tell you graduated from UT...you lack reading comprehension. As I said earlier, my oldest son was a two-year starter and my other son probably will be. They are excellent athletes and the coaches don't hear a word from me except, "How can I help?" However, their performance in the classroom better be just as good if not better than on the field of play. They are not going to end up in the NFL. But, football does teach excellent life lessons you cannot get in the classroom.

There are plenty of bad teachers out there. We all know that. I have worked with many. And, I know very well that some PE teachers do an AWESOME job and actually teach. However, anyone with a normal college reading comprehension level would see what I am saying. If you have a classroom teacher who does their job correctly and a PE teacher who does their job correctly, the PE teacher will have much more time left over to attend to coaching duties.

You tell that to the families in America that have had someone die from an obesity related death. The National Institutes for Health estimates that obesity directly accounts for 15-20% of the deaths in the United States.

 

So in other words what you are saying is it's worth sacrificing your own health (which could lead to death) to get a classroom education. This is not to downplay the classroom education but I hate to tell you but you could be dumb as a door nail and live to be 80 years old, however if you live a very unhealthy lifestyle associated with obesity you may not live to be half of that. Good point though /thumb[1].gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":thumb:" border="0" alt="thumb[1].gif" />

Here we go again...another PE teacher not getting the attention/recognition they need.

First, you and wiseguy are missing the point. I am not arguing the importance of obesity education or any other part of physical education. I am saying that job does not require anywhere near the time outside of normal school hours that is required of a regular classroom teacher to do their job properly.

Of course obesity is a critical problem. I know all too well about obesity because it runs in my family. However, a lot of those problems are poor decision making...not being uneducated about the facts of obesity. That is why I brought up the human nature component of my argument. Your need to feel important about what you do is clouding your judgment as to where it fits in the "big picture".

I consider living healthy something that should be a matter of fact...like behaving properly in the classroom....you just do it. Better yet, if you want to talk about important health issues, let's make sex education its own semester long course. How about a seperate course for drinking and drugs. You can be highly educated, but die at a very young age by drinking and driving. These are all critical topics and need their due coverage. However, they do not merit the time or attention that the basic classroom does. So, you and wiseguy can get off your high horses and come back to reality and to your proper place in the "big picture".

I could run you in the ground on this argument for days, but don't feel like writing a dissertation on CoachT. The bottom line is that physical education does not place the demands on a coach like the regular classroom.

You must not get the point. So, you're saying that all of education is important except for physical education. So, a PE teacher can roll out the balls and take care of coaching stuff and not have to worry about being an EDUCATOR FIRST. After all, obesity amoung our youth is not a problem in this country. That is a great idea, I'm glad that you are smart enough to come up with a solution. Maybe you should pass it on to the administration. You should think about being a consultant of some sorts.

You are not a very "wise" guy, are you? Are you in education? Your post sounds like a statement from someone who is a PE teacher and doesn't feel like they get enough respect.

First, no matter how important physical education is...the regular classroom education ABSOLUTELY is more important than physical education. Second, the requirements for a PE teacher on a day-to-day basis pale in comparison to that of a classroom teacher. A PE teacher does not have to grade papers. A PE teacher doesn't have to worry about Gateway exams. A PE teacher does not have to differentiate lesson plans. I could go on and on. A high school PE teacher has an inordinate amount of time to properly educate his students and focus on coaching his/her sport as compared to a regular classroom teacher. So, yes, I stand strongly behind my solution...and most administrations follow it if they can find the qualified person for the reasons I stated above.

Now, on to the other point you brought up...obesity among our youth. Obesity in America is a problem that reaches far beyond teaching children about proper diet and exercise. It is a by-product of many factors such as technological advances, busier lives, instant everything, etc...not to mention genetics. These factors, and human nature, will continue to make obesity a problem that will not go away any time soon...no matter the education.

Before you get all defensive trying to defend PE teachers...I dare you to spend a year trying to teach a math, science, or history class PROPERLY!

Most of you have missed the point. NE does not exist to produce football players. It exists to educate those football players so that they have a future after high school when 99% of them are not playing football anymore. I strongly applaud the administration for not putting academics behind football. The comments that several of you are making on here reflect a part of our society that has their priorities out of order.

My son was a two-year starter on both sides of the ball and his head coach was the Physical Science teacher. He learned a ton about football, but not a single thing about Physical Science. My son loved the game, but his future was not on the field of play. If you are going to hire a football coach, he must be an educator first...coach second. The key would be to find a head coach who could be certified in physical education. If not, the coach must put the same amount of time in his classroom that he puts into his team.

Kudos to whomever is out there helping those young men. They are all learning a very important life lesson ... that you don't quit because everything isn't just peachy-keen. You commit yourself to something and follow through...in the bad times as well as the good. You make the most out of a bad situation. Bonding together when no one gives you a chance. I could go on and on. You get the point!