JDHoss
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9 hours ago, ysoangry said:
Yes, I live in Vero but work in Ft Pierce. I've been away from TN for the past 8 years. This is actually the first year I haven't been to a Vero game since I moved here. Might go Friday night, most nights I listen to it on the radio so I can switch stations to the West TN games. Florida football is a little different than West TN football. lol
Wow, small world. We retired and moved here 4 years ago from Kingsport. Love living in The Fort. We'll usually see Vero play 2-3 times a season. It's the best atmosphere on the Treasure Coast, and we usually sit close to the old guy with the train horn. We wanted to go to the Muck Bowl this year, but Glades Central was just so bad and Pahokee drilled them as expected. Maybe it'll be more competitive next year.
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4 hours ago, ysoangry said:
I stand corrected, last week's bye was first round. They don't seem to be as good as teams from the last few years. Still pretty stout though.
Vero didn't have a bye. Last week was their open date. They are a little weak along the OL and don't have much of a running game this year. They do however have arguably the best receiving corps in the state in any classification, but when Aronson broke his hand against Martin Co 3 weeks ago, it killed the intermediate and downfield passing game. The backup can't throw much besides hitch passes and quick slants and unlike Aronson, is a little guy who doesn't give them anything with his feet. They do have a promising 9th grader in EJ White (6'3 190) who is crazy athletic, but very raw as a passer. He led them on their first TD drive last night with his running. Without Aronson though, they will struggle to get past Osceola or Treasure Coast, provided they beat Melbourne this coming Friday.
You live in the Vero area? We're in Fort Pierce, but take in games all across the region from Fort Lauderdale to Belle Glade to Cocoa, depending on where the best game is.
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1 hour ago, ysoangry said:
Heard you guys woke up yesterday with snow. Balmy 85 here!!!! On a good note, the Vero Beach Fighting Indians are going to round 3 in 8A Florida football. Stay warm Hog.
It's actually Round 2 after last night's game. Harmony gave them a better game than I thought they would. VB really needs to get Aronson back, but I guess he's finished for the year.
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The Toppers have a puncher's chance. This isn't your grandson's Murville team. Still, I'll go...
Murville 31
Toppers 14
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Pulling for Boone, but this game will probably have a running clock by the middle of the 3rd.
West 49
Boone 14
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Boone 17
Central 7
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3 hours ago, Red Rebels said:
So am I, Mairvul.
Ha! Murville is close to 10X bigger than the town I'm from.
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6 hours ago, BoosterClubPlayersSuck said:
1. They don't have DB's band. 2. it's a bit of a blue/LGBQT/woke/etc city 3. there's better things to do for adults than watch high school football on most Fridays. 4. we seem to be in a cultural shift. football is not as popular to kids anymore. basketball seems to be taking over most places. hockey in some others. even combat sports in places.
1: They don't have D-B's band. - No, but no one else I've seen does either. Sebastian River comes close, and they have nice crowds until the halftime show is over. Then it looks like a bomb threat was called in.
2: It's a bit of a blue/LGBTQ/woke/etc city. - Has nothing to do with it. My wife and I are "Libs". We've been to 17 games so far this year and lost two others we were going to because of thunderstorms. We'll finish the season with probably 21-22 games, which is about average for us.
3: There's better things to do for adults than watching high school football on Friday nights. - Absolutely. Unless you have a kid who is playing or in the band, thigh school football is strictly just another entertainment option. My wife and I are from small towns where football was a big thing, and we've always enjoyed going no matter who was playing. Very few people out there now who are like that now. Our biggest local school here is Treasure Coast with 3,068 students. They have a good football program that made the state semis in Class 8A last year. Unless they're playing crosstown rival Centennial, there's probably 500-700 people at their home games. There are just way too many other entertainment options for people these days.
4: Culture shift - I don't know about culture shift, but there are more options for kids and a lot of kids/parents are choosing to focus on one sport. It's uncommon to see any 2/3 sport athletes anymore unless it's a major sport combined with something like track.
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Disappointing end to the season and our grandson's final game but looking back at how badly they struggled at Robinson, I'd have never thought they'd win as many games as they have.
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These would be upsets on paper, but I could see...
Bearden over Dobyns-Bennett
Bradley Central over Science Hill
I think D-B and SHHS will both prevail, but there's no room for error for either of them.
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11 hours ago, blazer1set said:
True, I meant more that the trophy was being able to be in a playoff game vs. a physical trophy
I knew what you meant. The term "participation trophy" is just a buzz phrase used by people who don't agree with something like this. The 1st round sacrificial lambs don't see getting crushed after a lengthy bus ride as any type of reward, nor does the TSSAA have those games as any type of reward for those teams. It's a way of making more money for them. Nothing more.
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11 hours ago, blazer1set said:
Not saying you guys are this way, but we live in too much of a snowflake culture where everybody is a winner, everybody gets a participation trophy, etc. I just don't see it ever changing much unless there is a fundamental shift in our collective societal mindset. There is an insightful book called War on Football, not saying I agree with every premise but it does at the very least make you think. https://www.amazon.com/War-Football-Saving-Americas-Game/dp/1621571556
There are no "participation" trophies in this. It's set up the way it is for no other reason than the TSSAA's financial benefit, and it's not changing. The TSSAA doesn't care if North Greene or Johnson County get obliterated in round 1 and they don't get a participation trophy for being there.
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What's the over/under on attendance? 600 (players/coaching staffs/cheerleaders/band don't count)? I saw these teams play in the 1st round a few years ago and I'd bet money there weren't more than 300 people in the stands on a cold, rainy night.
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It's the same way in VA and down here in Florida. I assume it's like that in most states as the high school governing bodies cash in on it. I have no problem with them making money, but it really puts some of the smaller/poorer schools in a bind with the travel expenses.
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3 hours ago, WaCoJaCo said:
First you have to understand it's not really a "upset". DB ranked #3 in 6A was laughable. And I say that as a DB fan. I wouldn't even have them in the top 10. The coaching staffs at SH & DB are below average top to bottom. Science Hill takes this game much more seriously than DB does. It's their super bowl. They take their open date the week before this game so they can practice for two weeks, and their entire coaching staff can scout a DB game. How many teams do you see taking an open date before the last game of the season? Another thing to consider is DB has a long history of blowing games trying to run out the clock. You would think they would learn by now. But that's what you get with a "below average" coaching staff.
And I'll give Carter full credit for that. Region 1 is weak as dishwater and the championship is usually going to come down to D-B v SHHS. You have no reason NOT to treat that game as your Super Bowl.
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I had D-B winning at Johnson City but said the margin for error was small. It's even smaller this coming Friday. Being as it's at home....
Tribe 28
Bearden 21
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I'd be shocked if this game doesn't start the 2nd half with a running clock.
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Tribe 31
Toppers 20
Not much room for error here for D-B, and even less from here on out.
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13 hours ago, WaCoJaCo said:
A lot of history with these two teams. Most games are very competitive over the years and the series has been close to even all the way. I consider it a rivalry game. Averages says DB will have a "bunch of penalties". Against Greeneville they had only two. The rest its been about 10 a game. I think they had 9 tonight against WB. That included two personal fouls and a facemask. The score will be closer than 35-14. I say will be within 7 points either way. Oak Ridge has a good team.
* D-B has the better team.
* D-B won't/shouldn't overlook them. It's Senior Night, OR is a traditional "rival" and they should be focused.
Will it be closer? If D-B has a night where they have 70+ yards in penalties or 2+ turnovers, it will absolutely be closer and it's possible they could lose, but I don't think that's going to happen.
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Tribe 35
Cats 14
But D-B can't afford to play sloppy with a bunch of penalties
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22 minutes ago, GovForce1 said:
I'll tell you the problem. We've had to compete with other local schools for players for years, but now there's a new school in the mix in Eagleton. And Blount County Schools let our last coach take that job after running our program into the ground. The more I think about that the madder I get. So what was WB's solution out of this? Hire a guy who has never won anywhere. It almost makes sense if you're asleep and not thinking about it.
Here in town, Fort Pierce Westwood finished last season winless, and their coach resigned in the spring. They hired a guy who had been an assistant somewhere a few years ago. His job the last few years? He was an on-air personality for the local ESPN Radio affiliate in West Palm Beach. This year Westwood is 5-2 so far...
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On 10/11/2022 at 9:34 PM, WestHigh4Life said:
Is Cleveland out of it?
No, but for the purposes of the OP, they are out of it at this moment.
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On 10/9/2022 at 7:01 PM, blazer1set said:
I may have this totally messed up, if so please offer corrections
5A R1 vs. R2
Daniel Boone vs. Knox Halls
Morristown West vs. Sevier County
Tennessee High vs. Knox Central
David Crockett vs. Knox West5A R3 vs. R4
Powell vs. Howard
Karns vs. Rhea County
Oak Ridge vs. Walker Valley
Campbell County vs. McMinn County6A R1 vs. R2
Dobyns-Bennett vs. Maryville
Science Hill vs. Farragut
Jefferson County vs. Bradley Central
West Ridge vs. Bearden6A R3 vs. R4
Coffee County vs. Riverdale
Lebanon vs. Rockvale
Cookeville vs. Blackman
Shelbyville Central vs. Oakland
6A 1 v 2 is wrong. If the season ended today, Murville would be the 2 seed, only because they haven't played Bradley Central. Murville would own the tiebreaker with Far-gut and Bearden. The most likely scenario at the end of the season is that Murville will be the #1 seed and Bradley Central #4 with 2/3 being determined on the last night of the season as Bearden plays Far-Gut.
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Lots of PT for the reserves will keep the score from being ridiculous...
Tribe 49
Govs 13
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Cyunts Hil comin' two 825
in Class 5A & Class 6A
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Unless you have a kid playing on the team, in the band or a cheerleader, high school football is just another entertainment option competing with lots of other entertainment options. Smaller towns will typically do better because there are fewer entertainment options and its a typically tighter community. We have the same problem here in south Florida. The largest local school is Treasure Coast with an enrollment of over 3200, and most of their home crowds are in the 500-700 range, and they have a really good program. Vero Beach has some nice crowds depending on the opponent, but that's about it.