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???The supreme quality for leadership is unquestionably integrity. Without it, no real success is possible, no matter whether it is on a section gang, a football field, in an army, or in an office.??? -Dwight D. Eisenhower

Darden was a good leader, a good coach, and a good man. He will be sorely missed.

Coach D,

Thank you for your work, but most of all thank you for your example.

CAK by 28

CAK by 3+ TD'

Thanks for the thorough recap Hsfootball54. I would really appreciate an update on Wes's arm whenever you hear anything.

Just a reminder of how CAK folks rebuked me when I said Powell would have a long season because CAK beat them in the jamboree.

I told you CAK was not a top level team!

You greatly underestimate CAK. I'll compare them to Webb i guess, anyway Webb played tough out of region opponents LIKE POWELL (beat them both times not on their "off years") and did very well including knocking off Knox West twice. CAK is just as good as Webb has been if not better. They beat many upper division teams in scrimages this summer including Bearden. I think CAK could easily compete with 3-4A teams not necessarily make playoffs every year but definitely be in the Powell Halls range of the region this year. Just wait until the 28th of Sept. when CAK plays Webb to see what I mean.

CAK folks? or have you learned your lesson? being humble works best!

Thanks for the laugh. Seems a bit hypocritical that the whole point of your post is to say "I told you so!" when your punch line is "being humble works best!" And by the way, Maj was making the same point. To agree with him or her is to make yourself look foolish.

Can anyone give me a recap? Hard to believe there is no thread for this game.

Joseph Bennett-CAK

QUOTE(CYJacket @ Jun 11 2007 - 09:23 AM) 826473736[/snapback]Coachlogan has on numerous occasions indicated that he is a CAK supporter. He has defended CAK as much as I have defended Coalfield. As far as the clock comment, while it is history; history is always relevant. Those that refuse to study and remember history are doomed to repeat it. That issue is brought up each time Logan posts a sarcastic remark regarding Coalfied because of his earlier defense of that situation his being very vocal about the problem not being CAK's. That situation rest squarely on CAK.

 

I see it to still gets under your skin. Conscience?

I will agree that more often than not it is appropriate to put coachlogan in his place. However, the reference to the clock-keeper does not solve this cause, it only belittles an extremely competitive and hard-fought game played by worthy opponents. If looked back upon, this game should be viewed for what it really was.

I was a member of the first 5 years of CAK football. I was involved in this game that was "decided by the clock-keeper." The clock-keeper didn't botch coalfield's PAT. The clock-keeper didn't force a Coalfield player to hit Cunningham late on the 3rd to last play of the game. The clock-keeper ALSO did not come in cold off the bench as a freshman QB and drive coalfield to its final score, nor did the clock keeper leap over 2 CAK defenders to make one of the best high school catches I have ever seen to score Coalfield's final touchdown.

This game was not settled in the pressbox, it was settled on the field between two teams that fought their guts out all night. Is it possible that the clock-keeper stopped too early? Sure. Is it also possible that the clock-keeper stopped too late? Sure. Saying one way or the other as though it was matter-of-fact is wrong, especially four years later when this game should be remembered for what it was, and not for what it could have or "should" have been. I look back on this game as I do any other, another night that I was lucky enough to play a tough football game against a worthy opponent. We could argue all day about the clock-keeper...where he was standing, who he was, and if he indeed stopped at the right time. My hope is that we can move on past this understandable controversy(any time a game is decided by this amount of time a similar controversy will exist) and if this game is discussed, it will be in a manner appropriate for the amount of heart displayed by both teams.

A side note: I respect your die-hard support for the Yellowjackets, even though I sometimes disagree with you, and good luck to you in the upcoming season.

QUOTE(CYJacket @ Jun 9 2007 - 02:23 PM) 826473265[/snapback]Let's see, that game was scheduled because no others nearby in 1a would play and Coack K. and Coach Satterfield are close friends. The contract was signed when Coach S. was still there after the play off game last year. Now, here is the kicker, it seems that Grace moved up pretty quickly from J.V. to a playoff team. Hmmmmm? If their program grows they will also be moved up with CAK to 2a with the multiplier. That will happen when this redistricting of public schools in Knox Co. settles.

 

Not a problem this year, with me. I don't make the schedule. I just hope the clock keeper up there next year is on the field where he should be.

 

What's the problem from your end coach? Grace taking from your folks recruiting area?

Coachlogan is not now, nor has he ever been a CAK coach. CY, Seems a little petty that you are still whining about the clock-keeper, that was in the year 2003...close to four full years ago. Life goes on, and surely as an adult, you have better things to do with your time than dwell on, make excuses for, and argue about a 1-A high school football game from four years ago that you did not even participate in.

QUOTE(bruinsoccer @ May 27 2007 - 11:42 PM) 826468258[/snapback]Let me get this straight...

 

A/AA schools have low enrollment, so they don't get to choose from a very big pool. They are fortunate if they have a few good players in their zones, since they don't have the enrollment of AAA schools. You can only go to these schools if you live in their small school zone. Thus, the creation of A/AA in order to level the playing field due to size differences in public schools.

 

However, if a good player, wherever he/she may live, wants to attend one of the private schools, they can. Get one or two of these players and automatically you are one of the best A/AA teams in the state as long as you don't give financial aid?

 

If a pretty good player lived in an A/AA zone, and could afford to attend a private school, why stay in your zoned school if you could challenge for a championship by going private?

I think this is covered in the public/private forum.

QUOTE(unit11 @ May 25 2007 - 02:08 PM) 826466985[/snapback]it really doenst matter what happens in this game...everyone knows hume fogg apparently does not deserve to be in the finals and CAK is god. all of you are ridiculous. give some public school soccer stars some well deserved credit for working their buts off all season and in this tournement and showing why they do deserve to be in the state championship. It makes me sick that respect cant be given where it is deserved.

I agree with Reaction. I haven't seen where anyone has not given HF credit. Just because most are picking back to back to back to back champions to win again doesn't mean that anyone is saying that HF doesn't deserve to be there. Relax

QUOTE(stamfordbridgesoccer @ May 25 2007 - 01:31 PM) 826466951[/snapback]Uniden -

 

I am not typing out of ignorance. I am very well informed on the subject, contrary to what you might think.

 

But I did just go back and looked at my statement. Apologies, I did not mean to narrow my point to "the Baylor's and McCallie's of the SOCCER world". Sorry about that. I was meaning to refer to sports in general, across the board, as I have heard multiple coaches in muliple sports make such a statement. One such coach was a soccer coach.

 

Been so used to typing about soccer the last several days on this thing that I did not realize I was thinking one thing but typing another.

 

I know it can be frustrating reading things that are clearly typed from ignorance or conjecture. That is my point. Very few people have actually had first-hand experiene with the TSSAA issue. I don't know how old you are (if you are player, parent, or a coach), but I am old enough to remember and long for the days when we had ONE state champion. And I suppose that is ultimately what I am getting at. The "let's please everyone" mentality that has overcome TSSAA over the last many, many years is rediculous. I do not like having many classifications with several "state champions". But this is the system we have.

 

Imagine taking all of these teams that made the state semi-finals and seeing them in one tournament for one state champion!

While I understand your point, it is easy to see why we are forced to have classifications. Simply put, small schools do not have access to the talent pool of large schools. The case is similar with schools able to give financial aid to athletes vs. unable. This is reality. Maybe back in your time all the schools were close enough in size that a one division one class state tournament was a viable option, but, as of now, it is not. The TSSAA is doing their best to find the correct balance between the two extremes. I agree that making too many classifications because schools or administrations or parents are complaing that something isn't "fair" is wrong, but at the same time there are very legitimate reasons why we operate on the class and division system. While it is unlikely that EVERYONE or even a strong majority will agree on what is/is not fair, I would consider TSSAA's current system to be fairly balanced/fair.

QUOTE(asian invasion @ May 24 2007 - 04:20 PM) 826466159[/snapback]OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BOOOOOOOOOOOOYYYYYYY!!!!! another hater....i guess we'll just have to try and shut him up tonight......looking forward to it

Great quote in the paper today Tarr, I laughed outloud when I read it.

QUOTE(brick25 @ May 25 2007 - 12:24 AM) 826466605[/snapback]Cak will win again and thus demonstrating that a/aa is the biggest joke ever im sorry but when ur championship consist of 3 teams who are not even ranked in the top 20 , nothing against cak but they have not proved anything new because after 5 times its clear to see that they can dominate very low skilled oppents. I would like to see cak and catholic go back into d2 or make a new division. Good luck to cak even though they probably dont need it and big g before u get back on and say that hume fogg and a/aa is great ... really think about it deep down u know that this is a joke

I agree with Asianinvasion, this sort of post does not belong in this thread, not to mention that CAK was never in D2.

QUOTE(stamfordbridgesoccer @ May 25 2007 - 07:04 AM) 826466687[/snapback]I do not want to stir up trouble, but I would not mind someone starting another thread explaining how and why CAK, Catholic, and Notre Dame left D2 soccer. I got out of the TN soccer loop when my family moved but am now back in state and back involved.

 

I have already heard from a Notre Dame assistant on this issue. His comments were noteworthy, but I will not share them hear as it is not on topic.

 

I am just hoping for a good match. I go with CAK 2-0

I may be wrong on both counts, but first, I think that this topic will be covered in the Private/Public forum. Second, I don't think that CAK was ever a D2 school. I'm gonna say CAK 3-1

QUOTE(warstiner @ May 24 2007 - 03:14 PM) 826466123[/snapback]No

CCS vs CAK will not be the best game in the tournament. CCS vs Notre Dame for the final will be. I am not saying that CCS will trounce CAK but they should win by 1-0 or 2-1.

1. CAK barely sealed thier win aganist CPA last night.

2. CAK is not as match fit as CCS. CCS can go the distance 110 min is no problem

3. CCS has the best game coach a team want.

4. CPA nor CAK played to the level of competition that CCS has faced during the tournament thus far.

5. CCS has a deep bench and that comes in very handy when playing three games in 5 days.

6. The goal keeper of CCS has the advantage in pk's and controling his box

7. 2 of CPA's most potent scoring threats are hobbled by injuries.

8. CAK didnt play like a chapiomship team last night. I didnt see any heart from the players and the fans are to assuming of a W as well.

9. CCS plays with the passion and heart that it takes to get to the finals.

You cant live in the past and believe that you are going to take home the trophy just because of history. CCS is playing for tomarrow and the next game and the next season as well.

This is one of those ignorant posts that begins an onslaught of mud-slinging that will taint this entire thread. Please do not respond to it, this poster knows nothing about CAK soccer. The fact that he is willing to cite specific and yet incorrect attributes of CAK shows that arguing with him will do no good, this poster does not seek the truth...he seeks whatever fiction he can create to portray his team as the favorite. Goodluck to CAK and CCS tonight

QUOTE(paytreeyet @ May 24 2007 - 10:47 AM) 826465931[/snapback]centaurs are greek mythological creatures that are half man and half horse. probably not good at playing soccer , so i assume that the comment was a sarcastic insult to ccs. sure ccs can compete with the top teams, but i believe there is a place where playing with a lot of heart will not be enough. the reigning state champs will equally have a lot of heart, but with this intense desire to defend their title, a lot of skill. cak will destroy the demon beasts known as centaurs (a.k.a. ccs) and send them to the pits of hades

Centaurs were some of the fastest, most agile, and most versatile fighters in all of Greek mythology. Based off of this I would assume that they would school a team comprised of humans. It was simply an expression that represented how well CAK is playing right now. There was no sarcasm or hate toward CCS

My boys from Hume-Fogg will win this one 2-1

I'm not convinced that a team made entirely of centaurs could defeat the warriors at this point. CAK 3-1

After hearing what went down last night between the two teams I am forced to change my prediction. CPA-2 CAK-1

As unfortunate as it is for me to say this, the show of good sportsmanship by both teams may have cost CAK their playoff run. In any conflict or competition, whether for sport or something else, certain specific factors play into the victory of one side or the other. In the case of CAK vs. CPA the most important factors for victory or defeat are coaching, talent, physical athleticism, and, the most crucial, mindset. History shows us time and time again of teams that are outmatched physically, numerically, or technologically that overcome these areas of weakness with a strong and unrelenting mindset. Prime examples of this are the U.S. Hockey victory over Russia at Lake Placid in 1980, the Russian survival and eventual victory at Stalingrad during WWII, and the Battle of the Alamo. Granted this is high school soccer and not war, the same principle applies.

The CAK war-machine has won the A/AA state championship the last 4 years. CAK is not seen as a team of destiny, or a Cinderella story, but as an unstoppable stampede of brute soccer force and dominance that seems heck bent on a 5-peat. Being from different regions of the state, CPA has seen little of the CAK players or team in general. Both teams were gripped with a feeling of uncertainty and possible fear of their opponent, with the play and championships of the CAK team the last 5 years giving this mental edge to the warriors. Prior to this dinner the CPA players had heard the hype, done their research, and understood that they were going up against what can best be described as a soccer juggernaut. CAK was not seen as a group of mere high school men, but as a cohesive force of speed, talent, and perfection.

This dinner gathering humanized a formerly machine-like organism, removing these crucial conceptions from the minds of the CPA players. The CPA players may have before been hesitant to make tough passes, or engage one of the well oiled parts of the CAK pain-train because of this mindset of inferiority. They now see the CAK team as a group of young men, not so unlike themselves, that can be beaten. They no longer see CAK as an eloquent and yet powerfully unstoppable drove of mother buffalo, but as a group of highschool men with attributes of both strength and weakness. When a team loses its mental edge, regardless of the source of or motivations that drive this loss, the road ahead becomes far more difficult, and formerly easy wins become tough losses. I respect the show of sportsmanship by both teams, but in a situation involving two distant teams in the state tournament I think the opponent dinner parties are better left to the cheerleaders(yes, I know that soccer doesn't have any).

What type of food was served last night?

I've heard rumors of a revamped CAK plan of attack. No goalie or defense...11 aggressive wildmen in what can best be described as a blitzkrieg offense. With CAK's speed and talent I can't see them scoring less than 10 goals with this new strategy.

CAK by 15

Any word on how Strickland is doing with his new boys in spring practice?

Cak by a couple