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Really wanst a shocking upset that Mercy won state this year. They were the best team all year going 4-0 against Sacred heart and 2-1 over Assumption. That Assumption loss was their only loss all year and they play in a couple bigtime national tournaments too. The biggest surprise probably was Assumption getting knocked out before state by Sacred Heart in the regional championships. Sacred Heart did go 2-2 against Assumption losing once in the district championship, but both teams advanced to regionals where they knocked Assumption by winning regions. Still think it's a sad thing that every year one of those great teams gets left out of state. Those three year after year are light years better than everybody else. Our state is so predictible, even three years removed from having a child playing I was still able to predict the outcome of every single match in the sweet 16. Wish I could do that in the NCAA basketball pool. I would be rich! /roflol.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":roflol:" border="0" alt="roflol.gif" />

Back to Independence though. I never saw them play even once, but when i heard three years ago they had three girls from that school on that 15's team that one club nationals I figured they would get at least one state championship. I made that post here then. Looks like i was right even though it didnt take a rocket scientist to make that prediction.

Hey TN. Havent posted on here in a couple years.

Just thought i would check to see who won the state tournament in AAA because a couple years ago i predicted Independence would win a state championship because they had three girls on their team that won a national championship in the 15 age group during club season. I have no idea if those three girls are still on the independence team or not, but i suspect they are. Seems like two of them were twins. I think i said Independence would win one or two championships while those girls were there but i have no idea if they are juniors or seniors now.

Here in KY we had a new state champion. Mercy won over Sacred Heart. The Assumption run is over.

Didn't see the match, but i trust that particular line judges judgement. Seen him do several matches here in lexington over the years and think he does a very good job. Doubt very seriously he made a call he knew was wrong. Not saying he didnt make a mistake, but i seriously doubt he cheated to benefit his team.

Best teams in your state are all from the same area. Dont care how your rank them, but the AAA champ will be Brentwood, Independence, Centennial, Independence, Ravenwood, or Franklin. All these teams are probably top 10 teams in terms of talent. I think the AAA championship will be the top two teams that come out of this district. Could be any one of these.

I'll say this about DB and TN High, they both beat Lafayette(KY) in three close games. This tells me they simply are not strong enough to make a run at a AAA state title and certainly are not top 10 teams. Lafayette simply is not that strong this year and played those matches without their best MB that was lost to a knee injury. In fact Lafayette is currently ranked 4th in their own district out of 4 teams so the fact they made the championship match in that Science Hill tournament tells me DB, Sience Hill and TN High are not legit top 10 teams. Just an opinion though.

My guess is Greenbrier, AC and Knox Cath are the best teams in AA/A but other than perhaps Greenbrier, i'd say no A/AA team are top 10 teams. State champ will come from one of those three teams though in my opinion. My pick would be Greenbrier over AC for the title.

Update on Georgetown College (Whitney Wulf) they are now ranked #13 in NAIA: http://naia.cstv.com/sports/w-volley/spec-rel/091207aaa.html

 

After loosing their first match of the year, they have reeled off 12 straight, only losing 3 games total in that stretch. They have played several other ranked teams as well. We get to go see them play this wekend, for the first time.

I got to see your daughters team last night at Georgetown. I assumed you were not there on a weekday. They are a very good team as usual. Lindsey Wilson played them close in games two and three losing 18-30, 26-30, 26-30 but Georgetown is definately the superior team. I guess I was a little dissappointed the Georgetown coach didn't play your daughter or any other sub in this match. Kyla played in maybe three points in game three, but other than that he never changed the lineup. I suspect there was a little coaching rivalry between the Georgetown coach and new LW coach. The Georgetown coach is a MAVA coach and the LW coach is a long time KIVA coach.

Dunbar is a solid team and they won the tournament championship. What more needs to be said. Wins and losses will come and go. I just hate to see the looks on the girls faces when they are playing their hearts out in a close game and a very young line judge makes a horrible call and the official in the chair looks totally rattled throughout most of the match. I can??™t say AC would have or should have won, but it certainly leaves a bad taste in your mouth.

 

KY you can??™t base your opinion of AC on the consolation game. Many of our starters sat out and there were actually several freshmen on the floor. With that being said, I also want to comment on the ???weak??? teams in this tournament. I agree with that KY??™s assessment. In the long run, it will become a ???B??? tournament if the host does not recruit more solid teams. It may be a great moneymaker, but eventually better teams will pull out and that is all it will be is a moneymaker.

Well said.

As to the Lafayette tournament being a B tournament, it always has been. Never has been more than 3-4 teams in it capable of winning it. However, one teams B tournament is another teams A tournament if your team is a weak to average team just wanting to compete. I'm sure it's a great tournament for those other teams that win silver or bronze, so it has value.

As long as this tournament falls on the same weekend as the LIT it will always be this way. I know I had hoped that Lafayette could have entered the LIT the last three years when they were capable of winning silver there. They could not have defeated Assumption, Sacred Heart or Mercy to win gold, but they definately could have won silver, which would have been far better competition than than the Lafayette tournament.

Well...if those were your younger players i saw then the future is bright for AC. Good luck the rest of the year!

The last ghost comment is not worth responding to.

When college coaches tell you the officiating was worst than the majority of the teams in the tournament then you might want to wonder, it happened to me.

 

Losing is not the issue to me, we've lost our share, and we handle business and moved on, but officials letting coaches put a 12 or 13 year old child on the lines in that type of game (Dunbar and AC), that my friend should tell you something, you should never put a child in a situation like that. The child was in a NO WIN situation no matter who won. Officials and coaches that let that kind of thing happen, I have to question.

 

Oh, I forgot Kydigs you said you didn't see our match so your making statements about something you know nothing about nor did you see, I guess your assuming (be careful you know what assume does) AC fans were complaining because they lost. I didn't think the officials were any better in games AC won and probably worse in some.

 

Now for the Dunbar team, they have a really nice team #'s 12, 1 and 9 are for real. They defend well, pass well, and are well coached. They seem to be solid all the way around. I feel though if AC and Dunbar played 10 times they might just split.

 

I don't have to go back, my daughter is a senior and it is time for:

 

"GOLF - OLD FOLKS STYLE."

I've seen enough of the officials around here to know there were most likely mistakes made. Best ones are in louisville at the LIT. I couldn't believe some of the calls and no calls I saw in the Lafayette/Dunbar match, but I guess I'm just used to it. My point is that it seems every year an AC person makes an excuse as to why their team lost our tournament, whether it be to Lafayette, or in this case Dunbar. This not a slam on your team. I thought they looked good, but they lost in two games to what definately looked like a better team to me.

Good luck to your girls the rest of the season.

Anyone see this match? Dunbar is now 17-1 and best in Lexington at this point in the season.

They beat Lafayette in the finals 25-11, 28-26. I think the Anderson match was 25-21, 25-22.

I didn't see that match, but I did see several minutes of AC's consolation match and the entire Lafayette/Dunbar championship match. To my eye the best team in the tournament won. Dunbar was definately the best team there.

Also, this tournament was a VERY weak 24 team field. Dunbar, Lafayette and AC were easily the best teams in the tournament. Everybody else a couple notches below in talent. Because the LIT in Louisville is the same weekend every year with almost all the top state teams, this tournament is always Lafayettes weakest, but is a HUGE money maker for the program.

My opinion on AC was that this was the very best ball control AC team I have seen yet. However, they were not as good as Dunbar. Neither was Lafayette. Just once I'd like to see an AC supporter give a lexington team credit for beating them in this tournament. Seems there is always an excuse as to why they lost. My guess is that there were probably some bad calls in this match, but i seriously doubt they caused AC to lose both games.

The scores you report are correct for the match according to KHSAA.

KYD, I understand the basis of your prediction (considering past posts) and therefore I think it makes sense. But something to consider, most all of the girls in that District play club ball.

 

On another note, on the GC schedule, I saw were they have a couple of big matches, one on 9/18 and another on 10/23. Unfortunately, with those occuring in the middle of the week and considering the drive time, I won't probably be there. Good luck this season!

Last year Knox Cath was a fairly easy prediction to at least make it well into the tournament because of the lack of club players in A/AA. You are right though. In AAA, all the the great teams are loaded with talent, especially in that district. Just thought it would be fun to pick somebody other than Brentwood and see how it plays out.

Just found out today that the LW coach is leaving to coach at Southern IL. LW also lost a couple key players from last years team that will hurt them. Dont see them competiting with GC very well this year like last year, but you never know. Hopefully we will meet at some point this season. My guess is you will show up for the conference tournament at the end of the year in louisville.

I heard my daughters friend Kyla from Lafayette is rooming with your daughter this year at GC. She's a nice young lady.

Just thought I would go out on a limb like last year and make an early prediction for a state champion. My pick for AAA this year is "Independence". Pretty bold pick i think considering they have to get past Franklin and Brentwood just to get out of district. My reason is based on the fact that three girls on this team played for a national championship club team at the 15's age level. These three girls should be juniors this year if I'm figuring it right. My guess is this team has a very good supporting cast that are club players also. As long as I'm making long shot predictions i'll go out even further and say Independence will win it next year also. Dont really care one way or another, just want to pop in at the end of the year and see how close i was.

I wont be on here much at all this year as Lafayette does not play in TN. Good luck to all your favorite teams!

Just an update on the team I follow Lafayette that won the TOC here. Lafayette closed the season today by advancing to the state final 4. They fell short of the finals by losing to a talented St Henry team 21-25, 18-25. St Henry lost to Assumption in the finals, but did take a game from them. Just an unbelievable season though for our girls. They finished 42-3 winning six tournaments, a runnerup in the top public tournament in louisville, and a state final four. Most successful season by a Lexington team ever.

It's been fun posting here this year. This has become a fairly large thread. Never really expected that. Hope all have a great offseason!

It's WAY more fun predicting here! Our state tournament is just so easy to predict who will win which matches. Here is a link to our sweet 16. Bet I get every game correct, but perhaps a couple first round games that are toss ups among teams so bad it's difficult to figure out. I'll give it a shot with my best guess and label those with *. Very doubtful I miss any of the rest, but I sure hope I'm wrong about the Lafayette/St Henry match in the final four. That one could actually be close as St Henry was the weakest of the privates this year, but upset our Notre Dame in regions.

 

http://scoreboard.12dt.com/scoreboard/khsa...ournament_67200

 

Final 8

 

Christian Fellowship*

Greenwood

Mercy

Assumption

Letcher Central*

Lafayette

St Henry

Central Hardin

 

Final 4

 

Greenwood

Assumption

Lafayette

St Henry

 

Finals

 

Assumption

St Henry

Champions: Assumption

It's actually kind of sad that the KY state tournament is so predictable that I was able to pick the winner of EVERY match. I'm pretty good at handicapping and picking winners, but I'm really not THAT smart. It's just obvious who has a chance and who doesn't by the vast difference in talent in the regions. There were a couple shocking scores though. Assumption did win, but managed to lose a game to Mercy and St Henry. They hadn't dropped a game to a KY team in three years.

It's WAY more fun predicting here! Our state tournament is just so easy to predict who will win which matches. Here is a link to our sweet 16. Bet I get every game correct, but perhaps a couple first round games that are toss ups among teams so bad it's difficult to figure out. I'll give it a shot with my best guess and label those with *. Very doubtful I miss any of the rest, but I sure hope I'm wrong about the Lafayette/St Henry match in the final four. That one could actually be close as St Henry was the weakest of the privates this year, but upset our Notre Dame in regions.

 

http://scoreboard.12dt.com/scoreboard/khsa...ournament_67200

 

Final 8

 

Christian Fellowship*

Greenwood

Mercy

Assumption

Letcher Central*

Lafayette

St Henry

Central Hardin

 

Final 4

 

Greenwood

Assumption

Lafayette

St Henry

 

Finals

 

Assumption

St Henry

Champions: Assumption

Got the first 8 right. The only other one even in question is the Greenwood/Christian fellowship match to make the final four. The rest are locks. Still think I get every single game right in KY. Our tournament is such a joke. I laugh everytime I read complaining here about the TN format. Trust me! It's not that bad!

I didn't do too bad in TN. Got Brentwood and Father Ryan right and came up just short with my AA/A KC pick. The first two were simple enough even a "Cave Man could do it", but A/AA wasn't as easy.

Congrats to ND on winning A/AA! I dont feel too dissapointed that my July 28th prediction KC came up just short 14-16 in game five. Certainly could have gone either way. Clearly KC and ND were easily the two best teams in A/AA and both proved it in that epic championship match. I think KC still illustrated my point on the importance of year round volleyball compared to teams that dont have it. ND may not have had quite as many, but the three club players they had were obviously REAL good, as I'm sure were the rest of their team.

It's been fun predicting games here. Wish I had got this one right, but I did get the other two champions right. They were easy though.

Oh well...I blew the Franklin pick over Sullivan South. Still have all three of my picks in the finals in Brentwood, Father Ryan, and Knox Cath. Feel pretty good about two of them.

Congrats to both Knox Catholic and Notre Dame for making the finals! Big congrats to both AC and Greenbrier on making the final four. AC gave ND a little scare at 24-26, 25-17, 25-16, 25-20 and exceeded my expectations by one game by making the final four.

Should be a very good final.

It is funny to me that middle TN gives last years state champions no recognition.

 

the Bracket will be Franklin -Riverdale, Collierville-Farragut,

siegel-Hendersonville, Houston-Bearden

Then Franklin-Collierville, Hendersonville-Bearden

then collierville-Bearden

Collierville on pks for win 2 years in a row.

OK...that is TOO funny. Dude...you have wondered into the volleyball forum. You're obviously talking about soccer unless penalty kicks have been added to volleyball matches. Could be kind of cool.

It is funny to me that middle TN gives last years state champions no recognition.

It's even funnier to me that you dont know that Germantown won AAA last year over Sullivan South. Even I know that and I'm not from TN. Tough to get recognition if you're not in the field.

How soon we forget. Notre Dame sounds like the Cinderella Team that just got an invitation to the big dance. Congrats to those girls in the other Irish uniform.

In my defense, it turns out that ND has three veteran club players and not two. One played in Atlanta and I didn't realize that. Also, I didn't know ND was even A/AA because who can figure out just why some privates are Div II and some are A/AA. Hard to know who gives money and who doesn't based on the catholic names. However, even if I had known all this info about ND, I'm fairly certain I still would have picked KC, so i'll give no excuses if I turn out to be wrong. I made a pick before the season started. It's a lot easier now to know ND "probably" has the best team, but I still think KC has a great chance.

...OK KY... and how much money are you putting on the Tigers?

 

No really, I know what you mean, I just don't know what you mean.

I've just seen it happen soooooo many times over the years between teams that are somewhat equal, that the one that wins the first one comes in a little over confident for the second and loses. Not saying that is going to happen here. To be honest I think ND has the best team, but I'm too stubborn to back down from my original KC pick to admit it.

And NO, I wouldn't put a dime on this match, but I do think KC still has a decent chance against ND should both ot those teams reach the finals. Greenbrier is the team I cant get a handle on. The only reason I think they lose is the fact they went 5 games against AC which tells me there is very little difference in those two teams. I know what AC has because I've seen them, so my instincts tell me they dont have enough for KC because KC has owned AC over the last two years.

Of course we will now have a Greenbrier/AC final!

Congrats to AC for making the final 4! Probably the end of the road against ND, but a heck of a run in those 5 game close matches.

My pick KC is in the final four and I "think" they will get past Greenbrier to face ND again in the finals, but you never know. If they do make the finals against ND I like their chances better having lost in pool play and taking a game from them. Clearly they can win and now they have the revenge factor.

Pool A

1. Franklin 3-0

2. Ooltewah 2-1

3. Collierville 1-2

4. Farragut 0-3

 

Pool B

1. Brentwood 3-0

2. Sullivan South 2-1

3. Red Bank 1-2

4. Houston 0-3

 

 

So far so good. Got them all correct so far.

They kept it going....defeating Jackson Southside 3-1 this morning. I'm pretty sure this means they are in the semi's tomorrow...regardless whether they win this afternoon.

 

Next up...Page.

Not just yet. If they lose to Page they fall to 2-1 and Page goes to 2-1. If AC beats Jackson all three teams are 2-1 and I suppose it goes to game % to decide #1. Probably a 15 point tie break between the #2 and #3 seeds to determine who will advance. That's how it's usually done in tournament play, but who knows how you do it there.

LOL! I think even I could have picked that winner

Sad thing is that Mercy is a VERY VERY good team. Ranked nationally in the top 25 I believe, and Sacred Heart is even better but cant get to state because they have to get past Assumption in their region. Mercy will lose that second game to Assumption, but are talented to win state just about anywhere but here. Assumption is in a class all to themselves.

Sorry to get off topic. Back to AAA.

It's really fun prediction when your own dogs are in another hunt.

 

It's WAY more fun predicting here! Our state tournament is just so easy to predict who will win which matches. Here is a link to our sweet 16. Bet I get every game correct, but perhaps a couple first round games that are toss ups among teams so bad it's difficult to figure out. I'll give it a shot with my best guess and label those with *. Very doubtful I miss any of the rest, but I sure hope I'm wrong about the Lafayette/St Henry match in the final four. That one could actually be close as St Henry was the weakest of the privates this year, but upset our Notre Dame in regions.

http://scoreboard.12dt.com/scoreboard/khsa...ournament_67200

Final 8

Christian Fellowship*

Greenwood

Mercy

Assumption

Letcher Central*

Lafayette

St Henry

Central Hardin

Final 4

Greenwood

Assumption

Lafayette

St Henry

Finals

Assumption

St Henry

Champions: Assumption