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15 minutes ago, ILB1999WHS said:

if you want your best players going both ways at 6a, aren't you even more likely to lose them before the end of the season?  I'd cite Vaughns injury as making a huge impact on the season.  Imagine if you double the risk of losing impact players?

Fair point about increased injury risk. However Creasy has not been afraid to play his best players both ways. He's done it his entire time at Oakland

13 minutes ago, MJGOLDENBEARS said:

Just like he did well at Riverdale… Kreisky was a minion of Coach TP while at Mount Juliet. Most people don’t know nor care but I like to force people into uncomfortable thoughts. 

You're talking about Will Kriesky though correct? I think his twin brother Matt is the one being mentioned for the Blackman job.

1 hour ago, BarneySox2007 said:

Your probably right just trying to throw some humor towards things. Going to be honest a lot of fans are sacred our head coach may eventually change careers. others have worried he may be loading his plate to full to be head coach at a program like Maryville. Everyone will be looking for excuses if the program keeps sliding and with such a loss of starting players and another year of uncertainty at the QB position. I've known our head coach since he was a kid and he is a very smart young man and not only that I do know his mom and dad very well also think they did a great job raising a great kid. Derek's business is none of my business but I do know what ever he choses in life he will do it well. I've always worried that the bar was raised so high that any drop in the win collum would start the rumor wagon rolling. I am going to say this first and for all that a lack in good athletes all the sudden really hurt the team last year. You have to have good athletes at all four defensive back positions if your planning on playing a team like Oakland or they'll just run right past you as most have seen the last couple of losses. You can fake it only so long and the truth shows it ugly head against the Patriots. I'll also be completly honest here, I thing GQ may have possibly left over something that may have happened plus he may have figured the pipeline was drying up turning out 30 man football teams at the junior high versus the times when most of those teams had 60 or more kids in the past. We have pretty much the same coaching staff as before when GQ was here and I can say this for a fact that there was a missing element in last years team and that was the lack of skilled athletes as in the past.

All good points. Derek was kind of in a tough spot having to follow GQ, although it was definitely still a great opportunity for him. Having to follow a legend there was obviously going to be some drop off but Oakland's emergence has had a lot to do with that among the other things you mentioned. Derek has still done quite well for himself, 76-9 with 2 state championships so far is still impressive. If not for Oakland, I'd say Maryville would have at least a couple more championships right now.

On 2/9/2023 at 1:30 PM, MidTennFootball said:

Siegel actually had a chance to hire Creasy in 2010, but chose Wyant instead

Bet that one stings

Prediction: Maryville will be hosting their annual meeting with Oakland on Black Friday again this year

13 minutes ago, Augustus said:

Who exactly is Crouch?  Where does he coach?

Green Hill

9 minutes ago, ILB1999WHS said:

the thread title must have given it away...

 

And they only beat Bearden by 18.  All signs point to Bearden improving significantly this year.

Only by 18? They'll have to improve significantly just to have a chance of beating Maryville. Oakland is a different animal. I don't think Bearden has beaten Maryville since the early 90s

56 minutes ago, ILB1999WHS said:

Does Bearden have to be in the 6a discussion?

31 minutes ago, wolfgang said:

I think that Bearden must be in the 6A discussion

 

WHO DAT SAY THEY GONNA BEAT JOSH JONES?

What discussion are we referring to? Winning the championship? Making it to the championship game? Making it to the semis? Since the thread title refers to the championship game participants, I'll give my opinion on that as far as Bearden. I guess they could be part of the discussion but I would consider it unlikely. They have to beat Maryville first before they can even worry about knocking off Oakland. When was the last time Bearden beat Maryville?

2 hours ago, AllSidesEqualBoro said:

Nothing confirmed, but either smith or Kreisky. K is the “safe” pick because of his RuCo background. Plus he’s getting the backing of area coaches. But again, this is all hearsay. They need to get this right, because  Blackman can become the new Siegel of Football in this area. Also Siegel is quietly building something over there.

Not doubting the information, just curious.. why would Kriesky be one of the top candidates for this job?

Just now, SurfingPatriot786 said:

Wow! All interesting names, but surprised by a couple of them. Not that they would do a bad job, just that they would want to coach at Blackman.

What surprises you most about them wanting the job? That they'll have to contend with Oakland in their own region?

11 hours ago, MidTennFootball said:

Highly recommend this site when ever you need to look up a coach or records : TNHSFB History

Appreciate the link. I've never come across that site before. A lot of great info

10 minutes ago, FBfan26 said:

I didn’t see that many cars in Chattanooga lol. I felt like I was at the wrong place lol but yea I feel you.

I feel like that will probably be the new norm unfortunately. Too many other ways of being able to watch the games now, a lot of people would rather stay home given the option to. 

34 minutes ago, SurfingPatriot786 said:

Since the topic moved this direction anyway, I had a thought as well. When everyone talks about all the transfers and talent Oakland has, I don't think enough credit is given to Creasy for the way he manages personnel. Nowadays, kids are always looking for an excuse to transfer if they think they are a super star and should be getting more playing time. Creasy seems like he manages that rosters, coaches up all the players, and keeps everyone focused on a common goal as well as anyone we've seen in recent memory. I can't even imagine what it's like to coach somewhere that has multiple RB's, DB's, etc. that all deserve snaps and playing time. 

As for Rutherford county as whole, I've always assumed it's like Williamson County in the sense that talent is all over the county and it just cycles around who the top dog is to a certain extent. Over the last 20 years, several of the Williamson County schools have competed for championships or had the ability too. Rutherford County has been the same with Smyrna, Blackman, Riverdale, Oakland, etc. all being in a position to be really good or at different times a particular one was the best of the best. Seems like the right head coach could take any of these schools to a high level. 

As for the original topic, wonder if Palmer or Osteen is a candidate. I think they would do a great job at Blackman, but also wouldn't blame them for being happy where they are. Gonna be fun to see who they hire.

Agree on all points.

14 minutes ago, MidTennFootball said:

It's been interesting to see Oakland's offense evolve each yr he's been here. He's been able to adapt to his personnel and has been able to do it in various different ways. Not a lot of coaches who start with the Wing-T are that flexible 

He's always been good at adapting to his personnel back to his days at TC, and it does seem that the longer he coaches the more his offense continues to evolve and get even better. I don't think anyone would argue that Oakland has benefitted from transfers, but at the very least their success has been a combination of both talent and elite coaching. I always cringe when I hear/read "Anyone can win with the best talent" 

3 hours ago, MidTennFootball said:

No doubt they've benefited from transfers. Way I see it, just karma correcting itself after losing so much talent to the Nashville privates over the years. That said, you can't run the ball if you can't block and most of Oakland's linemen have been homegrown, as well as their defense. Not sure Collins transferring made a great difference, Sparks never quite felt like a good fit for either side. Blows my mind that Hewitt wasn't even getting snaps at Riverdale at QB for the most part. Antonio Patterson was a homegrown, could argue that Oakland didn't even need Jordan James to win state in 2020 ( maybe 2021 as well)

In the last 5 years, Blackman has had more talent transfer in than Oakland, but has had their struggles. Talent gets you to the playoffs, but your gonna get exposed if that's all you rely on.  The results of Oakland's feeder programs speak for themselves. In a perfect world, everybody plays all 4 years at the school they started at, but that's not always gonna be the case, especially when your in a popular place to live like Rutherford and Williamson are

This is what Creasy doesn't get enough credit for. They've obviously had a lot of talented players transfer in, but it takes a lot more than talented players to win a championship, let alone multiple championships at this level. The line of scrimmage is where Oakland usually has a significant advantage over every team they play. Creasy is a genius at using multiple formations, shifts, trades, etc to create mismatches & number advantages. He doesn't get enough credit for the feeder system he's put in place. What has been built there is a result of a lot more than just having some talented players transfer in.

Jackson would have gone wherever Creasy did. Followed him from Trousdale County

Whether Spurlock did things to favor Oakland or not, Creasy certainly didn't need any help from him to get Oakland where it is today. If he had taken over Blackman instead of Oakland, he would have Blackman where Oakland is today. 

On 1/23/2023 at 12:50 PM, MidTennFootball said:

Don't think Oakland ppl are blind to Creasy leaving, but I don't think he's gonna leave for the first one that throws a check at him if his chances to win a title aren't good

This ^^^

16 minutes ago, Blaze45 said:

Here is the thing. He might not have any interest in coaching at private school level, but he could double his income, by drawing retirement from the state (public schools) and get a good little paycheck coaching in the privates. He wouldn't leave retire at Oakland to go coach public because he would lose part of what he would be getting in his retirement amount. Why would he not Double his paycheck to do what he loves...

 

 

I definitely understand your points about doubling his income. Maybe he does decide to go that route eventually. All I'm saying is with what he has going on at Oakland right now, I wouldn't expect him to be leaving any time soon.

On 1/13/2023 at 2:38 PM, Blaze45 said:

Well I might enjoy it while you can ... Creasy will have his 25 years of service in Tenn public schools in 2 years. His son will graduate, at which point he can load up while maxing out his teacher retirement and benefits with the state he can go on and go to the private school sector, and clean house with no penalty against his retirement.  

I could be wrong, but I really don't think Creasy has any interest in coaching at the private schools. If he does leave I would expect it to be to the college level. I wouldn't expect that to happen any time soon either but time will tell. He'll be at Oakland 2 more years minimum but I would expect a lot longer

Being reported now that Witten is staying in Texas

23 minutes ago, ORWildcats1 said:

I guess the new coach better not yell or even raise his voice or he'll be fired too.

Surely there’s more to the story than this. Very sad if not

There may be more to it, but if not it wouldn't surprise me that much. Sadly it's the world we live in nowadays. 

7 minutes ago, OLD PIRATE said:

Old Pirate ain’t caught wind of a new schedule. Where in the cat hair do you get it

https://tssaasports.com/sports/schedules/?sport=football&schoolid=467&schoolYear=2023

37 minutes ago, HTV said:

And Texas high school football is just played at a different level, and the support of high school football there is as good as it gets anywhere, from the largest schools to the smallest schools.  

 

Completely agree. Fan support there is second to none