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also add in the school is on the grounds of what used to be Tennessee Temple High School and well you can connect the dots; odd to have a PUBLIC Boys only and PUBLIC Girls Only school literally share the same campus but 2 diff addys...

9 hours ago, alessic7 said:

Either way, if you're going to send 4 teams from a district, do away with district tourney  and advance the top 4 finishers from the regular season. Make the regular season actually count. District tournaments are played on neutral courts there is no seeding advantage, especially when in competitive districts anyone can upset anyone in a one game scenario.

so you basically want it like Football, so that teams cant "cinderella" their way thru a tournament and make a DEEP run to either a region or even STATE tournament bid... *sigh* yeah Regular Season MEANS SOMETHING, especially in those districts that have an uneven number of teams, ya finish first you more than likely just have a Bye to the Region Tournament(just seeding matches after that) but for those who didn't do as well they have to play their way in, I've seen some teams pull off massive upsets as 5 and 6 seeds in 6-7 team districts and put a good run at trying to get to the Sub State, so what point are you trying to get at here... would you rather we just do like Football and just go "ok we just take 4 teams from each district(news flash some classes have districts that only have 3 due to enrollment issues, and/or sanctions), and just play straight to the big house from 64 teams; yeah... no, we've had this System for a while now and it ain't changing and MOST of the time it gets it right... i can tell ya what i have a problem with... "Blind drawing" the Elite 8 for each... how about  we SEED the teams and then pair them that way(putting teams from the same district on opposite ends of the bracket obviously) and do it that way... yeah ideal idea but never gonna happen *sigh*

what you're thinking of happened in 1998-2000 when they did pre-determined which sectional winners(and runners up) played eachother in advance; it worked but it took out the blind draw element

9 hours ago, CaptainGuru said:

Pickett Female Bobcats should take on Bearden Female Bulldogs. Pickett Female Bobcats would not be able to stop Bearden Female Bulldogs team with Natalya Hodge. Hodge is #2 for Bearden Female Bulldogs. She would help mercy rule Pickett Female Bobcats. It would happen. I guarantee it. Do you want to bet me? I am Captain Guru and I approve this message. 

i'm pretty sure they would at least try to schedule them if it wasn't for all the mandatory district games that need made up plus a few rivalry games

i will say, how they divy up teams and into what "areas" make like little to no sense in some of those classes... like look at A; you have teams from Celina and Smithville playing against teams as far as the TN River... this makes sense... how... but i digress; i know our local school wants nothing to do with them and would prefer to play independent anyway, as it seems with about a third of the Upper Cumberland schools

1 hour ago, Bkbfan4ever said:

There is a better way.  Rotate the substate winners every year.  No west vs west, east vs East or middle vs Middle.  Yes sometimes it will mean that the two best teams play each other in the first round but at least you will know who you might play before your substate game   Preparation time currently for first round is limited 

they did this back in 99-00 with the original version of the Sub-State play, where winners of each substate played as the as you look at the bracket 1, 3, 5 and 7 position and the losers of each played in the 2, 4, 6 and 8 and it rotated who played who with the only rule being that the same sub state reps couldn't play eachother until the finals at earliest; they dropped the format for "unknown reasons" after the 2000 season

Pickett opts out of playing in the TMSAA due to the rules that they cannot use 5th and 6th graders if they wanna play "middle school" only games, hurts any possible growth for their youngest players; also the fees is the main problem and restrictive schedules + licensed refs, etc pretty much all of the stuff listed above

10 hours ago, Indian said:

Blow it all up. No classes in Division I regular season (Division 2 can do the same). Everyone schedules 10 games on their own each year, even if home and away the same season. Travel improves, closer rivalries renewed. TSSAA can assist any having scheduling issues.  

After 10 weeks, divide the 300 teams into 5 playoff classes by enrollment. Take the top 32 of 60 (computer ranked-record, strength of opposition etc), then put those 32 into 4 geographic quads. 
 

If it were to continue, just take 20 day enrollment from the current year. Lots of excitement with nothing final until week 10 ends. 

so similar to how Illinois, Michigan and Wisconsin do it... i kinda like the idea in theory... dunno how it'd work in practice though...

2 hours ago, Heisenberg said:

Why do we have 6 classifications in football and 4 in other sports?  Why not the same classification for all sports?  I believe we are the only state that does this

Indiana does it too and has roughly the same number of schools we do here in TN, diff being they mix Public, Private and Charter schools together

something they didn't bring up... are they gonna take into account teams like East Memphis and Alcoa who traditionally PLAY UP for this... or are they gonna make them play "in their range" in all classes...

the issues with the Range and with VB is their "Co-op" Schools pretty much make it impossible as both schools(York and White Co) are already somewhat succesful and the parents would rather have their kids play there than start up their own program and "suffer" like PC did for about 10 years before potentially 'catching fire' and doing well; also as stated earlier the price of getting  suitable field/stadium is a bit steep for these 2 schools as it is, 8-man however... well scheduling would probably be the main issue and distance traveled to some of the smaller schools, especially east of nashville, plus a lot of these schools would probably see it as a STEP DOWN, and have the "if you can't play full football, why are we playing this alternate format" mentality...

On 8/13/2021 at 5:16 PM, highschoolfbfan777 said:

I guarantee you Red Boiling Springs makes the playoffs the next 2 years!!!Seeing how Pickett County wimped out only 4 teams in their region so all 4 get in.Sad though.As much as I love RBS would have loved to see Pickett edge them out once for THEIR first ever playoff 

wasn't really wimping out, it was more of the community(not everyone but they know who they are) and the school board deciding Football is a worthless venture and instead tell the kids that at most 20 of you will participate in any sports(basketball) rather than promote other sports, sadly it's never gonna change either... we had a decent chance of making the playoffs this year and yet the school board decided otherwise

man it feels like every year in Single A on either the boys or Girls Side 1 always plays 2 or 3 in the first round... always seems fishy to me

Cosby vs Pickett is a rematch of the 2000 state Semis, i expect a close game there

Celina vs Madison... depending on which Bulldog Team shows up this could either be a blowout or a 2-3 point game

Richland MAY blow out North Greene

West Carroll vs Health Science... no clue on this one

yep it was a forfeit win as the other region only had 2 teams that played ANY basketball this year and one of them was caught with an ineligible player so Madison moves thru to State

7 hours ago, jimmycrackedthatcorn said:

Pickett also had 2 girls on their team. One was a lineman and not half bad. 

we've only ever had 1 girl(Sam Harden) on our team and she at one point played every position except Kicker/Punter for us; no clue why you think 2 were on our team(outside of someone putting "Erin" Reagan down instead of Aaron Reagan); also i can pretty much tell ya  RBS and PC would rather drop football than go 8 man, too much stress financially to set up for 8 man and do a full schedule(unless it's scrimmages against other schools JV who converted over to play 8 man games) so yeah... moot point

the issue you're gonna have(for the most part) is the sheer distance a lot of these small schools(i did the rough math and if EVERY school around 260kids or less[which is like 21 schools]) would have to travel if they went 8 man, some of these districts would look more like D2 regions travel wise which would take a LOT out of some of the really small schools to go and find opponents on an 8-9 game schedule unless you mix privates and publics together(which you're gonna have pushback on that) besides schools like Pickett and RBS will be fighting to keep 11 man anyway in spite of their records over the last few years.

6 minutes ago, chill said:

Every district should have 5 teams with 3 districts with 6 to make 83. 

that would make sense but sadly a lot of times Geography will not allow that to be, hopefully numbers will fall JUST right to make it possible though

slim, eventhough for historical reasons it'd make sense they'll probably FIGHT to keep them down there rather than move Lookout Valley into the marion county district

4 hours ago, mrbigster said:

I would think if they go 2A,things stay the same as it looks like it's how it is drawn now.If they go to 3A,I'd think the smallest enrollment school would go to 2 A.Could be wrong.Just what I'm thinking

they've said many a time before in the past that once you're "set" in a class, you can ONLY move up(unless your enrollment figures are wrong) and cannot move down, so if say... York goes up, the next lowest is STILL in 3A, i don't know why they don't do common sense of drop a team or 2 to even out numbers or even look by geographic regions at who's the smallest team and still in reasonably close numbers to the other teams near them in the lower class and have them drop down... *shrug* this is why i guess i don't make the big bucks that TSSAA does...

On 10/15/2020 at 5:48 PM, Sidelinehustler said:

Bingo

On 10/15/2020 at 5:34 PM, ChineseFlu said:

York is less than 40 miles away from Oneida and Wartburg, why would they not be in that region and maybe even Monterey.  That is complete lack of geographic knowledge of the state or you just completely don't give a crap about rural schools and the distance they are travelling.

Probably because of history, and add in York and Monterey are in the Central Time zone(though in my map i did have Monterey and York in the East at first, but add in 1 hour to all times for the team in central and it can screw things up... *shrug*  also hate how we're seeing a lot of 4 team regions, i get why it's happening but when i made mine i tried as hard as possible to make every region 5 or 6 teams(7 when it made sense)... something tells me $ will talk with TSSAA or that a lot of teams will opt up and throw everything off... and a few of regions will make little sense...

crosstown is due to the enrolments used being freshmen only last enrollment cycle, a few of those numbers may be from the W.E.B Schools closing down and a few of the private schools closing down over the last few years, the one that threw me off was Bolton, they've dropped almost 2/3 of their enrollment over the last 6 years...

also note that some of those enrollments by be due to dual-enrollment schools who offer no sports and are co-ops only for some of those schools

also is RBSHS really down to 81 kids or ya think they probably tried to put down 181 and just forgot the 1... man if that's the case they're getting down to Hermitage numbers... also any word on if they're gonna be forcing teams up and down based on the old 20% rule they use for the mid enrollment or not?

2 hours ago, Indian said:

"Non-Official" breakdown 

Football

1A:

Red Boiling Springs High School 9/21/2020 81

Bluff City High School 9/16/2020 103

Gleason High School 9/15/2020 127

Oakdale High School 9/11/2020 140

Sunbright High School 9/11/2020 152

Greenfield High School 9/15/2020 158

Coalfield High School 9/11/2020 162

South Fulton High School 9/14/2020 180

Cloudland High School 9/21/2020 189

Hollow Rock-Bruceton Central High School 9/29/2020 195

Pickett Co. High School 9/16/2020 195

Lookout Valley High School 9/29/2020 204

Lake Co. High School 9/11/2020 210

Copper Basin High School 9/8/2020 217

Greenback High School 9/3/2020 239

Midway High School 9/16/2020 247

Humboldt High School 10/5/2020 252

Collinwood High School 9/17/2020 259

McEwen High School 10/1/2020 267

Perry Co. High School 9/17/2020 268

Huntland High School 9/16/2020 273

Hancock Co. High School 9/3/2020 280

Jellico High School 9/16/2020 280

Oliver Springs High School 9/16/2020 281

Moore Co. High School 9/21/2020 286

South Pittsburg High School 10/1/2020 287

West Carroll High School 9/21/2020 288

Wayne Co. High School 9/17/2020 289

Clarkrange High School 9/11/2020 290

Middleton High School 10/2/2020 298

Sale Creek School 9/29/2020 299

Cornersville High School 9/21/2020 300

Gordonsville High School 9/17/2020 306

Eagleville High School 9/18/2020 317

Unaka High School 9/21/2020 323

Dresden High School 9/15/2020 325

Jo Byrns High School 9/21/2020 328

Clay Co. High School 9/11/2020 330

Memphis Middle College 10/2/2020       330 

Harriman High School 9/16/2020 333

McKenzie High School 9/15/2020 335

Memphis Academy of Science & Engineering 10/2/2020 341

North Greene High School 9/16/2020 342

B. T. Washington High School 10/2/2020 345

Cosby High School 9/21/2020 347

Loretto High School 9/18/2020 353

Rockwood High School 9/16/2020 354

Fayetteville High School 9/2/2020 355

Whitwell High School 10/1/2020 369

Westwood High School 10/2/2020 373

 

 

unless Clarkrange randomly decided to play football(and found a field) they shouldn't be in these counts; no info on if BT Washington has dropped their program or not either... also still no clue on what the co-op numbers will be for some schools, i still do not understand why Murfreesboro Central co-ops with Eagleville either and it not count against Eagleville more(as MCM is like 2.5x the size of Eagleville) *shrug*  will be interesting if this is where the numbers really fall to and some teams do not opt up(though i think for fairness they need to keep numbers EQUAL, if a team opts up they slide the next team down, with geography in mind) but... well T$$AA

still waiting on Happy Valley, Knox Catholic and MLK Memphis numbers, everything else is for co-op numbers

2 hours ago, orngnblk said:

10 starters for one is what I was told.No way we can field enough kids to take care of themselves.We have 20 Freshmen.

we up in Byrdstown feel this pain all too well, we're LUCKY to get 15 players(and only 1-2 real linemen) sadly the culture(and school board/families) up here won't let kids play who want to play OR heavily discourage people from playing anything other than basketball... *sigh* hope things turn around for you guys, never thought i'd see a day where Pickett and Greenback have identical records in football...