WingTguy

Indian, 

Thanks for coming up and supporting your team.  We had hoped your experience was a great one and worth the trip to Woodbury, and especially how well you support your fellow Region members by traveling for your team.  I guess you left out somewhere in your post about saying how well your team played and what a great atmosphere it was for fans and players on both sides.  I am sorry you did not enjoy your "Bush League" experience last night.  I hope you and your team have a great season and the best to your players and coaches.  

15 hours ago, chs4life said:

If Cannon and Grundy counties don't hire someone soon will the programs go away?

I doubt they would do away with the programs.  These counties are dealing with so much from the top down that they are not putting a priority on hiring a new coach.  People who do not know football think you can come straight in and change everything overnight.  If they hire a solid coach it will take years to right the ship.  

All quiet in Cannon!  Anybody heard any news?

11 hours ago, bigjoe said:

Who is the AD at the high school?

Matt Cagle. I think. 

It could be a while since the county is looking for new director.  The former director of schools  made all hiring decisions so I am not sure who will be conducting the interview process.  You would think that the AD or principal would be leading this, but it also depends on what jobs will be open so far to bring in someone.  As of right now there are no teaching slots open at the high school unless someone leaves. 

15 hours ago, madmolly said:

Years ago there was a guy coaching football in Woodbury who told a school board member he needed a raise if they wanted him to stay. At a board meeting one night a school board member came up to him and handed him a 50 dollar and said "do not  tell anyone". The coach said"do not worry I want I am just as much ashamed of it as you are". True story I promise you. The guy left not to long after that. In many ways it is still the same just hate it for the kids.

This is exactly the thing that parents and community need to stand up for.  There was something like 150 players and parents at the school board meeting a few weeks ago because they wanted change.  If enough people get together and support it then it will be successful.  

5 hours ago, wingman10 said:

Going to take a while

You are right Wingman!  

That is why it is important for this hire to be made with the intentions of building a program.  It will be a process and years in the making.  If someone is going to dedicate their life to doing it right then they need to be compensated for it. 

20 hours ago, lock63 said:

Been keeping up with various threads a long time.  Had to create a new account; kept forgetting log in info

I began the county wide program in 95 with great hopes. Left it in great hands; they were quite successful. Over the years, the program became affiliated with the community rather than the school programs. No real harm, except the loss of the middle school mentality.

I returned this year. Yes, the supplements need improvement. My combined supplement for two sports dropped by $5300. I arrived to a team of 8 kids. We grew and we learned some football. No, we did not win any games but 1st game to last we began to resemble a football team. I am not a champion of life guy but I'll take a win there.

I, along with some others, did persuade the county to provide transportation to practice. Major accomplishment that will help next year.

The 7 and 8 grades do need to begin identifying with each other. We hope to take steps in that direction.

I hope the community can see a renewed effort being made for the kids.

This is a great start.  Having the foundations laid is so important to making a program successful.  I know that the Mustangs Football Program helped several young men become successful football players.  I also liked the football leagues that were formed around 2004-2005 that played each other.  This gave the opportunity for a lot of kids to get playing experience and fed the Mustangs (Now Junior Lions) with experienced players.  

Keep up the good work coach, it will pay off down the road. 

4 hours ago, madmolly said:

Can' t see why any coach would want to  be in a system,   at  a high school, when that system did not have a Middle School  building unless they were from there or could not get another job.  How's that county-wide team working out for you over the last  few years? If you are going to do it do it right not half-way just look what you get.

The County Wide team is not supported the way it should be, just like some middle school teams are not supported.  

Since Cannon has no money to build a new Middle School, lets please move past the idea of a Middle School.  It would cost $15 million plus to build one, I base this off the cost of one being built in RCS.  See reference: http://www.dnj.com/story/news/2016/07/19/board-approves-funding-rocky-fork-ms-construction/87289016/

I figure that a MS in Cannon could probably get done for half as much as RCS.  Plus, you would have to build athletic fields and facilities to go along with this.  This does not include buying the land and finishing the building.  

Enough?

Money would be better spent updating facilities, turf field so all could play on the surface (County teams, Junior leagues, 9th, JV, and Varsity)

Weight Room Coach ( For all sports)

Weight Room addition 

Competitive Salaries for coaches and teachers.

Investment in programs for kids.

Transportation for county wide teams (Football)

Paid Coaches for County Wide Teams. 

1 hour ago, hollowman said:

That's ONE of the several issues at hand.

Your right.  The program is in shambles.  The one thing you have to do is get the pay competitive to bring in top quality coach and assistant.  12 month contract will make it better, but more would be needed. 

Next Priority is the weight room. 

On 12/8/2017 at 4:58 PM, redwolf said:

Do you have anyone in mind?

I would put out feelers to Rutherford County to see if a young up and coming coaching was ready to take over a program.  You would have to increase their pay. 

Where is coach Herron going?  He has done a pretty good job at Upperman.

Work with what you have.

Form a committee (coaches, parents, administration) to interview the top 3 to 4 applicants who are selected by the AD and Principal.  If the AD has no say in the process, then the AD is a not a true leadership position.  Hire someone who is hungry and wants to make a statement.  Don't just pick someone who makes a lot of empty promises, but uses words like "hard work, commitment, dedication, will to learn."  

What Woodbury needs is a coach that can run a weight room, coach his butt off, and command the respect of his players.  You will start to win games with that attitude, but it takes years to build a whole team on those principals.  

21 hours ago, TheAmbassador said:

I bet you do. LMBO

I do.  I know several people who would take that job in a heartbeat if the district would make it competitive to other systems.  

3 minutes ago, madmolly said:

Hey WingT would you agree that you usually get what you pay for and you gets caught in the middle the kids playing they deserve better. wish that things could get better. if enough people really cared maybe it would.

Yes and no.  Sometimes you get a hungry up and coming coach, or a coach who has already been around and just wants to make a difference.  A successful coach gives up a huge part of their time to make a team better and they have to face everything the world throws at them just like everyone else, but the difference is that they are evaluated each Friday night for everyone to see.  That is fine until you start looking at their paycheck and realize that their paycheck is dismal compared to those who are working with less qualifications and never have to share what they scored on their last evaluation.  

You are so right, you get what you pay for, but their has to be some want to by the community and the coach to make it better.  

I don't  a middle school will solve the world's problems the way you think they would Molly.  It would be much more cost effective to put together a county wide football team, like the jr. Lions, and support them.  Unless you have solid coaches at a Middle School then it just becomes another stepping stone. 

I am sure if they really tried to find a talented coach it could happen.  Going to have to offer some money and assistant slots to to be competitive or the best you can hope for is 2-3 wins per year.  

I know a successful coach that was there would return if offered a competitive deal.  

Molly,

I am not sure what you mean by not having a schedule, and according to TN High School Football he has resigned.

http://tnhighschoolfootball.com/t-j-daniel-resigns-alma-mater-cannon-county/

Parker may have said that you were going to be fired or you can resign, but I do not think he is coming back next year.  

Also, even if he did come back, why would other teams not play Cannon.  They would think that it is an easy win and have no problem playing a game with them.