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4 minutes ago, mikeslau said:

I knew I would get an answer like that..no one from Mcminn will answer because the correct answer doesn't fit your agenda

I don't have an agenda bro. I couldn't care less about either team. If they both lose then great. I just hated missing out on a great game and good seasons to end like that. The answer is you trust the Coach about contact trace and play. They all haven't been at school and that kid hadn't been at practice since Tuesday.

3 minutes ago, Indian2424 said:

 so your saying that the coach got the call about test on the way to the game, but the parents took their kid to get the rapid test in the morning anway? why didnt they take him on WED  or THUR so they could get multiple rapid tests, they are just gonna wait until friday for a test that your saying the coach didnt even know was + until their on their way to the game. Im really trying to see how THAT adds up because i want to see this game played, but thats a little ridiculous  

They were probably told you'll know by Friday. Kid wanted to go support his team and gameday rolls around with no call from dept of health. They take rapid test so he can go. Maybe it was two kids. Still doesn't change anything. Bo Cagle said the kid he was called about has not been around the team. 

I could care less. I just had nothing better to do tonight. Just sharing my experience with McMinn County COVID protocol. I just wanted to watch a really good game. To me, TSSAA and Health Dept dropped the ball. It's BS. 

3 minutes ago, mikeslau said:

Thanks for that but in this case It was found out right before the game.. so stop making excuses for what has happened earlier in year and try to answer my question

Yes. We would play. Better?

1 minute ago, Indian2424 said:

BUT that's just speculating on your part, you can't say it LITERALLY adds up if you don't know for sure about the information that we "supposedly" have

Bo Cagle said he's been away from the team since Tuesday. That's not speculation. 

1 minute ago, Indian2424 said:

BUT that's just speculating on your part, you can't say it LITERALLY adds up if you don't know for sure about the information that we "supposedly" have

Yep. Kid got a rapid test and the 3-5 day test results yesterday. 

3 minutes ago, Indian2424 said:

Do we know for sure that's when the player got tested?

That's the only timeline that works to have a positive and negative result on the same day. It still doesn't matter when he tested. He's been away from the team and school since Tuesday. 

2 minutes ago, mikeslau said:

So what is any team to do when they get the same call opposing coach gets  an hour before the game that opposing team has a member of their team test positive with Covid? Should they just say no problem and risk getting their team sick? I find it hard to believe any team,including Mcminn County, would say don't worry about and let's just play.. especially in the playoffs

Happens all year without opposing teams knowing anything. Our first game against McMinn, we had 8 kids out. We contact traced and set the players out. McMinn wasn't notified..Its been done this way all season. Bo said the kid hasnt been around the team and his team was clear. It's been coach/teacher word all year. 

3 minutes ago, WaCoJaCo said:

So you're saying he got all this done while the McMinn team was on the road to Kingsport? The coach said they got the word of a positive Covid case on their way to Kingsport. Don't ad up.

The result from the test done on Tuesday was the phone call coach got on the way to game. 

Parents probably took kid to get rapid test done in 15 minutes that morning. Rapid test came back negative.

It literally adds up lol The kid still has to be released by the state though. Him and his Parents should not have been at the game. Still doesn't effect the gameplay though

3 minutes ago, WaCoJaCo said:

The coach said they got the phone call about a positive Covid player on the way to Kingsport. Yet there was a player that didn't travel with the team but came with his parents to the game with a letter in hand stating that he tested negative after testing positive. This doesn't jive. Either he got that letter somewhere on his way to Kingsport or there's more than one player in question here. Somebody's not telling the truth.

 

He probably got a quick test done and got a negative result letter. He came to game with parents. Has nothing to do with the team or school. 

The other test was probably given Tuesday and returned Friday. The quick test was probably done Friday. You can be positive on Tuesday and negative on Friday. Rapid tests come back in 15 minutes. Still wasn't the team's fault. 

6 minutes ago, mikeslau said:

Call me stupid I guess but how can you do contact tracing 48 hours prior to a positive test when you don't know it was positive until Friday..you can't tell me they do contact tracing after every test they do on any student when they don't know if it is positive or not.

THEY DO NOT TRACE UNTIL THE TEST RESULT COMES IN. THEY GO BACK 48 HRS AND QUARANTINE CLOSE CONTACTS. 

They send home every student or player that has been in contact less than 6 feet and more than 15 minutes. Every time a positive result happens this is done. Since the player hasn't been in contact with anyone at school or football since Tuesday then there is no need to trace. 

11 minutes ago, mikeslau said:

So Mcminn coach got a call that a player tested positive for Covid and he thought it would be okay since player wasn't with him since Wednesday..is the coach that dumb? that player was around other players and coach didn't need any contact tracing? ...and also he guesses DB got same call?..does that mean coach wasn't gonna tell DB coach about positive test?..so many wrong things here ...

Contact tracing only occurs 48 hrs before positive test. Tuesday is well out of that window. No trace needed. 

4 minutes ago, JustAnotherFootballFan said:

Phone calls are not made unless you are tested or contact traced.  The answer to all of this speculation goes back to why did the kid get tested.

Most likely because he was sent home Tuesday due to a contact trace and wanted to test to find out

3 hours ago, AmericanSniper said:

No way McMinn gets a favorable ruling on Monday. And no way that I can see that DB can be held responsible.

If I’m in DB shoes how do they not advance if they don’t let them play the game. 

48 hrs from your positive test you start contact tracing. McMinn didn't practice Wednesday and kid wasn't there Thursday so McMinn is clear to play. 

Comment from McMinn County coach Bo Cagle on the situation at Dobyns-Bennett: "We got positive confirmation on the way up there that we had a COVID case on the team. Now the thing about it was, the COVID case was not with the team." (1/2)"So we thought everything would be all right once we got the word, and then they (D-B) got I guess the same call about us having one, and the Sullivan County Health Department would not allow the game to be played." (2/2)

Also, Cagle noted that McMinn did not practice Wednesday, and the player who tested positive did not practice with the team Thursday.

Also, from TSSAA executive director Bernard Childress: "A decision will not be made until we get all the facts. The schools will submit their side on Monday." "Anything is possible but playing the game next week is highly unlikely."

https://mobile.twitter.com/DPAGabeGarcia/status/1327715230680555521

Comment from McMinn County coach Bo Cagle on the situation at Dobyns-Bennett: "We got positive confirmation on the way up there that we had a COVID case on the team. Now the thing about it was, the COVID case was not with the team." (1/2)"So we thought everything would be all right once we got the word, and then they (D-B) got I guess the same call about us having one, and the Sullivan County Health Department would not allow the game to be played." (2/2)

Also, Cagle noted that McMinn did not practice Wednesday, and the player who tested positive did not practice with the team Thursday.

Also, from TSSAA executive director Bernard Childress: "A decision will not be made until we get all the facts. The schools will submit their side on Monday." "Anything is possible but playing the game next week is highly unlikely."

https://mobile.twitter.com/DPAGabeGarcia/status/1327715230680555521

59 minutes ago, tj3775 said:

Sullivan county has its own health department. It really doesn't go by what the Tennessee department of health says. We are one of six counties that have its own health department. I wonder how that weighs into this?

I'm guessing the kid received a negative test and thought "now I can go be with my team." McMinn allowed it based on that paper. However, that is not protocol. Only the dept of health can release you from quarantine. He can't come back until they call. Dumb move if that happened but it's all speculation atm

1 hour ago, elhosel said:

The entire school (McMinn Co) was shut down Thursday and Friday by the County School Board for COVID..... how in hades should they have been allowed to play anyway.... if a school is out for weather, they don't play. TSSAA should make a decision no later than tomorrow. 

Not true. McMinn teams play all the time on weather days 

Good luck with those refunds. T$$AA keeping those "donations." 

What health department official is working so late? 

5 minutes ago, formerblazer said:

Every school protocol from the state department of education and the state health department has a 10 day isolation if you are positive and contact tracing and a 14 day quarantine for everyone within 6 feet for 15 minutes in a 24 hour period who was around that person.  That's the rule that should have been followed in McMinn.  Biggest question I have was 1.  If the positive was on Tuesday why was no one informed 2.  Why was there no  quarantining from a health department or school district on Wednesday.  I've been part of this process this year and it happens really fast when schools are involved.  It just seems really bad that a school had this information and didn't act on it.  

 

How do you know they didn't? They didn't go to school Wednesday through today. Bo didn't let him practice or play. That's procedure. Right?

15 minutes ago, timcraw said:

If this kid was tested on tuesday and mcminn co didnt notify and he wasnt even on quarantine for a week then they did everything BUT follow protocol. 

The protocol is to contact trace for a positive test. Tracing was done and the ones not effected were cleared to play. Not all counties shut down sports teams for one case and some tracers. Some counties do. Like Hamilton Co. There's no way to prove anyone was at risk. You have to go by the coaches word that no one else was effected by the trace. Yes, the coach just like teachers with seating charts can decide contact tracing. Bo said we're good and the officials with no proof to the contrary made a unfortunate decision based on feelings not protocol. Hope they play tomorrow or Monday

DB canceled based on their opinion and feelings if that is the case. McMinn followed protocol to play and DB refused. McMinn @ Maryville next week then. 

Rules are different county to county. I think that's what happened. McMinn had a player test positive. He was quarantined and contact tracing was completed. Game still on. 

DB may forfeit for just one case in their county. Chattanooga does this. So DB thought wrong that McMinn should forfeit bc of one case on the team. I think it was just confusion and TSSAA should fix this and pay for McMinn travel. 

6 minutes ago, WaCoJaCo said:

Yeah, he didn't come because he didn't test positive. 

10 day quarantine no matter what in our county. Especially with the rapid tests. 

2 hours ago, DBGRAD70 said:

One of your players tested positive, told nobody, and came to the game anyway.  The two health departments made the decision, not the DB anything - you xy$%@#.

That can't happen. 

#1) It is now a 10 day quarantine with a test. Positive or negative. 

#2) McMinn County is notified by health care provider of a student or staff test and school sends out a list of students not allowed on campus

I believe someone overreacted tonight and a decision was made in a panic without verifying the info. A positive test on a team DOES NOT cause a forfeit. You quarantine the player and contact traced and play. 

1 hour ago, Lionsguy423 said:

Lol riiiight 

Win 1st round, win 2nd round against Loudon. That's it. Right? Wouldn't 3rd round be against Alcoa? You really don't believe y'all are Alcoa good do you?

Nevermind. 3 wins tops. Lose to Alcoa in semis.