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13 minutes ago, FHSAlum12 said:

I don't think there is a policy to keep that from happening and may happen at Bearden in this cycle. No teaching positions to work with but have a need for a football coach, they may be hamstrung into hiring someone that does not work in the school building. It is done in other sports and has been done at another school in KCS, recently.

Well hellfire... guess I should dust off the old playbooks and throw my non-teaching self in there. I had assumed HC was never a possibility.

1 minute ago, FHSAlum12 said:

Unfortunate case in KCS, is that the pay for coaching is so little... why would you want to coach there? And they don't help coaches out in the classroom with their teaching load either from what I have been told. So you end up having the same responsibility as the teacher next door during the day but work 20+ hours a week. I think that is why schools wont touch "moving people" from their teaching position when they quit coaching.

Makes sense. So why can't someone who isn't in education at all be a Head Coach? Some guy who played back in 85' and approves loans from 7-3? Separation of powers. Let your teachers teach and your coaches coach. 

1 minute ago, FHSAlum12 said:

That is what I am saying. The only teachers that really matter are Math, Science and English in a growth/achievement standpoint. "By golly the rest better be coachin"!!"

My bad, yes, we are on the same page. 

1 minute ago, FHSAlum12 said:

Sounds like less of a staffing issue and more of a lack of administrative support. I have not heard of that many coaches resigning at the same place to pursue other opportunities.

No argument there. Something has to be going on over there. 

Just now, FHSAlum12 said:

Same could be said for all teachers outside of Math, Science, English, IMO.

Do you really believe this? I think there is far more pressure on a principal to hire a quality math position, regardless of their coaching ability/willingness, than a PE position. Those who can't do, teach, and those who can't teach, teach gym is a funny old quote for a reason. PE teachers who don't coach are not good for a school. 

5 minutes ago, FHSAlum12 said:

Every teacher in that department coaches at the school.

I don't think this is true. There was a former OC that still teaches at Bearden, the HC that just stepped down, and I think a former track or girls basketball assistant? that is no longer coaching but still in PE. These all in addition to the supply PE job that just posted. 

3 minutes ago, FHSAlum12 said:

Teaching and coaching responsibilities are not connected in KCS. If they choose to coach, then great. If not, that's fine too. Honestly, I don't think that is a bad model to follow when they compensate coaches so poorly in KCS. Admin will have to be creative when they hire to either hire someone in a TA type role or hire someone who does not need a position at the school. This could be done because they have assistant coaches in the building that could handle the academic side for an HC that was not involved at the school.

 

Although it "could" be done, I don't think it's a good look when your HC isn't in the building. I cannot imagine this happening. Also, I understand coaching and teaching not being linked in all of the other teaching positions in the building, but think it would be perfectly reasonable, and understandable, for high school PE teachers to be expected to coach something. PE teachers aren't pushing the growth & achievement needle. 

I am confused. I didn't realize people taught PE that didn't coach a sport. I am all for schools focusing on academic rigor, and ensuring qualified candidates in the academic setting, but PE should be reserved for coaches. Period. Does Bearden really have a bunch of PE teachers not coaching? That seems to be the easy solution there...

14 minutes ago, FHSAlum12 said:

Defense is irrelevant when you have a strong enough offense that can go the distance and score for score with another team. I have said since the beginning on this thread. I see this being the best coach available... that is known for coaching offense. Also, I do not see a promotion from within with it taking this long to make an announcement.

  I disagree. But, hey! That's what makes the world go round. 

6 minutes ago, PostingGawd39 said:

I see, that makes sense I guess. Do you have confidence they'll make a solid hire here? Seems like there are a lot of interesting factors at work. Do Jones/Bradley get pique your interest? Someone else suggested the current DC. Seems like a great coach but maybe program needs offensive mind? 

Agree that the offense needs the most work. I'd say it would be easier to find an OC to fix the offensive issues than to take a chance on an "offensive mind" and risk losing the DC to somewhere else. A better offense would have given Bearden 2-3 more wins this year. A better offense with the absence of their DC, they probably only beat Hardin Valley. 

Reading all of the comments about how the administration doesn't care about football, why did the old HC resign? Isn't Bearden always right around .500 and in playoff contention? Was the community getting restless? Was the HC just over it? Anyways, wouldn't the DC be a prime option as a replacement? Don't know him or anything about him, but just looking at the performance of the defense, seems like he probably knows what he's doing. And if the school has no positions to offer external hires, wouldn't this make sense? First order of business would be fixing that god awful offense.