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thats very respectable. I was just curious

Sweet... I just know that last year there were atleast three, maybe four guys coming out of the west section who supposedly broke 11 by very significant amounts. Then at state those guys were no where near being under 11.

Does anybody know if the Memphis sprint times are actually legitimate this year?? Because we know last year's times were completely bogus.

Thats a fair point, but considering that 3rd and 4th place are going to state with a 2:01.9x and a 2:03.xx I would think they could have atleast qualified 1, possibly 2. and still qualified the 4x400. It then would have been their decision at state whether they wanted to bail on the 800 and make a run for the 4x400. However, I do respect them not wasting qualifying spots if their main goal is the 4x400, and clearly they have a great shot at winning.

So they didn't think they could run a good open 800 and a good 4x400? Interesting.

Someone please explain to me how Station Camp can run an 8:10 solo 4x800, which is an average of 2:02.5 per person, and yet only have one person in the open 800, and that person only runs a 2:04.xx. It seems to me that Station camp should have had a solid showing in the open 800. Just curious.

Very true. I just think it would be nice if A/AA could get to the point where the state champion in the 800 could year in and year out run more in the 1:56 -1:58 range instead of the 1:59-2:00 range. Compared to the rest of the state, alot of times our 800 times aren't that respectable. Especially considering how many teams put emphasis on the 4x800. I know in middle Tennessee, station camp, DL, MLK, FRA, always put a pretty big emphasis on 4x800's

I'm still of the opinion that a 1:59/2:00 really has no business winning state =), but judging from the fact that no one else has stepped up from across the state then I have to agree. Because this will be Mahaney's third race, he should be prime for beating, but I think even a fatigued Mahaney will run no worse than a 2:00. Judging from the other times from across the state, I think that he will win.

I highly doubt Mahaney will take the triple. In the 3200 he will have too much competition with Cole, Musick, Coniglio, and Snyder. He will win but that will not be an easy race for him. I think he will win the mile fairly easily, but I don't think he will win the 800. There are too many schools like MLK, FRA, and the occasional Memphis school that produce 800 specialists. I don't see Mahaney running much faster than 1:59 at best, and most years that will not win the 800. However, if the 800 ends up like last year where no one takes the lead and the first lap goes out at 62, Mahaney will have a shot.

game over

Hey dude, I have an idea, you can start talking crap about people the day you win a state championship. Until that day, back of Conigs.....

I really hope this comment was in jest because there was really no need for these harsh words. Seriously dude? you're gonna point out the difference between an 8k and a 5 mile??? practically the same thing

Brandan Mahaney will triple, unless someone focuses soley on the open 800 or unless Brandan lets the first lap of the 800 go out in 62 again......

I think a lot of people stink on the second mile because they go out to fast first mile, which kills you for the second mile because you end up trying to recover on the easiest mile of the course. Then people hit the third mile, and they are out of it mentally. My solution to a good steeple race is run the first mile intelligently

The problem with having a weak 5th man is that it puts an incredible amount of pressure on the 1-4 guys. You can win with a 5th man at 18:30 as long as the other guys run like they should. However there is no room for error, and one guy having a below average day could really screw the teams chances. This, I believe is another weakness for MLK. Because more than likely they do not have a front runner that will be in the top 5, they really need their 1-4 guys to run close and run fast. MC and DL atleast have front runners. I think DL is dangerous because if their 2 and 3rd guys have an above average day, they could be near the MLK pack. With Musick up front, it could make things very interesting. With MC, clearly things could get interesting with their top two guys more than likely being in the top 5. I know nothing about Station Camp or Dyesburg. I do believe that USJC will be in the top 3

I know nothing about the Union course, so I cannot tell you how it compares to steeple. I don't know anything about this Kessler kid either, but i seriously doubt he can hang with Musick on steeple. Does Kessler have a steeple time yet? o, and I apologize Mr.Couch. I simply wanted to put my two cents in, it just so happened my two cents agreed with your two cents

if you go straight from steeple times. It is obviously, Mahaney, Mark Cole, then Musick, but, and I know Conigs will never admit this, I can guarantee you that coniglio will be right in the middle of this group, because a 16:04 on Jesse Owens on a pretty warm day is a great time. I think Conigs will easily be in the 16:30's possibly the 16:20's. Simply because i think that the Jesse is around 20 seconds fast than steeple.

Mahaney is by no means unbeatable in a/aa, and on a course like Steeplechase, any given day can produce some weird times. I still think Mahaney is the favorite, but 16:31 on steeplechase is a great time by Mark Cole. Thats the fastest time by an a/aa runner on steeple chase besides mahaney in a long time.

yeah its a legit 5k, although, i personally think that what the course lacks in hills it makes up for with its retarded switchbacks. However, is it a fast course, yes. Is it faster than steeple chase, yes. Is it a minute fast?? no. On a good day weather wise i can see a time that is 30 to 35 seconds faster than a persons steeple chase pr. I pr'd by 18 seconds on the course when heat index was well over 100. So i can see these times being legit

Mahaney would have to be out over 3 weeks with no running at all for someone to be able to catch him. He is just too strong. If he is out this long, things get very interesting, because the guys contending for the 2-5 spots are very solid

lipscomb lost their 1 and 3 man, and i would never count FRA out, they just grow runners at their school

i think he was attempting to say that we won by a ton. The paper may love DL in other sports, however, i do have to agree that the xc and track field side of things does not get a lot of coverage, but when does xc and track ever get coverage?. And i'll be honest, if we did not have one of the best football players in the state who can go to pretty much any school he wants to running for our team, we probably would not have gotten hardly in coverage in track...................... As for whether anyone will beat mahaney, as long as people attempt to run a lousy pace and kick, no mahaney will not get beat. The only way anyone can win that kind of race against him is if they a) have the lead with at least 300 to go and have a great kick or turn on the kick when mahaney is not expecting it and gap him late in the race. No one who is behind mahaney with 300 left will beat him. I think the best way to beat mahaney would be to force the pace early, and take away his kick, but mahaney is clearly the strongest runner in a/aa and i don't think anyone could push mahaney enough to take away his typical sub 64 last lap....... i am now done with high school sports, good luck to everyone next year, i'll be keeping an eye on everyone, but as far as coacht postings are concerned, I am finished

so does anyone have the story on Memphis.... clearly the 4x100 was deemed hand time, but was it only the 4x100 that was deemed hand timed

Its funny. Memphis attempts to make their times alot faster, and yet the winning time for the 800 was 2:07, and 2nd place was 2:08....... wow memphis is soooo strong