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He got a good deal of playing time and at least a couple of tackles.

What was Daily's stats for the game?

Expect Gregg Wyant to be announced this week as the new head coach.

What's his background?

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MP fans you just have to ignore these bonehead comments. They are coming from people who know little about football. Anybody who knows anything about football knows there is 11 players on offense and 11 players on defense. Not one man. Green Bay lost Favre and we saw what happened. The QB from West Virginia went down tonight and we saw what happened. When teams lose there leaders at any level it most likely results in losses. Like I said, people who do not know football cant realize this and likes to take cheaps shots when they can.

 

As far as a Marco throwing a duck, when was the last time a duck was thrown 40 to 50 yards in the air. Marco made a great throw and JuJu made a great catch. Most Mckenzie fans have had class but I guess there are bonehead fans for all teams.

 

Saying all that, great run Tigers and thanks for another great memorable season and hats off to McKenzie. You guys are a great team with class and wish you luck in the state finals!

Perhaps it is you, sir who doesn't know much about the game. Mt. Pleasant has the talent level to win the State for the past two seasons, but because of the mis-use of personal, their star player runs out of gas the deeper they go into the playoffs. You cannot expect a player at ANY level to be responsible for 300+ yards a game week after week. It is physically impossible as the Mt. Pleasant coaching staff proved yet again. Mt Pleasant fans are always so quick to jump to Marco and the coaching staffs defense when it is not neccesary. No one has said anything negative against the kid. He has been playing the wrong position for three years now. He cannot throw the ball accurately enough to create a legitimate passing threat. ANYONE who knows football is aware of that. What this does is puts your team in a position where they MUST run the ball 95% of the time to be effective. When one kid is responsible for 95 % of those carries, logic dictates that his legs aren't going to hold up forever. The further you get in the playoffs, the better talent you run into. As many stated prior to the playoffs, MP can get to the semi-finals pretty much every year (with Marco) based on pure talent. Beyond that, you have to be multi-dimensional and you have to spread the ball around. It isn't theory, it is fact! Before you start attacking people who make obvious observations and insulting there football knowledge maybe you could provide us with some background on how many championships you've been responsible for coaching. I'd be interested in that!

I can't give you the exact stats but in the Friday Columbia Daily Herald the passing yards were almost exactly the same for Carkuff and Dailey. One or the other had just a few more passes and completions but the yardage was within 10 yards. It was like 667 to 663 or something like that. That's the best comparison I can give.

 

Also 43 of 94 is just under 50%.

45.7 % not a good completion percentage at any level. Daily will not beat anybody passing the ball. The only pass he threw the other night was about 10 yards behind a wide open receiver. The receiver could of walked in the endzone if the pass was even in his neighborhood. I don't see Jo Byrns stopping their run, so it will be irrelevant. Mt Pleasant's line is larger and stronger. If Jo Byrns can have long sustained drives and keep M.P. 's lineman on the field for long stretches, their blocking isn't near as effective when they get back on offense. This is the only way Jo Byrns wins the game. Mt. Pleasant has the better team, but I think Jo Byrns has enough coaching to beat them. Should be a heck of a game.

So you predict a sweep in favor of region 5. Boy, when a region 6 poster gets on here and predicts a sweep for region 6 they are chastised. I must say though I have never seen anyone score a partial point. Your theory must be flawed. Go back to the drawing boards!!

I didn't interpret these numbers as score predictions, but as a ranking system. Higher numbers representing better teams. Is that incorrect?

A few things that will need to change before Cascade makes a deep run in the playoffs:

1.) The Batts kid will have to be moved back to safety and the best option off the bench inserted at linebacker until the Gaithright kid comes back..(probably McPheron,Martin, or Harvey).

2.) Better communication in the secondary.. Too many kids running uncovered the other night.

3.) The QB needs a hot read on every play. Jo Byrns was blitzing linebackers and the only time they threw to Marable on a quick slant, it was successful.

4.) QB needs to do a better job of recognizing blitzes and call audibles when situation dictates it. Need to vary snap count more also. J.B. was getting way to good a jump to not get them offside a couple of times with count variation.

5.) Have to go deep a couple of times early in games rather than wait until your down to try and throw the ball. Pass plays have a lot better chance of being successful when the defense isn't anticipating it.

6.) Better overall tackling. Some kids aren't wrapping up and are going for the knock out punch. Need to do a better job of swarming to the ball.

7.) Receivers need to recognize when the QB is in trouble and break patterns off to help QB out when he is scrambling. This team is not good at getting open to help the QB. I was at the game last week and noticed several times the QB had plenty of time to throw and there was no one open.

8.) The play has to come in quicker from the sideline. If the QB could get up to the line of scrimmage and get a better pre-snap read, it would make a world of difference! Several times last week, the play came in so late, the QB practically had to run to the line of scrimmage and get the snap before the clock ran out. This also plays into the hands of the defense because they know you are going on one and can get a great jump off the line.

9.) Use the Tight end and backs out of the backfield more in the passing game. Cascade has an excellent line which dictates that most teams have to bring linebackers to get any pressure on the QB. If they threw to the tight end over the middle or a back on a middle screen that play is there most of the time. I know it was attempted a couple of times last week, but the timing seemed to be off.

Cascade has a top five team talent wise from what I've seen, but several small things are preventing them from reaching potential. Hopefully some of these suggestions will be taken under consideration.

Streak ends Friday.......Moore County by 10!

35-7 cascade Nick Batts two td runs... and no I dont have any inside info thats just my prediction and the middle school is going to beat forrest mark my word

Has Batts been approved to play for Friday? If so, you might want to up that score for Cascade. I saw this kid last night and he is the real deal! One of the best talents I've seen at this level.

Does Forrest plan to host a Jamboree this season and if so does anyone have the schedule?

Anyone have any information on whether or not Forrest will be hosting a jamboree this year? What Jamboree's will all region 5 teams play in and what is the schedule for your particular jamboree? Thanks

Forrest will play the loser between East Robertson and Nashville Christian and the winner of that game gets Cascade. Should be some good matchups!

QUOTE(SOMA72 @ Mar 29 2007 - 11:29 AM) 826425755[/snapback]Absolutely!

Everyone knows there was a meeting called to complain about Mike and the administration. They did however invite the administration but in true coward style they did not invite Mike to be present to defend himself. Some of the parents thought they were suppose to attend the meeting because they thought it was a "team meeting" and had no idea what they were walking into.... I find it very odd that for 20 years no one really had any trouble or complants that would warrent taking his job from him until he decided to play freshmen and an eigth grader over the Sophomores. The parents did not care if the team won or lost as long as their kids were on the floor. They feel because their kid is older he should get to play more. Even if it ment losing the game... They should take a long look at the stas or the game film and look at who is making the points, rebounds and assists, before they kick and scream, however I don't think they even care. I hope in 10 years when their kids are not playing ball and life goes on, they are happy with the desision they made.

The sole reason was him being dismissed was not certain people having a vendetta against Mike as you are implying. It was more of a decision based on productivity of the team. This was not the first time an attempt was made to get him replaced at Community. I don't think any parents had a personal issue with Coach Edmonson. I'd say you'd have a hard time finding anyone who would say anything bad about the man. As is the case in this profession, results determine your longivity and quite frankly the program has underachieved for a long time. Whether that is entirely Mike's fault or not, is questionable, but when you are the top guy, you have to accept that responsibility. Everyone in this profession understands that as I'm sure Mike does. The idea that he was released because certain kids didn't get the playing time they deserved is way off base and merely sour grapes. I think a change for both Mike and the team will hopefully rejuvenate both. Good luck to Mike in his next job and good luck to the Vikings next season!

QUOTE(gosaints10 @ Mar 21 2007 - 12:55 PM) 826419440[/snapback]I agree totally with your comments and think it will be very difficult to monitor and enforce.

 

That said, I believe part of the impetus was to prevent High School coaches from "forcing / strongly recommending" that their school athletes play on a "high school sponsored team" (potentially coached by a volunteer associated with the high school and wearing the high school uniforms) during the summer travel ball. Reason being is that does two things that are deemed unfair: a) it's like additional practice for the high school team and extending the season by playing travel ball tournaments (in 16U or 18U), and /cool.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="B)" border="0" alt="cool.gif" /> it put some kids in a situation where they felt they had to play on that team (because their high school teammates all were doing it and their coach expected it) vs. playing on a more competitive travel ball team during the summer. The latter being potentially bad for the athlete----particularly a star athlete that really was better served playing on a "Gold" / "College Exposure" type team that could qualify and go to bigger tournaments-----as opposed to a high school team that's playing 16u/18u ball in local / regional tournament formats. Thus, there's a perception that the high school team has an unfair advantage (more time playing together for the team) AND, on the flip side, those high school that "require that" may put undue pressure on a college-bound athlete to participate on a team that's not going to compete at the level during travel ball that's best for them.

 

Again, high school coaches aren't supposed to coach after a certain date and there really is no "high school sponsored teams" because they all have to be affiliated/register with USSSA, ASA, USFA, or one of the other governing bodies to play but the reality is there are high school teams competing in these tournaments with a volunteer coach and they simply registered the team through their local city youth athletic association.

 

I am aware of some specific situations where this was the case, however, I don't have specific knowledge that this is what drove this crazy new rule. I think this rule will probably address those two things above but will unfortunately create strife for a bigger population of athletes--- particular those in non-metro areas that simply want to play competitive ball in local tournaments during the summer.

More questions:

Some of the smaller schools have 8th graders playing with their varsity. My question is are you expected to count potential Varsity players toward the 50% rule for next season? An example would be a 14U team containing 4 girls who are currently seventh graders, but intend on trying out for the varsity team next season as eighth graders and two 8th graders who are currently on the varsity team? You could potentially have a total of six varsity players for the upcoming season together. There is no way of knowing how many of them, if any, will make the team, so I'm assuming this rule only applies to girls who have already made the Varsity team in the past.

I hesitate to write this, because some boys will probably suffer retaliation as a result. But, as a dad and mom (2 people I like and respect) with a son on the team pointed out to me, we have an obligation to speak out about this, it is an ethical issue.

 

Union...cut it out with the "bashing" thing. No one is bashing the coach, and no parents are forming groups to get the coach. He stepped way over the line, well intentioned or not, between personal relationships and basketball decisions. The parents of the better and more experienced players are justifiably upset. So is anyone who wants to see the boys treated fairly and the team do well. No one cares about the past good or ill. Its not all about the coach you know.

 

There are very few 8th graders pulled up to varsity, none that start and almost none that get any playing time to mention. Young Edmonson, while a good middle player had no where near the talent to justify the move. The middle school team needs him and the varsity does not.

 

Cody and Kyle, while good middle players are no where near good enough to start or get the playing time they get. How many freshman get any time at all. There are many in the district who are much better than these two who never see the court. Their status on the team has nothing to do with their ability, it is due to their relationships...it can't get any more wrong than that. That is not a knock on the boys by the way. I can't believe you said it does not matter who starts! Of course it does, and it matters who plays.

 

You might make a point if the team had been weak at guard, but it is not. XXX and YYY are so much better than the three anointed ones that it isn't even close. The plan to play a pushover schedule and start those boys blew up in the 1st qtr of the 1st game. Everything since has been an attempt to justify it, including the wrong being done to ZZZ, who you may remember started the 1st game at the 3 because he earned it. The boys are being treated unjustly and the team is hurting because of it.

 

That is a fact, not bashing, if the truth hurts so be it. As cascade 11 said the only way to make this right is to play the best 5 players. That will never happen of course. This team exists to give 3 boys and unearned chance to play varsity ball, and no one in authority cares about the talent, ambitions, and dreams of some fine boys who are learning that it is who you know and not what you do that counts. Let me see, that is the lesson we have public school sports teams to teach, right.

I'm neither a parent of any child at this school or a fan. I'm only an outside observer. I find it hard to believe that the first line of this is true. I can't believe any legitimate Coach would take playing time away from a Child because their parent spoke up against the Coach. Surely Coach Edmonson has more character than to do something like that. Do you have any evidence this has happened in the past?

At any rate, I have heard of dis-gruntled parents at other schools call for the removal of a Coach and it typically gets very ugly. Has anyone at this school suggested a CLOSED parent/coach meeting to settle some of the obvious issues that have been discussed on here? I think if someone close to your Coach would suggest this it would go along way toward mending wounds. There is nothing better than a good heart-to-heart discussion to clear the air and if ALL parents are present then there could be no "retaliation" that you speak of because everyone would be there to witness what was said.

Refuge I totally disagree. The team is doing fine. What difference does it make who starts? Each kid that normally plays got to play. If the team implodes it will be because parents are forming a group to try and get the coach. This means these kids go home and hear thier parents bash the coach and then go and try to play for him. Just imagine what is going through the kids mind. Coach has been there close to 20 years and he is going to put the best 5 on the floor regardless of who they are and for that I salute him.

Twenty years with a school does not qualify someone as a good coach, only a popular coach. Small communities are typically more tolerant of an underachieving team if the Coach is good with the kids and a good educator to boot. I think Edmonson fits these criteria. An un-objective person can not honestly call him a good Coach though. He inherited some good teams when he first arrived consisting of kids like Troy Yoes, Troy Harrison, Bob Mitchell to name a few. Since the sub-state run with Yoes, they haven't had another team that could compete. You have to ask yourself, has Unionville had a 15 year drought on talent or is he just a bad Coach? I'll let you be the judge of that. I think Edmonson has survived all these years because of his popularity. Now that partiality in the form of his son was introduced this season, people aren't going to tolerate his less than successful Coaching.

Basically you have to be one of two Coaches to survive in High School. One is a popular, well liked Coach and the other is an extremely successful one. With the current problems he has created by making his son the first 8th grader to not only play on the varsity team, but also start he has set himself up for the mutiny that is happening. Hopefully he realizes before its too late that this was a bad decision from the start and corrects it.

Hope both teams have a safe and injury free game.

This game has already been played and MP was beaten badly. It is fun to go back and read through the pre-game talk after-the-fact though.....

Anyone got an update on their Coaching situation? Have they had any interviews with anyone we might recognize?

Most coaches have some standard for conditioning and any serious male high school athlete ought to be able to meet that standard, a 7 minute mile, without much trouble at all. As for playing favorites, every coach that has ever lived has been accused of that whether there is any real evidence of it or not. Of course fans and parents aren't ever guilty of having favorites.

Fans and parents aren't getting paid. Every Coach has not been accused of it. When coaching one's child you have to be aware this is a possibility and Coach accordingly. The worse thing you can do is alienate the child from his teammates by putting him in a position he isn't ready for.

With what Cascade has returning, I'd expect them to be the favorite next year. Forrest, Jo byrns and Eagleville also should be pretty good.

All i know is the best thing about 9a is the lady rockets. State Champions!!!!!!! The boys teams have some good games they just need better coaching. I think Davy does the best job!!!!

I'm pretty sure CoachT provides a GIRLS basketball forum......you may want to check it out.