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  1. 6 minutes ago, cowcatcher said:

    CBG is always the man of reason supporting his stance with FACTS!

    I know everyone has their own strong opinion and there are definitely valid stances to both sides of this, but personally, I have loved the 3 division split. Let's be real, if we had one division, Cleveland and Baylor would win the state almost every year with someone like a Father Ryan stealing one once every 10 years or so. 

    The split gives you a reason to get excited for a matchup like Pigeon Forge v. Greeneville. Otherwise, that match means nothing to anyone outside of G'ville and PF if it's all just one big division. That said, I don't think anyone in Single A would argue that it's as hard to win a small school title as it is in AA or DII, but some of the studs like the G'ville big 4, Lance Williams, the Uhorchuk brothers, Caleb Wolfe, and a healthy Foreman would all have a chance to win the other divs. Single A just isn't as deep. Many of those guys won't even wrestle a 6 min. match in the state tournament. You can also argue many of the Single A multi-time champs may not even win a title in the other divs., but I am still a proponent of it being a good thing for TN wrestling. How cool would it be to see a All-Star tri meet though between the A, AA, and DII champs a week after the season?! 

    Middle TN Ref association tried to do this a couple years back. TSSAA would not allow it to be a straight up dual team of each division so kids would have had to be sprinkled in randomly on each team but you would still get to see the individual matchups. We were going to have a +3or 5 weight allowance but ultimately we could not get guys to commit. Now you have the D2 guys going to the Preps the week of D1 state, they will not want to wrestle another weekend after that in a All-Star dual. We purchased singlets, coaches shirts and everything but ultimately it fell flat on its face. Location was going to be at Oakland high. (central to everyone in the state.) Sounds good on message boards but too many logistical issues to overcome.    

  2. The NWCA would like to congratulate Tony DeAngelo of Lakeway Christian Academy for winning the Boys Head Coach of the year.

    The Cleveland High school Coaching staff is the assistant staff of the year. Assistant Coaches for Cleveland High are John Weiss, Jacob Murphy, Landon Reed, And Wilson Benefield.

    Great job to all Coaches this year. I know it was a difficult year and all coaches should be celebrated for making it through this year. If your son or daughter is a wrestler, take a moment to shoot your child's coach a quick email and thank them for all the hard work they put into making this season happen.

     

    -Andrew Hedges

    NWCA TN Chairman  

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  3. State duals will be held at different venues most likely in high schools in Williamson county. The field for each tournament will be cut in half with a sectional round put in there so that AAA will be an 8 team bracket A/AA 4 teams and so on. Two sites for AAA with four teams one mat and very little if any overlap of teams in the venue. The TSSAA is doing their homework and I guarantee they are working tirelessly to make a dual event and traditional event take place. There will be tournaments unless Gov. Lee shuts schools down again like he did last March. 

    There are still a lot of details that have to be sured up in order for things to be finalized and that is why TSSAA has not put out any information yet. 

    Unfortunately there will probably contact tracing that takes a toll on some teams/individuals in-between the regionals and states. I hope that doesn't come into play but the traditional tournament will be smaller for AAA it will likely be a 16 man bracket. With the top two from each region going. I just hope that all AAA regions wrestle for a true 2nd and that they are able to substitute a state qualifier if a top two finisher was to be quarantined and unable to go to state give the true 3rd place finisher the ability to represent that region at state. Lots of logistical issues that the TSSAA is trying to figure out. I was extremely impressed when listening to Mark Reeves talk about all the work the TSSAA has done in order to ensure we have post season events for wrestling. 

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  4. All coaches at every level are encouraged to register and attend our virtual conference Nov. 6th and 7th. Even if you can not attend the sessions live, when you register, you will have access to the content for 3 months! Here is a list of the sessions that will take place. The cost for registering is only $5. 

     

    https://twc.coachesinsider.com/  

     

    Speaker Name School/Organization Session Title Live Presentation Time
    Jenna Morris Tullahoma High School How to build a successful Girls Wrestling Program 4pm CST/5pm EST on the 6th
    Ben Smith & Steve Logsdon Bradley Central High School From the Ground Up 6pm CST/ 7pm EST on the 6th
    Benji Gray Page High School Wrestling within an Athletic Department 7pm CST/8pm EST on the 6th
    Mark Reeves TSSAA NFHS/TSSAA Rules Meeting - State Updates 10am CST/11am EST on the 7th
    PA Bowler/ Ryan Simmons/Andrew Hedges MTWOA Assigning Officer/TSSAA Official/ NWCA TN Chairman Interacting with Officials, you may be asking the wrong questions. 5pm CST/6pm EST on the 6th
    Brian Smith University of Missouri Head Wrestling Coach Q&A with Brian Smith 1pm CST/2pm EST on the 7th
    Kyle Ruschell UT-Chattanooga Head Wrestling Coach Q&A on training cycles and schedules 9am CST/10am EST on the 7th
    Heath Eslinger A Better Way Athletics Inviting Parents on The Jouney 8AM CST/ 9AM EST on the 7th
    Jason Grindstaff Cumberland University Mental Reps for Strengthening Mental Toughness and Focus 8pm CST/9pm EST on the 6th
    Terry Grindstaff Creighton University Management of Common Wrestling Injuries 11am CST/12pm EST on the 7th
  5. The National Wrestling Coaches Association would like to congratulate the following Coaches and assistant staffs for winning these state level awards. All TN head coaches were given the opportunity to vote the nominated coaches. They narrowed the field down and a select panel comprised of former coaches from across the state voted on the finalists. 

    Wes Idlette from Dobyns Bennett High is the Boys Head Coach of the year
    Jenna Morris from Tullahoma high is the Girls Head Coach of the year
    Bradley Central High School (Coaches; Blackmon, Anglin, Catlett, Cordell, Ensminger, Eshenbrenner, Hicks, Mathews, and Storrs) won the Boys Assistant Coaching staff of the year
    Collierville High School (Mary Catherine Correia) won the Girls Assistant Coaching staff of the year
     
    These coaches bios and accomplishments from this year will be sent on to the NWCA to be considered for Regional and National award consideration. Congratulations to these coaches and thank you to all the coaches across the state. Your tireless work is what helps grow our sport and develop our young men and women into the best student athletes they can be! 
     
     
    -Andrew Hedges
    TN NWCA Co-State Chairmen
  6. The NWCA is excited to announce that we are launching a new Scholastic Girls Coach of the Year Awards program for each of the seventeen states that are sponsoring a championship, an invitational, or a pilot program.  (States: Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Georgia, Hawaii, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Missouri, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Carolina, Oregon, Tennessee, Texas, and Washington)

     

    In this inaugural year we will not have sectional winners.  The state winners will be finalist for the National Coach of the Year.

     

    For Tennessee, the winners are Kayla Sharp-Estep, Northwest High School (Head Coach of the Year)

    Brad Warren, Rossview High School (Assistant Coach of the Year)  

     

    Congrats to these two!

     

  7. The National Wrestling Coaches Association has selected their Tennessee Head Coach of the year and their Assistant Coach of the year. Each Region throughout the state in Division 1 A-AA, AAA, and Division 2 was given the opportunity to nominated coaches for consideration. A ballot was sent out to all head coaches throughout the state to narrow the field. The top 4 vote getters where then put on a ballot and the board for the TN chapter of the Hall of Fame voted for this years winners. 

     

    Congratulations to John Kramer- Wilson Central High School for being selected as the Head Coach of the Year. Also Congratulations to Patrick Simpson- Montgomery Bell Academy for being selected as the Assistant Coach of the year. 

     

    There were many outstanding coaches up for this award! Tim Marshall- TN High, Ben Nelson- Baylor School, and Josh Peck, Nolensville High were finalists for Head Coach. Todd Worley- Hixson High and Will Greening- Tennessee High advanced to the second round of votes for Assistant Coach of the year.  

     

    Please fill free to reach out to me if there is anything the N.W.C.A. can help with. If you are a head coach in Tennessee and did not get a ballot, Please email me at andrew.hedges@wcs.edu so I can update my email list of Head Coaches. I pulled emails from the list that Chris Vandergriff sends out. 

     

    Thanks, 

    -Andrew Hedges- TN Chair N.W.C.A.

     

     

  8. 39 minutes ago, WrestlingGod said:

    It'd be easier to rank middle school teams in each area of the state as opposed to the state as a whole. Middle school seasons are weird. In Williamson Co, for example, the season is only 6 weeks (it was just voted on and approved to extend to 8 starting next year) from the first practice to the county championships. It runs from about the end of October to the beginning of December. They don't get a whole lot of competition outside of the county because most schedules run at different times. It's annoying.

    You just have to be creative in your scheduling. In my 6 years in Williamson county. I have gotten dual matches with Cleveland, Mt. Juliet, West Wilson, Nashville Catholic, Siegel, Stewarts Creek, Spring Hill, McCallie, Dickson, Blackman, Richview, MBA, FRA, BGA, Harding Academy, and BA. Sometimes things line up right for a particular year and other years they don't. We get 20+ duals in our season and then send our kids into club. We have a handful of kids that just go to club practice and prefer not to compete during the club season. The Wilco season is short 7 weeks this past year from start to finish, however I would rather have it in the late fall then the way Hamilton County does it.... I also prefer our divided season as opposed to what metro does. 

  9. On 12/9/2018 at 12:43 PM, cbg said:

    No.  If the official stops the match the proper official mechanics are to award one (1) point for illegal maneuver immediately if they are going to award a point and begin the 2 minutes of recovery time.  If the wrestler is not able to continue he/she shall be awarded the victory.  If the wrestler is injured but no illegal move took place the official shall stop the match, not award any points, and begin injury time of two (2) minutes.  If the wrestler is not able to continue after the injury time expires his opponent shall be declared the winner.  With all of this being said I have watched officials allow the coach to talk them into making the call an illegal move and not an illegal move during the recovery/injury time but that is not the way it should be called.

    Everything is correct except for the injury time. It is only 1 1/2 minutes of injury time. 

  10. 48 minutes ago, WrestlingGod said:

    Rossview beat Centennial 46-24 on Saturday at the Slamfest and won the Coyote Classic on 12/1 by 71 points over Summit in 2nd.

     

    I admire your attempt though.

    Centennial actually won the Coyote Classic. You did not separate the team scores, When looking at the results. 

      Team Season Team Abbr Count Points
    1   Centennial, TN  Centennial, TN (GET) CENT 12 161.5
    2   Franklin, TN  Franklin, TN (GET) FRAN 12 137.5
    3   John Overton, TN  John Overton, TN (GET) JOOV 12 117.0
    4   West Creek, TN  West Creek, TN (GET) WECR 10 115.0
    5   Rossview, TN  Rossview (Girls), TN (GET) ROSS 14 114.5
    6   Nolensville High School, TN  Nolensville High School, TN (GET) NVIL 10 99.0
    7   Summit, TN  Summit (Girls), TN (GET) SUMM 13 99.0
    8   Caldwell County, KY  Caldwell County, KY (GET) CALC 8 98.0
    9   Cane Ridge, TN  Cane Ridge, TN (GET) CARI 5 68.0
    10   Sycamore, TN  Sycamore, TN (GET) SYCA 12 62.0
    11   Hillsboro, TN  Hillsboro, TN (GET) HILL 5 56.0
    12   Ravenwood, TN  Ravenwood, TN (GET) RAVE 7 49.0
    13   Dickson Co., TN  Dickson Co., TN (GET) DICO 4 39.0
    14   Hunters Lane, TN  Hunters Lane, TN (GET) HULA 7 32.0
    15   Independence, TN  Independence, TN (GET) INDE 5 30.5
    16   Northeast, TN  Northeast, TN (GET) NORT 11 26.0
    17   Northwest, TN  Northwest, TN (GET) NWES 3 26.0
    18   Montgomery Central, TN  Montgomery Central, TN (GET) MOCE 8 22.0
    19   Kenwood, TN  Kenwood, TN (GET) KENW 8 21.5
    20   Martin Luther King, TN  Martin Luther King, TN (GET) MLK 3 12.0
    21   Calloway County, KY  Calloway County, KY (GET) CACO 7 10.0

     

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  11. I watched the match on the live stream. Father Ryan should consider having another person do commentary for their matches. The commentator should probably join up and officiate, I know every area is always looking for referees. For a great program like Father Ryan to have their commentator openly berate the officials and even some of the wrestlers is a poor reflection on their program. Stalling is going to occur more in a contested rivalry match like that since kids that are a little outclassed at a weight are being coached to keep the bout to a decision and not to give up bonus points. Who cares about a spectator who has a son that wrestles in college and his opinion, if he feels so strongly about his comment he can join up and officiate as well. You guys are hilarious. 

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  12. Pigeon forge got hosed at state duals. I don't know what's worse, the action by red banks coach, or that the ref fell for it. A real shame something like that can happen at the state championship

    The PF kid applied an illegal back bow to the Red Bank wrestler, the referee immediately called it as such. It was a shame that the Red Bank wrestler could not continue but the referee properly called that situation. 

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    Fellas, Thanks for your unabashed criticism. It makes me want to keep posting here.... I am not a coach so I am still learning. As to the other folks who gave their thoughts without insult, thank you.

     

     

    If you spent half the time looking into the rule as you did editing and making that video you would have learned that the referee made the right call. 

  14. This is correct ruling.

     

    However, I would like to comment that the officiating was horrendous.   These wrestlers deserve better.  These kids work hard all year to only have an incompetent official call the match and cost a wrestler a match.  It is not fair to the wrestler or their team.  The officiating crews are getting thinner and thinner and the lack of good officials seems to diminish with each passing year.  IMHO, in about 4 or 5 years, wrestling will really be suffering from quality officiating.

    The token, thread of "state officials were terrible" has started. It happens every year. The only thing that you said that was correct about officiating is that the numbers are down, they are down all over the nation. Threads like this don't do anything to help the sport.

     

    Posting that video and not even knowing the proper interpretation of the rule is an embarrassment on your part Mat73...

     

    Facenthecrowd how can new officials be recruited and developed? Instead of offering your humble opinion about how the current officials are missing the mark come up with solutions...... 

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  15. How can you have 3 points deducted for an assistant coach being ejected?  It looks like Baylor has a murders row from 160 lbs to HWT.

     

    Details please?????

     

    Props to both teams for wrestling this match.  Glad to see Bradley wrestling the best private schools in Chatt town.  This match will only make Bradley and Baylor better later in the year when it really counts for their state tournaments.

     

    These 2 teams will have something to say who wins the state championships in February.

    The first unsportsmanlike penalty is one team point the second requires an ejection of that coach and 3 teams points are deducted. 

  16. How do all of these programs compare? Have they faced each other this year? Are all of these true middle school teams or club teams?

    Page is a true middle school team, they had wins over all the Williamson county middle schools this year, in addition to MBA, BA, Mt. Juliet, Beech, FRA, Harding Academy, and McCallie. They did lose to Cleveland middle 48-24. 

  17. As a Centennial parent, I AM disappointed. I understand there were several kids sick and a few injuried. I personally don't think the right choice was made, but whatcha gonna do ... Hope the coach learns and makes better choices as he continues his high school coaching career? This is the difference between a middle school coach and a seasoned high school coach. Why would you not take the kids you have and let them wrestle? Over the break we wrestled against a team in a duals tournament that showed up with just five kids. It's not like you can replace this tournament with another one. I have to say what is most disturbing is that I have a senior who was beyond disappointed that he had no control over this decision and a coach who just doesn't get it.

    As a Centennial Parent, shouldn't you air your disappointment to your coach in a private setting than air it out in a public forum. Sounds like a middle school parenting move to me...

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