StudentoftheGame

I`ll repost what I posted in the 1st page of this thread The idea that the Wing-T offense is not effective because no 4A or 5A team has won the state championship running the Wing-T is ridiculous and flawed logic in my opinion. First off it takes more than an offensive system in order to win a state championship, there is no almightly offense that if adapted will lead a team to a state championship, the offense is just one part. Now there are only a certain number of teams running the Wing-T offense in this state period, of those teams how many are capable of winning a state championship no matter what offense they chose to run? The pool of teams that even have the resources capable to win the state championship are small to begin with, even small in that group are teams running the Wing-T. So the chances of a team winning the state championship that runs the Wing-T is small no matter what because of how few teams run the Wing-T to begin with.

What is your explanation then for teams in the highest classifications in CA, TX, OH, and Ga winning state championships running the wing-t? Now this is just my observation but it seems to me that some Riverdale fans are using the wing-t as a scapegoat for Riverdale's "problems." The wing-t is what you make it(which is the beauty of the offense to begin with) if you want to burn the clock, shorten the game, keep the score close you can do it running the wing-t. If you want a high powered, high scoring offense, you can have it running the wing-t. If a coaches philosophy is very conservative it doesn`t matter if you're running the I-formation, the veer, or the Wing-t. The wing-t can be adapted/modified to play any style of offense that a coach wants. If you're biggest problem with the wing-t is that the plays are side to side than you need to blame your play caller not the wing-t, there are plenty of inside traps, FB dives, and zone blocking plays disigned for nothing but quick hitters up the middle. Heck I`ve seen teams motion a wing back behind the FB and PRESTO you have a standard I-formation look with the added factor of the 2nd wingback still there for any "standard" wing-t plays you want to run. Tired of having everyone log jammed around the ball? Fine move both wingbacks out and you now have a 4WR spread look drop your QB back and pass to your hearts content, you still have the FB in the backfield for any inside running you want to do, or you can fake to the FB out of this look and run option to either side since you now have pitchmen on both sides. I literally could go on for hours on how you could transform the standard wing-t into anything you wanted to do. All the pieces necessary are there in the wing-t, its up to the individual coach to utilize what is at his disposal. Any kind of program or team can run the wing-t, ones with lots of talent, or teams that doesn`t have alot. The wing-t is what you decide to use it for, it is the tool, not the system as a whole.

You hit the nail on the head, I don`t think most wing-t detractors understand how flexible the wing-t can be. When Alcoa and Jefferson County were running the wing-t there would be times when they would come out 4 wide in the shotgun and just walk down the field. Those two wing backs can easily be turned into two slot WR's in a spread look. Or you can do the opposite, come in in 4 WR, then motion one or both slot guys into the backfield and run you regular looks. Just about anything any other offense does can be reached in the wing-t, the principles and assignments may be different, but the key elements will remain. If teams don`t pass out of the wing-t its because they don`t want to, not because its not possible or effective out of the wing-t.

The people of Jefferson County seem to be as happy as you are they Euverard is gone, considering they made the playoffs this past year /roflol.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":roflol:" border="0" alt="roflol.gif" />

So we should believe that the De La Salle's and Cal Poly's of the world don`t have equal talent?

Morristown West lost a great coach, but they`ll be in good hands of they do the smart thing and hire Lamarr Brown who has turned down other opportunities to stay at MW.

The idea that the Wing-T offense is not effective because no 4A or 5A team has won the state championship running the Wing-T is ridiculous and flawed logic in my opinion. First off it takes more than an offensive system in order to win a state championship, there is no almightly offense that if adapted will lead a team to a state championship, the offense is just one part. Now there are only a certain number of teams running the Wing-T offense in this state period, of those teams how many are capable of winning a state championship no matter what offense they chose to run? The pool of teams that even have the resources capable to win the state championship are small to begin with, even small in that group are teams running the Wing-T. So the chances of a team winning the state championship that runs the Wing-T is small no matter what because of how few teams run the Wing-T to begin with. Plus when you look outside of this state the no championships argument goes out the table, Coach Jim Dorsey at McEachern High School is one the most successful coaches in the the state of GA, Coach Jeff Herron at Camden County High School also in GA has destroyed records running the Wing-T offense, Coach Gordon Wood at formerly at Helix High school in CA ran the Wing-t, both Reggie Bush(yes the New Orleans Saints Reggie Bush) and Alex Smith(yes the SF 49ers Alex Smith) played in a Wing-T offense. Bellevue High school in Washington which is the school that ended De La Salle's 151 game winning streak, guess what offense they run? Butch Goncharoff the Coach that installed the offense at Bellevue is 81-7, and has won 5 of 6 state championships. Second its my belief that there is no modern offense that precludes a team from winning, there are offenses that better suit teams, but to take the next step in saying that you can`t win if you run a certain offense is false. No you probably should`t be running a spread offense if you don`t have QB capable of making plays, and WR's that can catch, and you probably shouldn`t be running the I-Formation with tiny linemen and a RB that should be playing WR. If you have the talent and your players fit the scheme, the style of offense is not going to preclude you from winning. Now people often like to say that teams run the Wing-T to hide their weaknesses in areas, while that may be true for some teams that is not the only way to look at it. You can run the Wing-T to maximize your players strenghts, if you have multiple good RB's, athletic linemen, and a smart QB you can run through teams at will. I think one the major things people don`t realize is that there are different versions of the Wing-T floating around. People see an offense with wing backs packed in close to the line, 1 WR, where the play always goes where the guards go and think that is what the Wing-T offense is all about. That style of Wing-T is one of a few different styles, Coach Aydelott(formerly of Hillsboro, now at Riverdale) runs one style, Coach Scott Meadows(formerly of Alcoa, Jefferson County, now at William Blount) ran another before switching offenses this past year. Seeing how so few teams run the Wing-T and I currently live in east tennessee I`ve only see Coach Aydelott's style from afar. I`ve seen quite a bit of Coach Meadows style of offense(what people like to call the modified Wing-T) when he was at Alcoa and Jefferson County. Any assumptions that may exist about the Wing-T are debunked with the modified Wing-T, if you exclusively follow the guards you are likely to run yourself away from the ball, you are as likely to see multiple WR formations as you are 1 WR sets, high powered/high scoring offenses can be obtained running the wing-t(one of major knocks I`ve heard is that the wing-t is a ball control low scoring offense that is doomed if it doesn`t play with the lead). What that modified Wing-T Meadows has beaten Maryville, Dobyns-Bennett, Morristown West, Oak Ridge, Ooltewah, all very successful 4A and 5A teams. The bottom line in all of this is that a system can only take a team so far, there are a lot of other things involved in the success or failure of a team.