I agree 100% with you mr. cleats. ALso I have read some posts that make it seem as tho the players do not respond well to discipline, or hard work. That is stupid. Barger disciplined the team and worked them like crazy. The difference is that bartsch could never seem to go through a workout or practice without degrading a player, or making them feel worthless. Honestly, can any of you tell me that would want to play for a person like that, how can you show respect to him when this happens to you or your teammates?