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Fun match to watch between Harper and Petersen! Two great wrestlers!! Rematch will be a battle in the Cow Palace!

Unfortunately a couple of very questionable calls had a direct affect on the outcome. (Hands to the face on Petersen, locked hands on Petersen and stalling on Harper) Would like to have seen two officials on the mat this evening at Ryan, because the second official would have helped on the Harper locked hands debate and been able to give input, which could have changed the match and how both guys wrestled in the final 1:00 in a close match. It’s a tough job as an official especially when it comes to a call similar to that at the end of a high profile match between two of the State’s best!

Congrats to Baylor! They are loaded!

56 minutes ago, greendoor said:

It will be big if the Irish go 2-0 tonight.

IMO, no one in the State of Tennessee is beating Baylor in 2019-20.

Huge win for the Irish! 

Thomas Wesnofske is still out for Ryan at 132. 

It’s going to be a great weekend of wrestling at Father Ryan!

Can we get a breakdown from some of the top wrestlers at the Tournament from @durdon?? 

7 minutes ago, Bump11 said:

he was originally at McCallie i believe

I know McCallie got him to Chattanooga to wrestle, but I thought he started in Knoxville? (Similar to Cagle who won state at CAK and is now on the roster) 

46 minutes ago, durdon said:

Final Results 

Champion and named OW 

Cody Chittum - Blair 

3rd Place 

Cooper Flynn - Mcdonogh 

4th Place 

James Howard - McCallie 

6th Place 

Alex Whitworth - McCallie 

8th Place 

Trae Mcdaniel- Cleveland 

 

 

WOW! Thanks for the updates and congrats to all of the Tennessee kids! Isn’t Chittum originally from Knoxville?

51 minutes ago, greendoor said:

So is Christian Bros. In first.

At the moment in KC, Baylor is in 2nd place and Christian Brothers is in 15th place. 

Final: 
Father Ryan 45
Brentwood 30

Ryan had at least one starter out and not sure about Brentwood who might have had someone out as well. The fever/virus has crippled some of the Williamson County schools this week!

From Ryan, Eason and Miller put on a show and Finch from Brentwood won 3-1 in OT.

It would have been nice to see Johnny Mac vs Parker Petersen, but he bumped up to 220 and pinned a first year Ryan wrestler. 

Hindsight is 20/20, but if there was no chance for that match to decide the dual for the Bruins, it would have been nice to see the 195’s wrestle. Johnny Mac and Petersen might have been worth the price of admission!

Skylar Coffey is a beast! Any chance he and James Howard meet up?

Fun atmosphere! Good luck to the Bruins the rest of the year!

From Track:

Father Ryan 52 Arlington 22

Arlington 48 Fairview 28

Arlington 51 MBA 24

19 hours ago, durdon said:

If you went to the Father Ryan football last Friday against McCallie, you would have seen Cagle catching a ton of catches and scoring a few times. So yes, the Cagle family has moved to Chattanooga and Gavin is a student at McCallie and he will wrestle 170 this year. 

Thanks for the update! I didn’t make the trip to Chattanooga for the game, but enjoyed the first half until it turned into the BJ Harris show and it was game over!

4 hours ago, durdon said:

Ok, so then why are you even ranking the Heavyweights and other Big wrestlers if you think those kids aren’t really wrestlers?  If we waved a magic wand and Garrison was 285 and wrestled Coffee and Howard, who would win?   We have no idea, nobody does.  It’s all subjective. I’ve already said I think that Noah would win that magic wand competition but that just my subjective option.  I think Noah beats Garrison, Trae, Coffee and all the rest if they are the same weight.  Your magic wand is even more biased and subjective for this because you are biased against the big boys and you have a Baylor slant. 
 

Flo does there P4P mostly based off of who has the biggest upside for College so that’s one way to do it.  And if you do that then it’s Coffey and Howard who would be 1 and 2 cause if both those kids decide to wrestle in college they can go Big Ten or ACC will start and make the nationals. They are both sure bets.  But, TN doesn’t really have but a handful of D1 prospects so I don’t think we can rate our kids that way. 

Because the level of HS wrestling in TN is diluted with the 3 divisions and the depth is extremely weak we can’t use these kids in state results.  The only way to compare these kids is by how well these kids have performed at the top 10 major Nationals that college coaches look at exclusively. Because how these kids preform at major national against their top peers at their weight is something we can directly compare across all weights.  

if we are going to do a legitimate P4P ranking then the only way to do it is by results in National Tourneys. 
 

A couple of notes, 

It’s Cagle with a C and not a K and I never said he was better than Whitworth I said he pinned the kid that beat Whitworth in the Bloodround at NHSCA and finished 5th.  Most people haven’t seen Cagle wrestle.  He grew up in Ga and actually used to wrestle against Whitworth and Jaxon Smith all the time.  Moved to Costa Rica and trained with their national team for 2 years and did some international wrestling, then to Knoxville and won state without any partners in the room and placed at National Prep and NHSCA.  He is now Whitworth’s teammate and training partner and it will be exciting to see how much better those to make each other.  

Yes, Noah has lost a match in Tennessee. He lost to Hunter Boarders 2 years ago. It was a great win for Boarders. Noah and isabell have wrestled multiple times, and it’s never been close.  They won’t wrestle this year or probably ever again.  Isabell was at 45 at Super32 and Noah was at 26.  
 

Garrison lost more than 2 matches last season.   He did not place at the Grappler or Super32 last year.  So from fargo to Fargo he had 6 loses.   He also missed the KC stampede and Prep Slam because he was sick which were the only two really tough tourneys that Baylor went to during the season last year so his TN high school season wasn’t that stout.  This season he took 3rd at Fargo in Greco, 3rd at the Grappler and DNP at Super32. So, he has more losses.  Yes, at the Grappler he beat Alec Martin on the backside but he did lose to him on the frontside so he is 1-1 against the #5 kid.  Now Beating #4 Justin Rivera in sv on the backside at Grappler is legit huge win and great accomplishment.  I’m not saying all this to in anyway degrade Garrison.  I think he will end up being one of the best wrestlers this state has ever produced if not the best. You were just cherry picking his results to match your hypothesis that he should be number 1 so that’s the only reason I even bring it up.  He has as many losses as our other top kids. 
 

Trae Mcdaniel- seriously?  I get your rational why you downgraded the heavy’s.  I don’t agree with it but I get why.  But how in the world can you justify that Trae is not Number 1 on your list?   Two years ago, as first year cadet Trae Double Fargo AA.  From that point on until the next Fargo, Trae had one loss the entire season and that was at NHSCA where he finished 3rd.  So from Fargo to Fargo, Trae had 1 loss and Dendy had 6. And, Trae had a much tougher high school season than the schedule than most of the other kids in state had.  Heck even at state Tournament, Trae had to wrestle Ivy.  This Fargo Trae double AA again finishing 4 and 8th.  Trae was ranked by Flo at different times last year and he has wins against multiple nationally ranked kids too.  Don’t ask me who I don’t follow public school results hardly at all but I’m fairly certain he does. Trae is clearly the best pound for pound little in the state and it’s not even close. 
 

and Yes, if Cooper Flynn and Cody Chittum wrestled for a TN HS then yes Cooper would be #1 and Cody would be #2 and the separation between them and the rest wouldn’t be close.  Cooper is so far beyond any TN kids now it’s ridiculous.  

I have been out of the loop, but to clarify, Cagle who won state last season transferred to McCallie and eligible this season? 

Baylor 

On 8/29/2019 at 4:13 PM, Sommers said:

Looks like Baylor has a shot

Baylor is loaded. 

On 7/25/2019 at 1:14 PM, NotSurprised said:

Maybe I just miss you guys, but I would like to see who everyone thinks will have the most horsepower next season so I am going to list my WAY TOO EARLY team rankings. All divisions, because that's what actually matters.

 

1) Baylor

2) Cleveland

3) McCallie

5) Wilson Central (tied)

5) Bradley (tied)

 

This is my best guess. Baylor and McCallie have both added some studs this offseason. With what Cleveland graduated, McCallie may have a chance at taking that number two spot, but its hard to bet against Cleveland. WC and Bradley should both be solid. I believe Bradley has a strong 8th grade class. Who is adding studs to their lineup? Who is going to be the team to beat next year? Let me know! 

 

What transfers have Baylor and McCallie added this off-season? 

Father Ryan’s Parker Peterson finished 7th Place at the NHSCA Nationals and earned All American!

https://www.nhsca.com/page/2019NHSCAEvents

Good luck to Father Ryan’s, Trey Chalifoux at 125 for Army!

https://goarmywestpoint.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=13910

https://www.flowrestling.org/results/6365431-2019-national-prep-championships/25891

Semifinal Matchups

106: #15-Danny Wask (Blair) vs Jackson Bond (Baylor)

126: Noah Horst (Baylor) vs Skylar Smith (Liberty Christian)

145: Connor Kievman (Wyoming Seminary) vs Andew Pace (Baylor)

152: #14-Nico Incontrera (Blair) vs Alex Whitworth (McCallie)

170: #8-Mason Reiniche (Baylor) vs Luca Pontone (Belmont Hill)

182: #6-Jackson Turley (St. Christopher's) vs Connor Duffy (Baylor)

Lost in the Quarterfinals: 

120: Lachlan Mcneil (Wyoming Seminary) F Emory Taylor (McCallie School), 5:10

120: Trevor Mastrogiovanni (Blair Academy) TF Aiden Bowers (Christian Brothers), 15-0 4:18

132: Beau Bartlett (Wyoming Seminary) MD Nathan Wysong (McCallie School), 15-5

132: Shayne Vanness Blairstown, NJ (Blair Academy) F Garrison Dendy (Baylor School), 4:13

138: Jonathan Miers (Wyoming Seminary) DEC Garrett Bowers (Christian Brothers), 9-4

152: Nick Incontera Blairstown, NJ (Blair Academy) TF Lawrence Madson (Father Ryan), 16-0 2:44

160: Nicholas Feldman (Malvern Prep) MD Gavin Cagle (Christian Academy Of Knoxville), 15-4

170: Dominic Solis (Mcdonogh School) DEC Parker Peterson (Father Ryan), 5-3

182: Connor Duffy (Baylor School) F Thomas Sell (McCallie School), 2:41

195: Nicholas Florschutz (Malvern Prep) DEC David Harper (Baylor School), 4-1

Thanks for the update!!

Since the original post, I also saw where Parker Petersen (Father Ryan) upset the #4 seed from Wyoming Seminary, PA 3-2.

How are the Tennessee guys doing?

28 minutes ago, bestsport said:

First let me state I am Mason's Dad, and my perspective is obviously biased without trying. I do not know Parker Peterson at all. I couldn't tell you what kind of a young man he is....good or bad. However, I can say that during competition especially one that gets heated to the point referee(s) lose control, an athlete, coach and fan can get caught up in the situation and act/react in unfavorable ways and be judged by others only on those actions.

Last nights finals match was one of those matches. Both Mason and Parker appeared to get caught up in the moment and lose sight of what they were there to do...….and that's Wrestle. Parker appeared to be going backwards and/or circling the edge of the mat the entire 1st period. This of course got the Baylor fans excited and wanting a stalling caution. The strategy/style frustrated Mason of course because in his mind he had predetermined the outcome with him getting the early fall and ending his final High School State Tournament on a good note. The first head butt (rather intentional or incidental) really got the Baylor Fans going. And from the stands (which is where I sat) it honestly looked pretty bad. I could tell Mason seemed dazed and could only hope he keep himself in check on focus on the big picture. Unfortunately he had a momentary lapse and offered up a little shove at the end of the period to let Parker know who be was on the mat with. This in turn simply added fuel to the fire and got the Father Ryan faithful up in arms.

From here it just continued to escalate with (in my opinion) more brawling than wrestling. I'm all for hard hand fighting and aggressive wrestling to gain favorable position for a scoring opportunity. However, I didn't see really many attempts by parker to score only banging to keep Mason off balance and not in a good position to score. On the flip side Mason played into it and banged back trying to dig an underhook or utilize a hard snap, but not follow it up with solid leg attacks. Unfortunately for Mason he came out on the losing end of the brawl and suffered a couple more hard shots to face/head. Enough of them I feared the ref was going to stop the match due to Mason not fit to continue. This outcome would have most definitely been a tragic end to pretty darn good high school career.

Mason being hit with a stall call when working from top while parker smartly controlled his hands, again grew frustrated in addition to being dazed from repeated blows to the head/face, and determined against his coaches instructions (which were to simply ride him out and finish the match and limit the opportunity for more blows to the head) that he was going to let parker up and take him down. He did that, and got that crowd (both sides) more fired up.

The match ended and the score was 10-2 in favor of Mason. Neither Mason or Parker were happy with the results. I personally didn't see either wrestler do any gestures or unsportsmanlike actions after the match. I observed Mason recognize his cheering fans in an appreciative manner and give the freight train horn tug (that all of the Baylor finalists had done). I certainly observed him go shake Pat Simpsons hand as well as the other coaches. Now, I am uncertain if Coach Ben Nelson didn't see the original handshake or just didn't think one was enough but he made Mason go shake their hands again. I did notice Mason did not shake Parkers hand again as he offered one up as they exited the mat.

What happens next is a blur to me. I watched Mason leave the mat and go toward the fence where he was abruptly stopped by someone (which I was told later was a brother of an MBA wrestler...I wont name them), and that person blurted out derogatory comments directly at and to Mason along with some other dissatisfied fans including one on the Father Ryan coaching staff (not the two in the corner). This is when Mason reacted and completely lost control and had to be escorted back to refs lounge by another member of Baylor's coaching staff. I missed a lot of this as I was in the process of leaving my seat in the stands to get down there to be at my son's side and eliminate any further reactions.

Upon my arrival in the refs lounge, Mason was lying on his back. The bridge of his nose was bloody with tape on it, his cheek bone was cut and bleeding, and mouth was full of blood making all of his front teeth red. He was distraught and utterly confused as to why and how so many people hated him. He couldn't comprehend that grown individuals could be so hostile hanging over the railing yelling out awful things (things that I cannot repeat here) especially from a coach that he thought liked/respected him.

The saddest thing for me is I had no good response for him. There is not a good response to that question. Somebody else commented that the late Coach Jim Morgan wouldn't have tolerated his wrestler acting in such unsportsmanlike manner is correct, and neither would Coach Ben Nelson or any other Baylor coach on the staff. I personally don't think either Mason or Parker demonstrated unsportsmanlike manners while on the mat. I honestly don't think ill of Parker either. I truly think he simply had a game plan to survive against Mason early and still be there at the end with a chance to win. His strategy did come across as stalling for sure, and his aggressiveness did lend to pretty severe blows to Mason's head.

Its unfortunate and Mason most certainly did not want this experience for his last showing at the Tennessee State Tournament where he is a 5 time finalist and 3 time Champion. I hope and will do my best to turn this weird and terribly unfortunate incident into a positive learning experience for Mason moving forward.

And ScottOsters, I am absolutely positive that is exactly what Coach Jim Morgan would want!! 

Thanks for the post!

Congrats to Mason and the Reiniche family on an outstanding career! 

Best of luck at the next level representing the State of Tennessee!

23 minutes ago, mtnrasslin said:

Is the point here that an athlete should be punished for wanting to improve their opportunities both athletically and academically? It may come as a surprise to many on this board but there is much more to the decisions and sacrifices these families make than  only wrestling. If a school wants to compete then compete. Penalizing a kid because his family chooses to improve his educational opportunities is a pretty cheap way to do it. 

 Regarding the 170 match, it brought back memories of FR/Baylor matches of old- the name Provenzano rings a bell. If you believe that last night one side acted with exemplary sportsmanship, both on and off the mat, while the other one did not, you are mistaken. 

I remember that match very well and also remember the Ryan staff repainting two bathroom stalls after the racist comments and drawings were made by a Baylor fan or wrestler after the match. It was not a good moment for the school or the sport of wrestling in the State of Tennessee, but a lot of teaching moments off the mat on issues that we face in society by a small population of ignorant people. 

39 minutes ago, durdon said:

Bowers, Miller and Pace were the year before.  So there were 3 that year and there is a back story on all 3.  

This year there were only 2 transfers. 

Thanks for the clarification! 

9 minutes ago, durdon said:

Actually, there were only 2 transfers this year into D2 with kids that participated at the state tournament.  Wysong and Horst. It’s a long story on both but both kids were basically forced to a new schools this year because of the TSSAA rules. It’s normally 1 to 2 transfers a year into D2 and there is almost always a backstory on why those kids transfer into a D2 program outside of wrestling. 

Bates (Did not wrestle)
Bowers
Horst
Miller
Pace
Wysong

Any others? 

I mis-read, I thought it said Harper transferred from a HS in Georgia, but he is only a freshman.