takedown3
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QUOTE(MPHSTIGERS87 @ Apr 27 2007 - 03:17 PM) 826447070[/snapback]Thats the point, this new kid if he exist, cant live in Lewis Co or Lawrence Co and play football in MP unless he pays an outrages out of county fee. Whereas, any kid from anywhere can play at privates. Nobody said it was illegal, just an advantage over publics.
"Whereas, any kid from anywhere can play at privates" as long as they pay "outrageous" (outrages?) tuition.
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There's a good analysis in the Chattanooga Times-Free Press this morning. Based upon the questions asked and new justices, the author's opinion is that the TSSAA might come out on top this time because of concentration on the recruiting issue versus free speech. I'd copy but I think it would run afoul of Coacht's copywrite policy.
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QUOTE(supersteve17 @ Apr 25 2007 - 11:42 AM) 826445085[/snapback]I, too, share that concern. Don't you really believe that in most cases, excellence is the best "recruiting" tool ANY school/team can have? Many questions have swirled around some of the more successful public schools (Examples: boys' basketball - Whitehaven; football - Maryville, Alcoa, Riverdale; girls' basketball - Shelbyville, just to name a few), but I believe in virtually all of those cases, nothing shady has taken place. I believe that the excellence those coaches/programs have brought to the field or court has drawn students interested in pursuing excellence to those communities and/or schools.
In other words, excellence is a great drawing card.
But excellence takes a lot of work and time to achieve. It's much easier to remove your competition by placing them in other classifications.
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Which comment? KCHS' injecting a little cynicism or your quixotic quest for the ever illusive LEVEL PLAYING FIELD? As far as "me people" getting fired up, your poorly thought through arguments have supplied more fodder on this board than we've had in a long time. Your posts are kind of like a really bad wreck on the freeway. You don't want to look but morbid curiosity overcomes good sense.
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QUOTE(VolunteerGeneral @ Apr 24 2007 - 06:51 PM) 826444385[/snapback]I thought I`d post this here on this thread. Liberty High School has reached an overcrowding point and it`s inevitable that something has to be done. What is being proposed is that any student who is zoned for Liberty has the option to attend JCM or Southside if they so choose. So add JCM and SS to schools that can get kids from a larger area if this is approved.
What's with facts! Don't you know all you need to bring to coacht is opinions formed by a massive sense of victimhood.
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QUOTE(KCHSCoach @ Apr 24 2007 - 12:38 PM) 826444235[/snapback]Bottom line, if BA had gotten beat by Riverdale, or Jefferson County or any of those publics schools in the state finals, we would not be having this discussion, regardless what BA may or may not have done in regards to inviting kids that had signed a contract to attend BA in the first place. Lets be honest it was a witch hunt driven by envious football coaches and their lackeys at T$$AA.
I can't believe the level of cynicism you're injecting into this argument when everyone knows it's all about the LEVEL PLAYING FIELD and the need to segregate the evil 1) private schools, 2) magnet schools 3) urban schools 4) suspiciously successful public schools and 5) any other schools that might successully compete with MPHS'. I'm kind of getting the impression that ultimately the LEVEL PLAYING FIELD will only accomodate one school so as to insure that school's success.
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QUOTE(KCHSCoach @ Apr 24 2007 - 12:29 PM) 826444228[/snapback]Ok let me understand MPS or PMS, I think the fair thing to do is put all privates out, all magnets out, all schools in a city with a population larger than 100,000, put all schools out if the school population has over 50% parent involvment. Put out all schools where kids put in extra time and effort, or attend camps. Put out all schools that have more than one national merit scholar, maybe that would even the playing field.
You're catching on now. In the search for the LEVEL PLAYING FIELD, you have to be able to segregate Tennessee high schools by more and more criteria because, as we all know, life is always fair except in Tennessee high school athletics.
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QUOTE(MPHSTIGERS87 @ Apr 24 2007 - 06:09 AM) 826443972[/snapback]Did they have to pay out of county fees or out of state fees? Of course you can play anywhere you want if you have enough money. Small rural families cant afford to have that luxury unless "some people" are willing to flip the bill.
Look here buddy, you can attack me all you want but leave my son out of it. I dont want to get real ugly but I can. You cross a line when you attack family. If you dont like my opinions ignore them, but you wont, and I promise, you wont attack my family but one more time.
Gee, I was taking a stab in the dark that there actually is a MPHS JR. Of course I was writing metaphysically about "little Johnny's and little MPHS JR's" but if you want to take it litterally, be my guest. As far as you getting "real ugly", to use your words, you probably crossed that line at birth.
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QUOTE(VolunteerGeneral @ Apr 21 2007 - 08:27 PM) 826442593[/snapback]I think that pretty much sums it up. However, some magnet schools are 100% magnet and some are zoned/magnet. There could be some inequality there.
FCS...what a great post. I think you just showed the absurdivness of this whole discussion.
Sure it's absurd, but that's OK because in the pursuit of the ever elusive LEVEL PLAYING FIELD, there won't be a proposal too absurd for MPHS not to embrace. If it takes 20 divisions and 20 classes, the LEVEL PLAYING FIELD must be achieved for little MPHS JR. to have a successful high school athletic career. In the name of the LEVEL PLAYING FIELD, there's no limit to the amount of dilution Tennessee athletics can't stand to insure little Johnny or little MPHS JR won't bring home a state championship trophy. And after all, isn't that why our children participate in athletics?
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quote name='MPHSTIGERS87' date='Apr 23 2007 - 04:13 PM' post='826443601']
The biggest and largest is the fact they have no boundaries. Even schools with open zones have to stay in their county. All of your small private schools that are winning state championships are in large cities. Jackson and Nashville. There is no set area. MP has a small portion of a county to draw its kids from. I know thats not a TSSAA rule but the fact that a private can draw kids from anywhere is a different set of rules. I dont know if this is true, but I heard a few key players from JCS was not even from Jackson. If this is the truth there is nothing wrong with it, but it isnt the same rules that a MP or other rural school has to go by.
Students from Marion and Sequatchie counties attend Hamilton County schools.
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What if the coach's secretary sent the letter? What if, as was the case at Boyd Buchannan, the head football coach and the school principal were one in the same? If he sent out the letter on "principal" stationary as opposed to "coach" stationary, then would it have been acceptable? No, the "battle" is not over who sends letters, it's an issue of the First Amendment. And that's not my opinion, it's the opinion of at least two federal district courts and the first Supreme Court ruling.
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QUOTE(StanTrott @ Apr 15 2007 - 04:32 PM) 826438056[/snapback]In the spirit of keeping as many threads as possible going
in this forum, here is a link to the front page article:
Tennessean Front Page Article - April 15
There are three related articles.
You can hit these articles in the right margin of the webpage.
There are bios on the lawyers in this section.
It is very interesting who is supporting the TSSAA.
Everyone from the NFHS and the NCAA.
Case has U.S. audience
Treating private sports groups as government bodies worries several organizations such as the National Collegiate Athletic Association. It filed legal briefs arguing that such a definition would allow courts to meddle in its affairs.
On Brentwood Academy's side are 22 women's rights groups, led by the National Women's Law Center.
How does BA feel about being on the other side of the NFHS
and the NCAA is this battle? 22 women’s groups siding with a
private, evangelical high school! Maybe Billie Jean King will
testify for BA.
I hope the Tennessean will cover the case in D.C.
And speaking of Billie Jean King, her last sponsor was Snap-on-Tool.
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Get used to the BASSAA which will he located in the Carlton Flatt Building.
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Yeah, none of that controversial political stuff just high school athletics.
The more important question is, "Is the TSSAA thinking?"
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Not really. It's easier and more fun when he's here, metaphysically speaking of course. He's coacht's version of Alan Colmes, except he's not paid a lot of money to take nonsensical positions on any issue. Gee, I hope he doesn't read this. It'll make him mad.
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Based on MtP's posts it defies credulity that he could find his way to the beach. Please! No one tell him I posted this. He might go postal.
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QUOTE(MPHSTIGERS87 @ Mar 27 2007 - 02:02 PM) 826424161[/snapback]Sorry, I have learned to ignore your inmature, degrading, unchristianlike coments. I have better things to debate than your selfpleasure of tearing another person down. Does your christian school provide a course for that? Some of these private posters are really good at it. It had to be learned somewhere.
Just curious since you keep bringing it up; why would you think I had anything to do with an overtly Christian school? I don't. Unlike you, I can't read posters' minds to know what their religious beliefs are. That's quite a gift you have.
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QUOTE(BigG @ Mar 27 2007 - 06:58 AM) 826423707[/snapback]Wut duz that meen? /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":P" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />
MPHS, I will give you an "A" for tenacity. Your like that pitbull that wont let go of the stick no matter how hard you shake it. Most times that can be a good thing, but I also think we throw out some of the babies with the bath water (ok, I'll try and stop using analogies) Some of these guys have good points and arguments (as you do as well), but I think we have formed a deaf ear to them. I'm not saying these things to be critical, just as a friend pointing things out. I have learned a lot from opposing views here on coach T, and it has changed my opinions towards equity (mainly from Antwan about 3 years ago). While I didn't really like what he said, when I thought about it, it made pretty good sense (about population grouping in private schools)
So, take it for what it is worth (which isn't too much). Hope you have a good day, and I am still waiting on you to come to a game!
BigG, I was waiting who'd take the bait. I was sure I'd hook MP.
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QUOTE(Baldcoach @ Mar 26 2007 - 01:20 PM) 826423116[/snapback]*sigh*
I give. Someone else take a shot at explaining to him why his posts are much more insulting than playing pun games with his screen name, I tried.
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To paraphrase a current TV ad, "There's dense and then there's Coacht dense".
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QUOTE(MPHSTIGERS87 @ Mar 25 2007 - 04:44 PM) 826422314[/snapback]Again you show your true christian school colors. You should be proud of yourself. I hope my kid has problems spelling, but can be a nice genuine person. Thats the one subject publics are better than privates. Sorry I cant prove that, but its just my opinion.
Actually, my children attended relatively secular schools for middle and high school. They also attended public schools and a several were home schooled for awhile. If little else, you certainly have lots of opinions based upon all the topics on which you need to share them. Generally, opinions based upon a modicum of facts have more credibility than those based only on your personal prejudices.
Magnet Schools and basketball
in Public-Private Debate
Posted
The operative words are "read" and "think" and you're making a big assumption.