Fatchance - You may have spoke the most truth that one has seen on these boards. Hawkins is a great shooter I saw him play at South Pitt and 21st Century last night at Tennessee Temple. Although he seems to take some bad shots at times but he surely makes up for them in the long run. I also saw the Grace game against TN Temple and I beleive Grace is still tied up in their lil win and escapade after the game...Totally Classless guys. I live in Lookout Valley, biased I may be, although I have not played basketball in many years I still have a sense of the game. But i say Valley 65-59