RMC

Any stories re our Tn boys out in Greensboro? Ga's Asker didn't make it or what?!?!? But 113 for GA looks great!!!! 1st & 2nd!!!

How about that.......2 kids from same team in the finals in the same weight. And Ness doing well too.

Animal....If you know a team that would like to have someone help out with their upper weights my son would like to give back to wrestling and volunteer to help a Knoxville team.

 

He is a junior at UT.....spent 10 years in the Collins Hill program and spent time at TWC with Arturo.

 

If someone could use some help he'd be happy to help. If he needs a background check or similar that's fine too.

 

Just shoot me an email at rossmcopeland@gmail.com

Congrats old man and to Jack and remember to have T look up my son.

I'd have to add.....Pat Murphy, Randy Batten, Johnny Bradford, Stan Walden...........still thinking...David weeks, Tom Popp......probably forgetting a few.

In TN, we are allowed to schedule 18 dates. Only 2 two day tournaments, not including individual region and state. I know from my perspective it's hard to get these enormous records unless the majority of our dates are filled with quad meets and dual tournaments.

I understand.....but say take your 18 dates.....minus the 2 for a couple of individual tournaments......16...times 5 matches a day....you're at 80....even if you do 10 you're at 50. That's what some of these guys are doing. If you're wrestling in something like the Midwest Classic out in Kansas City, like CBHS did, you get 10 matches in 2 days. Its really popular here (GA) for the JV kids so that they get lots of matches.

When I look at the wrestlers with the most career wins they seem to be from non traditional wrestling states like Kentucky, North Carolina, Georgia, Alabama, etc... which leads to the following question. Would you be better off wrestling 40 or 45 matches in very tough tournaments (Iron Man, Beast of the East, Reno Tournament of Champions, etc...) over wrestling 75+ matches per season against average competition? Dan Gable was quoted as saying it was his job as the coach to get each of his wrestlers beat during the season and that wrestlers learn more from a defeat than a win. Do most states not have a limit on the number of tournaments and dual matches a team is allowed to schedule?

Keep in mind the guys from Alabama can be on varsity in 6th or 7th grade. The guys on there from Georgia are showing the popularity of wrestling only in dual tournaments.

Last time I checked, sophomore Brandon Womack (Scottsboro) was 170-0. Started in 7th grade & three time state champ. Another 126 freshman from Carrolton Georgia (since rmc seems to appreciate that) Adcox? May be setting some records soon himself.

Probably talking about Tyler Askey.....from Northgate....going for his 3rd state championship.

If you were curious about some other national records for wins check these out:

 

Career

324 Pete Baldwin (Life Academy & Osceola HS, Kissimmee, FL) 2004-2011

304 Travis Sullivan (Monticello Wayne County, KY) 2003-2008

304 Josh Johnson (Elizabethtown John Hardin, KY) 2005-2010

284 Colton Palmer (Durham Riverside, NC) 2003-2007

278 Evan Warrington (McDonough Henry County, GA) 2005-2009

276 Andy Khair (College Park Woodward Academy, GA) 2008-2011

275 Kyle Cuthbertson (Scottsboro, AL) 2003-2008

275 Zach Blindet (Salem McCook Central, SD) 2003-2008

268 Dan Bonte (Garretson, SD) 1999-2005

267 Chase Cuthbertson (Scottsboro, AL) 2003-2008

 

Consecutive

260 Justin Zeerip (Hesperia, MI) 2003-2007

235 Travis Sullivan (Monticello Wayne County, KY) 2005-2008

233 Alex Tsirtsis (Griffith, IN) 2000-2004

228 Brent Metcalf (Davison, MI) 2001-2005

219 Andy Simmons (Williamston, MI) 1999-2002

211 Nick Simmons (Williamston, MI) 1997-2001

187 Todd Beckerman (Hyattsville DeMatha, MD) 1993-96

177 Lance Ellis (Indianapolis Cathedral, IN) 1986-89

173 Travis Sullivan (Monticello Wayne County, KY) 2004-2007

162 Andrew Storrs (Goodrich, MI) 1994-98

160 Kevin Black (River Falls, WI) 1995-98

 

Season

91 Colton Palmer (Durham Riverside, NC) 2006-2007

86 Sheldon Wilder (Durham Riverside, NC) 2006-2007

85 Anthony Fretwell (McDonough Henry Co., GA) 2006-2009

83 Cedric Carter (Durham Riverside, NC) 2006-2007

80 Garrett Gainey (College Park Woodward Academy, GA) 2008-2009

80 Chad Pyke (College Park Woodward Academy, GA) 2010-2011

78 Chandler Pyke (College Park Woodward Academy, GA) 2010-2011

77 Tommy Carney (College Park Woodward Academy, GA) 2007-2008

77 Billy Edwards (Raleigh Leesville Road, NC) 2006-2007

76 BJ Murray (Durham Riverside, NC) 2006-2007

76 Andy Khair (College Park Woodward Academy, GA) 2010-2011

 

Found these at:

http://www.wrestlingusa.com/02%20wusa%20web%20root/nationalrecords/highschoolnathsrecords.htm

Manson never wrestled 60 matches. In fact I do not think he ever got to 50. His last high school loss was to Whit Dunning in the state finals his sophomore year. He had no losses his last two years which was something like 92 or 93 matches.

One of the best matches I ever saw....Manson vs. Thomas Knapp.......classic.

I can't imagine we wrestle more in Georgia, but Brett Warrington and Anthony Fretwell had well over 70 wins in a season. Fretwell had 68 pins in a season according the University of Indiana site. I may be wrong but I think they both had 77 wins in a season. They both wrestled for Henry County which must use their 20 dates for mostly dual tournaments.

Not sure if you guys know, but Jefferson GA is a really small school....about 700 kids. They have a great youth and middle school program. They're tearing it up in the state duals this weekend.

BCB is starting to sound and act like Sommers.

Distant relatives...........

ghouse-----given young Jack's success on the mat (has it really been four years since we were accusing TBSFBAG of trying to recruit Jack away from EFT by making Bear Kitten their paid huckster on this forum), particularly this past weekend at the tournament in question, there are a lot of us, including a certain former EFT wrestling coach,who question whether Jack is actually the "progeny" of BCB. We think he has more of Harry Thornton in him-----or maybe Raider 76.

 

BCB---are you guys coming up this way this way for the GP West Tournament at Brentwood? I believe I saw an earlier post where ghouse and the Bros were coming.

 

Congrats on Jack's win over one of RMC's boys. I know you will savor that more than even filming a match at Cleveland.

BCB had inside information................and needs to pay up!

Here's from Chattanoogan.com

 

Collins Hill Wins Competitive Soddy Daisy Showdown

Soddy Daisy, McCallie, Bradley Follow In Team Standings

 

by John Hunt

posted January 7, 2012

 

The annual Soddy Daisy Showdown attracted some of the best high school wrestling talent from Tennessee, Georgia and Alabama, but nobody was any more talented than the Eagles from Collins Hill.

 

These guys from Suwanee, Ga. have had great wrestling teams for years and the 2012 version appears to be no different.

 

They've won four straight Class 5-A state titles in Georgia and they showed why after putting seven individuals in the championship finals before winning five times.

 

The format for this event was unique in that the field was divided in half.

 

There were actually two tournaments going on at the same time where the winners from each faced each other for individual titles.

 

The second-place guys wrestled for third place and so on down the line.

 

Collins Hill claimed five individual champions while two finished second. They also had a third and a fourth-place finisher as they headed home with the first-place award after scoring 234.5 points.

 

Host Soddy Daisy finished a strong second with 195 points and three champions while McCallie scored 160 points to finish third in the 25-team field.

 

Bradley was fourth with 134.5 while Grissom and Independence tied for fifth with 119.5

 

Collins Hill has dominated competition at the Cleveland Duals for many years, but the Eagles chose to attend another tournament the same weekend.

 

Saturday was their first visit to the Showdown.

 

Josh Stephen has been the head coach for the last two years. He has a lot of coaching friends in this area, so it's a win-win situation for him.

 

"I love coming to Tennessee for wrestling tournaments as I have a lot of friends in this area and it's always good to renew old friendships.

 

"There's also always great competition and that's really why we come, but it went pretty well for us today as we did great by winning five of seven in the finals.

 

"We had a couple of tough losses at 126 and 170, but it was about what I expected. I'm real happy with Spencer Rickman at 138 as he beat a real good kid from McCallie.

 

"We've been out of town a lot this season and we're looking forward to staying at home next weekend and hopefully dominating our state duals again," he added.

 

Joining Rickman as winners for the Eagles were Sean Russell at 106, Ryan Millhof at 113, Drew Ferguson at 120 and Matthew Connell at 160.

 

Steven Bradtmueller finished second at 126 while Andrew Krawulski was the runner-up at 170.

 

McCoy Newberg of Independence beat Krawulski by a 6-5 final in double overtime and the two shared the Best Match award for their effort.

 

While Collins Hill had five champions, Soddy Daisy won all three of its matches in the finals.

 

Turbo Smith was victorious at 145 while Billy Swanson and Alex Seeley finished the tournament off on a positive note for the Trojans with wins at 220 and 285.

 

Seeley's win was especially gratifying as he beat Bradley's Patrick Benson, who is the defending state champion at that weight.

 

Other individual winners included Notre Dame's Jack Boone at 126. He was involved in a tight match with Bradtmueller, but used a cradle for a pin 23 seconds into the final period.

 

It was the only pin in the finals.

 

McCallie's Tim Westbrooks was the winner at 132 while Reagan Matlock of Maryville Heritge was first at 152.

 

Bryson Begley of Dobyns-Bennett and Nick Coffey of Brentwood claimed titles at 182 and 195 pounds, respectively.

 

While Collins Hill had nine finishers in the top four, Soddy Daisy also had nine while McCallie and Bradley had six each.

 

In addition to their three champions, Jacob Stevens (113), Gage Richmond (132), Campbell Lewis (138) and Brett Ervin (195) all finished third for Soddy Daisy.

 

Josh Deckelman (126) and Blaike Henry (170) both claimed fourth.

 

Tim Westbrooks was McCallie's only winner while Alex Ward was the runner-up at 138.

 

Adam Connell (120), Eliot Berz (170) and Nathan Hoodenpyle (182) were all third while James Westbrooks was fourth at 106.

 

Tyler Schuch (152) and Benson both finished second for Bradley while Toribio Navarro (106) and Jericho Crutcher (126) were both third.

 

Dakota Bromley and Jacob Bailey were fourth at 120 and 160, respectively.

 

Soddy Daisy coach Steve Henry was one of the happiest guys in the gym when the tournament ended.

 

It was hard to say if he was more pleased with his team's second-place finish or the fact that it was all finally over.

 

"We had some outstanding teams here today, maybe the best for a tournament in the state of Tennessee this year," Henry began.

 

"I'm so glad that Collins Hill came. They have a great program and another strong team. They're legit," he continued.

 

"I don't think I heard any complaints from anyone today and we have everyone on their way home before 9. We had 25 teams here today and they were all here for some great competition.

 

"That was a huge win for Alex Seeley. Ever since he was elected our team captain, he's been a different wrestler. He's my go-to guy when I need something, but I'm really proud of him today.

 

"It was different this year, but I liked the new format. Carol Goss and Brad Jackson did a great job making it work, but I'm just happy it's over," Henry added.

 

FINAL TEAM STANDINGS: 1. Collins Hill 234.5; 2. Soddy Daisy 195; 3. McCallie 160; 4. Bradley 134.5; 5. Grissom and Independence tied with 119.5; 7. Science Hill 117.5; 8. Notre Dame 113.5; 9. Hewitt-Trussville 108; 10 Maryville Heritage 98.5.

 

11. Pigeon Forge 97; 12. Gibbs 85.5; 13. Walker Valley 83.5; 14. Brentwood 81; 15. Cordova 80; 16. Beech and Cookeville tied with 57; 18. Tullahoma 46; 19. Bolton 38; 20. Ooltewah 21.

 

21. Jefferson Co. 20; 22. Oakland 9; 23. Knoxville Central 7; 24. Dobyns-Bennett 4; 25. Rhea Co. 3.

 

CHAMPIONSHIP FINALS

106 -- Sean Russell (Collins Hill) major dec. J.D. Henderson (Grissom), 22-11;

113 -- Ryan Millhof (Collins Hill) dec. Tate Dalrymple (Bolton), 8-3;

120 -- Drew Ferguson (Collins Hill) dec. Alex Kaferie (Tullahoma), 4-1;

126 -- Jack Boone (Notre Dame) pinned Steven Bradtmueller (Collins Hill), 4:23;

132 -- Tim Westbrooks (McCallie) major dec. Caleb Langford (Walker Valley), 16-3;

138 -- Spencer Rickman (Collins Hill) dec. Alex Ward (McCallie), 7-2;

145 -- Turbo Smith (Soddy Daisy) dec. Grayson Mullin (Notre Dame), 8-2;

152 -- Keagan Matlock (Heritage) major dec. Tyler Schuch (Bradley), 13-4;

160 -- Matthew Connell (Collins Hill) major dec. Killian Holt (Grissom), 11-2;

170 -- McCoy Newberg (Independence) dec. Andrew Krawulski (Collins Hill), 6-5 in double overtime;

182 -- Bryson Begley (Dobyns-Bennett) dec. David Kieta (Pigeon Forge), 8-3;

195 -- Nick Coffey (Brentwood) major dec. Brian Walker (Grissom), 14-6;

220 -- Billy Swanson (Soddy Daisy) dec. Raul Leyva (Gibbs), 5-4;

285 -- Alex Seeley (Soddy Daisy) dec. Patrick Benson (Bradley), 6-2.

 

CONSOLATION FINALS FOR THIRD PLACE

106 -- Toribio Navarro (Bradley) dec. James Westbrooks (McCallie), 9-6;

113 -- Jacob Stevens (Soddy Daisy) dec. Byron Smith (Cordova), 9-7;

120 -- Adam Connell (McCallie) major dec. Dakota Bromley (Bradley), 12-4;

126 -- Jericho Crutcher (Bradley) dec. Josh Deckelman (Soddy Daisy), 5-3;

132 -- Gage Richmond (Soddy Daisy) dec. Tyler Knowles (Science Hill), 5-2;

138 -- Campbell Lewis (Soddy Daisy) won by technical fall over Caleb Little (Independence), 4:50;

145 -- Nate Croley (Pigeon Forge) dec. Steven Goldstein (Science Hill), 9-6;

152 -- Reginald Adams (Cordova) dec. Fred Denson (Hewitt-Trussville), 6-3;

160 -- Kevin Elmore (Hewitt-Trussville) pinned Jacob Bailey (Bradley), 1:30;

170 -- Eliot Berz (McCallie) won by injury default over Blaike Henry (Soddy Daisy);

182 -- Nathan Hoodenpyle (McCallie) dec. Jordan Davis (Cordova), 8-6;

195 -- Brett Ervin (Soddy Daisy) dec. Tommy Venuti (Independence), 5-3;

220 -- Elijah Wellington (Collins Hill) dec. Damien Hayes (Science Hill), 6-5;

285 -- Jamison Hicks (Hewitt-Trussville) dec. Zach Carmin (Collins Hill) 5-3.

Ross, what about posting the 24th ranked team in the nation line-up.. If this is to much how about the 25 and 30 lbers?.

 

Bcb iii

 

RMC, I only know of 1 mommy, and I can assure you that my life will not end up sleeping with da fishes, at least this weekend.. So Mrs Mitchell you will be safe to come to Soddy By God!!!!

 

Just a guess from what faced Brandon:

 

106: Sean Russell

113: Ryan Millhof

120: Drew Ferguson-Mitchell

126: Todd Headlam

132: Steven Bradtmueller

138: Spencer Rickman

145: Not sure

152: Anthony Codella

160: Matthew Connell

170: Aubrey Johnson

182: Andrew Krawulski

195: Tommy Donaldson

220: Elijah Wellington

285: Zach Carmin

 

7 state champions or placers in there....and 3 Super 32 placers.

Nah.......decided to send the varsity. Be gentle on the moms BCB!

So there's been some talk of the Ryan the McCallie and the MBA that are this weekend but nothing of the Soddy...Does anybody have a list of teams so bcb can see what mommies are gonna be there so he can figure out what to wear?

Collins Hill will be there.

Oh i would have loved to have seen a match up like that.

We all wanted to see it!

 

The skinnyposts for keeping me straight on the score.

Well, well, well.... this is very conflicting from the story I got! Now trojanman12 I dont see the legitmate chance to beat Brandon. I'm sure soddy will handle everyone rather easily in the state of TN and maybe get in the bottom of the national rankings, but Brandon is a top ten team in the county every year.

 

I say he's right on. Brandon is not the team they have been in the past....yet. I was holding the weigh in sheets for most of the day and their roster is full of 9th and 10th grader wrestlers.

 

Again....I'm going from memory, but I think earlier this year they only beat Camden County, GA by 3....and that was with a full lineup. That's why Camden is ranked in AWN.

 

CH fell out of some rankings because of their 6th place finish at The Cougar Invitational, but in their defense they didn't have Ferguson and Brandtmueller injury defaulted during his first match. Ferguson finished 2nd in that same tournament last year.

 

Anyway....after saying all that..I wouldn't be surprised if Soddy-Daisy wins their tournament.....even with Collins Hill there this year.

Here's the results borrowed from the Georgia forum......(Thanks to Fret and Coach Stephens)

 

Below are the results from the Kyle Maynard Duals:

 

Pool A

Collins Hill 54, Manatee 21

Collins Hill, 69, Cass 6

Manatee 27, Peachtree Ridge 34

Manatee 39, Cass 36

Collins Hill 60, Peachtree Ridge 16

Cass 26, Peachtree Ridge 49

 

Pool B

Osceolla 77, Loganville 0

Baylor 50, North Gwinnett 18

Loganville 6, Baylor 75

Osceolla 55, North Gwinnett 21

Loganville 30, North Gwinnett 54

Osceolla 34, Baylor 36

 

Pool C

Chapel Hill 15, Gordon Lee 60

Chapel Hill 30, Grayson 44

Soddy Daisy 48, Gordon Lee 31

Grayson 20, Gordon Lee 54

Soddy Daisy 63, Grayson 4

Soddy Daisy 70, Chapel Hill 3

 

Pool D

Brandon 58, Woodland 20

Brandon 58, Bremen 18

Brandon 45, McCallie 22

Bremen 24, McCallie 34

Woodland 38, Bremen 39

Woodland 30, McCallie 42

 

Other Matches:

Peachtree Ridge 21, McCallie 57

Osceolla 64, Gordon Lee 12

Manatee 18, Bremen 54

North Gwinnett 58, Grayson 15

Cass 21, Woodland 54

Loganville 52, Chapel Hill 24

Cass 44, Chapel Hill 24

Woodland def Loganville (didn't get the score)

Manatee 46, Grayson 33

North Gwinnett 18, Bremen 48

Peachtree Ridge 42, Gordon Lee 31

Osceolla 58, McCallie 15

 

3rd Place- Soddy Daisy vs. Baylor (didn't wrestle)

1st Place- Brandon 38, Collins Hill 24

does anybody know for sure. I would like to know how one of Tennessee's best matches up against Brandon. I spoke to a couple of people there and they said Soddy only won one weight class as far as they knew other than what Brandon forfeited? They did say they were watching several matches and could have missed some wins.

 

For the Soddy-Daisy - Brandon....I thought it was 45 - 24.....I could be wrong.

 

From what I recall against Baylor....Headlum wrestled at 126 and he's varsity.....they wrestled JV at: 145, 152, 170, 195, 220.......I'll post when I get the line up.

RMC,

 

Are you going to let your friends up north know how the event has been going?

 

BRANDON (FLA.) 38, COLLINS HILL 24

106 pounds: Sean Russell (Collins Hill) forfeit

113: Ryan Millhof (Collins Hill) dec. James Flint (Brandon) 3-2

120: Drew Ferguson-Mitchell (Collins Hill) dec. Victor Fugate (Brandon) 4-2

126: Rossi Bruno (Brandon) fall Todd Headlam (Collins Hill) 2:53

132: Kevin Nostrem (Brandon) maj. dec. Steven Bradtmueller (Collins Hill) 12-4

138: Spencer Rickman (Collins Hill) fall Troy Joyce (Brandon) 1:15

145: Dakota Greene (Brandon) dec. Michael Roquet (Collins Hill) 10-5

152: Travis Berridge (Brandon) fall Anthony Codella (Collins Hill) 1:08

160: Clark Glass (Brandon) maj. dec. Matthew Connell (Collins Hill) 11-3

170: Jacob Haydock (Brandon) fall Aubrey Johnson (Collins Hill) :13

182: Kyle Koziel (Brandon) dec. Andrew Krawulski (Collins Hill) 7-2

195: Robert Enmon (Brandon) dec. Tommy Donaldson (Collins Hill) 9-5

220: Jonathan Summitt (Brandon) dec. Elijah Wellington (Collins Hill) 8-2

285: Zach Carmin (Collins Hill) fall Darron Lester (Brandon) :38

 

Soddy Daisy and Baylor were to wreslte for 3rd and 4th, but chose not to wrestle. I figured they'd probably seen enough of each other.

 

CH had a close semi with Baylor, but did insert 4 JV wreslters in the line up. I think SD's score was about the same as CH's against Brandon as Soddy Daisy and Baylor won their respective pools.

 

I haven't seen CH in a while and I think they've got some work to do on the upper end of the lineup if they want to compete with the likes of Brandon.

Pool A

Collins Hill - COH

Manatee- MAN

Cass- CAS

Peachtree Ridge- PEA

 

Pool B

Osceola- OSC

Baylor- BAY

Loganville- LOG

N. Gwinnett- NOR

 

Pool C

Soddy Daisy- SOD

Chapel Hill- CHA

Grayson- GRA

Gordon Lee- GOR

 

Pool D

Brandon- BRA

Woodland- WOO

Bremen- BRE

McCallie- MCC

 

 

Tentative Schedule:

7:00 AM Weigh-Ins

8:30 AM Round 1

10:00 AM Round 2

11:30 AM Round 3

1:00 PM Round 4

 

2:30 PM Quarter (crossovers)

4:00 PM Semi

5:30 PM Finals

The toughest high school wrestling tournament of the year honors would go to the Ironman or Beast of the East.

I agree.........Walsh Ironman was pretty tough too. Georgia did have a wrestler win Beast of the East a few years ago.....Peter Yates...he's now at Virginia Tech.

WOW!! I must agree this has to be the toughest tournament of the year!

Here's what they said on The Mat:

 

There are seven teams which are represented in a recent national ranking on display there this weekend: No. 9 Bettendorf, IA; No. 18 Allen, TX; No. 26 Collins Hill, GA; No. 31 Blue Springs, MO; No. 32 Tuttle, OK; No. 33 Kearney, MO; and No. 45 Collinsville, OK. Others in this field of nearly 40 teams have long and successful wrestling traditions in their state and region.