jvaughan

And that points to really not having a minimum seating because of the waiver. Facilities such as the one in Summertown, almost always are granted the waiver in Class A.

I agree, why have the minimum if you can just get a waiver.

Being not from Tennessee for the longest time, what was this "substate tournament" that people are talking about? All I know is the sectional played at the campus of the reigion champion while hosting another reigion runner-up. I thought that was the way it had always been. Was something else done in the '90's or something?

In the 98-99 and 99-00 years the T$$AA tested out a "Sectional Tournament". The losers of the Region Semis played a consolation game, with the winner moving on, loser being eliminated.

The Sectional looked like this.

Region 7 Runner Up vs Region 8 3rd Place, winner of that played Region 8 Champ in Semis

Region 8 Runner Up vs Region 7 3rd Place, winner of that played Region 7 Champ in Semis

Winners of Semis played, both moved on to the State Tournament. The Section Championship game was done basically for placement in the state quarterfinals, rather than the random draw that is done now. If you won, you played the runner up of another section, and vice versa. 

I'm not sure where the rest of the state sectionals were but for West Tenn 1A was at UTM, and I think 2A was at Oman Arena (Jackson), and 3A was at a large high school in Shelby County. The name sectional kind of stuck around when they changed back to the current (and old) format that they have now. I will always refer to it as the substate round

I was part of 2 teams that played in the sectional. I kind of liked it then, but now think that the cons out weigh the pros. Playing on a college floor was fun, and we were the beneficiary of the 3rd place game one year (which was great because we upset the other regions runner up in the first round in one of the best games I was a part of). But it was 3 straight nights. That made it really tough for the winner of the quarters to win later on. It made the Region Championship game big because it gave a bye into the semis and another days rest, but the Region Championship is already big with the chance getting to host the substate or go on the road. Also you could lose up to 4 times and make the state tournament (twice in district, once in region, and once in sectional) which waters it down and isn't tournament basketball. It was done because it made more games which means 1 thing, more $$$$$$$$.

TSSAA website has Wayne Co as the region site. District is not posted yet.

My computer won't let me copy/paste a link for some reason.

To see it, go to tssaa.org, click on "Sports" tab, select winter sports, then basketball, scroll down and click "Post season tournament directors", in the drop down box select either "Girls or Boys Basketball", and it will have the Districts listed that have reported their host site, and further down the page it has the regions.

www.tssaa.org/tssaa-basketball-regulations

In the file that is posted, at the bottom of page 3 is the requirements for the sectional round (which are the same as the district and region, listed earlier). And then at the top of page 4 it says that if a school doesn't meet the requirement, it can select a larger facility or may request a wavier for the Executive Director.

Is this the same guy that beat out McCord for Coach of the Year a few years back when he was a boys coach?  I was thinking that guy went to the college game somewhere.

 The rat strikes again!!! LOL!

The district is being played in Trenton & I've attached the bracket with days/times & match ups!

Greenfield vs Bradford 2/8/15 @ 6:30

Winner plays Lake Co 2/9/15 @ 6:30

 

Peabody vs South Fulton 2/9/15 @ 6:30

Winner plays Halls 2/12/15 @ 6:30

 

Winner between Lake co/ GF/Bradford plays Gibson Co 2/12/15 @6:30

 

Winner between Halls/Peabody/south Fulton plays Humboldt 2/14/15 @7:30

 

Winner between greenfield/Bradford/lake county/ Gibson county plays Union City 2/14/15 @6:00pm

 

Championship game 2/17/15 @7:30

Consolation game 2/17/15 @6:00pm at Peabody

 

Semi-final games & championship games will be at Trenton, all other games will be at higher seed!!

 

Union City & Humboldt recieve automatic berths into the semi-finals do to finishing 1st & 2nd in regular season!

You've got Greenfield and Bradford 2/8/15 which is a Sunday. Is that correct?

I kind of like the format. Rewards the top 2 with automatic berths to the Region and saves legs too. Makes the regular season that much more important. It is a lot easier to understand if it is actually drawn out on a bracket than reading it this way.

My guess on the location is that the girls coaches didn't want to play at Gibson County. So Peabody is the next best option.

http://www.wmctv.com/story/25148356/hardaway-says-hes-not-interested-in-east-job

Are we for sure he is taking it?

Please dear Jesus don't let the government get involved.

If the private schools were to split, why have those in D2 not already? Are they waiting on the 20 or so that are D1 to join them so they can have a bigger organization?

 

Wooooh now, slow up on that type of talk about Memphis. Its good to talk about other parts of the state but stay away from bringing the most honest, cleanest, rule abiding group of schools in the state into this conversation.

 

Since the thread is about the public/private split I decided not to eleborate on the Memphis problem. Notice I said it needed to be addressed.

Memphis is a seperate can of worms from the public/private issue that the T$$AA needs to address. The bona fide change of residence rule is less than effective to put it lightly. But the T$$AA is not into telling school boards what to do. And rightfully shouldn't be.

The biggest issue in my opinion is not recruiting, money, or facilites. There are publics that recruit, anyone who says none do have their head in the sand. Publics will always face issues of money because schools don't have the same tax base. I've seen some public schools with excellent facilities and privates with nothing. Rural vs urban isn't really that big of a deal with me because you can't help what type of student lives in the area.

The biggest issue is that privates can have students from anywhere. I'm going to pick on TCA because its around me. A student from Dyer (45ish minute drive north of Jackson) can attend TCA, he/she drives right past Trenton Peabody and Humboldt but can not attend because he/she is zoned to Gibson County Special School District. He/she can't attend a public school in Jackson for the same reason. Not sure how that's not an huge advantage.

Also something else is that privates have is that they can control enrollment. They can turn students away for any reason. This can keep you in whatever classification you want.

Before anyone goes there (because it will happen) I am aware that some publics can be open zoned and take out of zone students and that some magnets and the like can control enrollment. I'm in favor of putting a multiplier on all that do.

If you put a Memphis school in the Jackson district (15A) you are talking about a haul to play all your district games. 2 of which would be 2 hours or more in Scott's Hill and Riverside. Not gonna happen.

Heard the rumor. Wow if it's true!

Bigster, did the student enroll at Dyer Co while living in Lake Co this year? Was he on the team at Dyer Co? Did he tell Lake Co that he moved to Trenton then moved back? You may not know any of these but just some questions I had about it.

I'm at Greenfield helping with our Junior High boys team so I'm still around. Middleton was a very good team that year as well and tough place to play at.

What about the region championship game with Greenfield? Did you enjoy that one? Just kidding! I played in that game and yall were very good. Shouldve been a rematch on Saturday in Murfreesboro that year. I would rather play y'all than a private school.

We had Bob Ross painting some amazing trees over here in the West on WLJT. Really wanted to see the Dale and the Hill go at it. Got to see the last minute.

 

 

Yes even though they have a 600+ enrollment after the multiplier some crazy rule will allow them to play in Class A for four years.

Another instance where the T$$AA let's football govern how basketball is done.

The best team will prove itself on the floor no matter the draw

Agreed. The worst you are doing is costing someone a silver ball. Still a big deal but not a travesty.

What's the over under on # of times people complain about the blind draw if UC and JC get put on the same side?

 

 

Any chance that you could get Memphis to become its own state? That would be great for all Tennesseans!

Kind of like the Vatican!!

I think there are only 4 football playing schools in that district currently and the districts are divided the same for football and basketball. That should change though I understand the reasoning, building and maintaining rivalries across sports. If you gave them two Class A basketball districts not only would other districts be affected, the number of regular season football districts would have to be reduced by one.

And that's why our current class system isn't good. We have decisions being made for basketball based on what's good for football.

 

 

 

it will never be equitable regardless of how it is implemented because the "top 8" teams in the state will not always play in it. if the state wasn't so expansive you could move teams around...then you might have a chance to get the best quality teams in the thing...

Agreed. But I would like to see more of a win or go home aspect of it.

The way it is now favors the stronger districts/regions. And since you can't seed schools and have them travel long distances like they do in the NCAA it's the best thing going. Dont much care that you can lose 3 games and still advance but it is what it is

I do favor Rats plan. I like that it makes the district finals and consolation mean a lot.

Would cut down on games which means cut down on $$$$. Better for competition and making it really mean something but not for the bank account.