jvaughan

17 minutes ago, WhereYouAt said:

I thought Huntigdon's coach was someone different. That name doesn't sound familiar

 

I believe he was Huntingdon’s middle school coach. 

58 minutes ago, District12AA said:

Memphis with 3 districts in AA.

I know someone in West TN throwing a hissy fit this morning. Good job by TSSAA getting it right.

I haven’t been around as long as most, but I’m never surprised by the TSSAA 

Here you go folks. Not sure how I feel about it but.... it’s something.
 

https://portal.tssaa.org/common/classification/?schoolYear=2021

New numbers for Lawrence County schools turned. 
LCHS at 1,022 Loretto at 435 and Summertown at 423.
 

4 hours ago, NWhoopaholic said:

As I plugged in the new enrollments there are some interesting changes in two years. Differences in the three Lawrence County schools have already been addressed and according to JVaughn this was a numbers mistake from the system office that will be fixed.

There are several other schools with large drops. Some were caused by opening of new schools. Others are curious. Here in West Tennessee, I notice Riverside and Camden both down 88 students, while Haywood dropped by 189. Not sure what would explain these large swings. Apparently Liberty’s decrease went to Northside/South Side. Someone elsewhere might have insight to decreases from schools like Red Boiling Springs, Whites Creek, Grundy Co., Union Co., Station Camp, Chattanooga Central, & Ooltewah

What may be most amazing to me is the apparent influx of students into Memphis City schools. Used to shifting enrollments there but not these type changes. The following schools showed significant increases from two years ago.

BT Washington 205-345
Soulsville Charter 256-356
Westwood 269-373
Oakhaven 315-398
KIPP Memphis 402-485
Freedom Prep 310-508
Crosstown 369-535
East 345-544
Mem. Business 402-563
Trezevant 387-563
Power Center 421-651
Douglass 500-666
Hamilton 362-704
Raleigh-Egypt 515-716
Melrose 523-791
Overton 1060-1329
Kingsbury 1180-1334
Codova 1933-2252

Don’t think anyone has intentionally skewed the numbers but believe TSSAA may still have some work to do before they can take next step toward classification.

I believe the drop for Riverside’s is simply because the last time numbers were turned in they had two classes back to back that were among the largest in the schools history, both of which are graduated now and class sizes are back to what they usually run. 
And I agree that the TSSAA has some work to do before they can put things together. Hopefully they can look at increase/decrease and make sure it all checks out. 

I believe it was an honest mistake on the districts part. 

From what I understand, Lawrence County schools turned in the wrong number. They did the 20 day average attendance, not 20 day average enrollment. Big difference there. Got to remember that it’s the school district, not the individual school that turns the number in for public schools. 
I also understand that it is being corrected in the next few days. 

I believe there was a misunderstanding and it’ll be corrected.

16 minutes ago, Richmond30 said:

How in the world did Loretto lose 178 kids in 2 years?

2018 enrollment: 531

2020 enrollment: 353

Must be a school district thing because it’s not just them. Compare Summertown’s and Lawrence County High’s. 

51 minutes ago, TryNotToSuck said:

It's okay, you can chill just a little bit with the two words that were in all caps. It's okay if Kevin hired one of his buddies! But how many times did Greenfield make it to Murfreesboro before Chloe and Tess? And if so, what year(s) was that in? I'm not saying that Willie isn't a "good or great coach" but I am saying that he had the luxury of having arguably the best "duo" in state history when it comes to Mrs. Basketball finalist/awards, P/A/R numbers, and wins. He didn't have to actually "coach" on occasional nights when Chloe and Tess played. It's not a knock on Willie, and I didn't mean to cause any harm to him specifically. But his stock is at an all-time high, no one can't deny that. If Greenfield host a sub-state game in March of 2021, then he is a great coach, there's no doubt. Unfortunately, I won't get to experience that. It's okay to disagree.

Willie has coached 5 total tournament teams. 2004 as the boys coach while also coaching the girls in his first year as a head coach, 2006, 2018, 2019, and 2020 with the girls. 
While yes he had the luxury, he won before he had those two girls. Before he got the job in 2004, Greenfield girls were average at best for a long time. Along with Coach Tori Liggett who was the junior high coach for a a number of years, they made Greenfield girls basketball relevant.

7 hours ago, TryNotToSuck said:

Might get a lot of heat for saying this, but I'm going to say it anyway. But it's sad to basically come out and say that Chloe and Tess got him that job.

Maybe I’m not reading it clear but let me be sure before I comment further. You, yourself, think that Chloe and Tess make him appear to be a better coach than he actually is?

For those that care, here’s the new shirt. Enjoy. 

3 hours ago, westtn12 said:

Selling them for $20 

Yes I believe that is still up on the Greenfield Booster Club Facebook page but that version is not going to be printed according to someone who I spoke with who is in the know. 

2 hours ago, pioneer42 said:

In reality, they are the Associated Press State Champions. They were number 1 in the final rankings. Most people that reacted didn’t see the AP at first. 

I’m glad that they are going with a different design as there is no such “AP State Champions”. This way the girls will be recognized for something less controversial. By claiming a title that doesn’t exist it would diminish what they accomplished, which is what will be put on any shirt, banner, trophy, display, etc. People are still going to hate on it but at least the way it will done will have facts behind it and not a fictional title. 

Well news from coacht.com travels fast I guess lol. Just a got a call from a very reliable source that the shirt that is on Greenfield’s booster club Facebook page that says AP Class A State Champion is in fact NOT being made. The design sort of jumped the gun and has since been nixed. However another shirt is in the works that I believe will properly and accurately honor the team from Greenfield with what can best be described “undisputed facts”. Those are my words not my sources. This shirt is not the only way that Greenfield will honor these girls so I’m sure we’ll hear more about it in the future but I just wanted to calm everyone down and let you know that Greenfield will not be claiming the state championship. They will only be claiming what the team factually accomplished. 

10 minutes ago, pioneer42 said:

Text me at 731-343-5660. I got one on my phone. I don’t know how to post it on here but I wouldn’t any way. Booster Club is selling them. Says AP State Champs. AP is in little writing. Shirt is legal. They were number 1 in AP poll at end of the year.Why would anyone else go to the trouble of doing that?

Now that I’ve seen it, I guess I would say to each their own. 

1 hour ago, pioneer42 said:

I seen one today the T-Shirts have AP in small writing above the state champion. Have to zoom in to see it. But it is what it is. No law against making up T-Shirts in celebrating the way they want to I guess. Gibson County wouldn’t do that I will assure you. Our coach wouldn’t allow that with four teams left. They can buy all the T-Shirts, rings and banners all they want, but if TSSAA doesn’t honor co-champions or they play this thing out which they are not it won’t get in the record books. And you would think as proud as they are of their season “you would think” they would want it in the programs and record books. And if they don’t want it in the record books they are the only 1 out of 12. 

Ok thank you for that.......

Can a picture of the actual shirt be posted on here by someone? I would love to get “picture proof” that these are out there. Would also like to know if it’s something that the school/team/booster club did or if it’s something that was done outside of anyone actually affiliated with the school. 

19 hours ago, westtn12 said:

The fact Greenfield has shirts made saying State Champions is unreal. I have picture proof of the shirt. I CAN’T wait until next year. Good luck making it out of region. WHAT A CLASSLESS ACT. 4 teams left. None of which would have rolled over and handed the title to them. Go ahead and claim state champs...... record books don’t lie. 

Anyway you can post a picture of the shirt on here?

On 2/7/2020 at 8:45 AM, UCPrepShowcase said:

Isn't that splitting hairs???? There IS NO OTHER school in Pickett Co???

By the way its worded, its not splitting hairs IMO. But I'm sure they have some wonderful reason to not allow it in a situation like Pickett Co. even though it makes perfect sense to allow it.

3 hours ago, tradertwo said:

Same situation at Scotts Hill back before the new school (9-12) was built... played up from 8'th grade until then, but not anymore, even though both are titled "Scotts Hill".

Exactly, 2 different schools now.

I went to Union with Crystal Eason, who if there was a "8th Grader playing up Hall of Fame" would be selected on her first ballot.

20 minutes ago, UCPrepShowcase said:

If you did that, you played illegally. Pickett has 1 K-8 and 1 9-12 in the entire county.... separated by a road and have been told repeatedly that 8th graders cannot play

Pickett would have two different schools then. If you are in K-8 Pickett you are not enrolled at the 9-12 school. The rules says enrolled at the same school, not the same school system as it would be at Pickett. So that is why they have been told repeatedly that 8th graders can not play. Greenfield has been one K-12 school since 1990 even though they were in the two different buildings until the fall of 2004. I graduated in 2003 and we did it for about 10 years prior under the coach I played for. 

On 1/22/2020 at 9:56 PM, tradertwo said:

Not going to go back and check, but I believe that the policy states "same campus"... not necessarily the same building, but the same facility.

Here is what I came up with off the website:

Section 8. An eighth grade student is eligible to participate for a member school if he/she is enrolled at the school. Students below the eighth grade are not eligible to practice or participate for a member school. Any student repeating the eighth grade shall not be eligible for high school participation during the year that the student is repeating the eighth grade. Participation as an eighth grader shall not reduce the number of semesters a student is allowed to participate after enrolling in the ninth grade.

I think Huntingdon proposed something a few years to change it or eliminate it all together and it got shot down. When I was in school at Greenfield we were a K-12 school but K-8 and 9-12 were in two different buildings separated by a street and we played up as 8th graders. 

You don’t have to be in the same building to play 8th graders. You just have to be considered the same school ie K-12, 7-12 etc. 

5 hours ago, old24eagle said:

I think it will eventually happen. I dont like it but its going to happen. So many new coaches coming into the game who want one along with surrounding states doing it will eventually force TSSAA's hand. To begin with it will only be a cost to install new clocks and controls, the next step is going to be paying a 4th official to run the clock similar to football. some small schools who can barely afford to keep the program going will be hurt bad by this. I dont think a lot of people who arent or have never been involved with High School sports factor this in, they just think those shot clocks and money for a 4th official magically appear.

This is one of the biggest reasons I'm against it. I believe too that officials will want more money (they already do as it is) and since this will be something else on court officials have to keep up with, they will have the leverage to get it.

I could write a book on why I don't think there should be a shot clock in high school basketball. We've hit on it all nearly already so I won't beat a dead horse.

I think its's going to eventually happen because change happens. I think that if you do not go along with the NFHS rules and regulations you are not allowed to vote on things that they handle (not 100% sure on that) so if that is the case, the TSSAA wouldn't be wise to not be able to vote on matters that they are going to be required to follow. More and more states are putting it in so its gaining traction and will happen eventually. But I hope it holds off as long as possible.