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Now that four classes are official and they voted to continue to send 8 teams to state tournament, I will resurrect this thread and see how you'd like to have it organized.
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Now that four classes are official and they voted to continue to send 8 teams to state tournament, I will resurrect this thread and see how you'd like to have it organized.
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2 minutes ago, pioneer42 said:
You have the school enrollment numbers from last year?? I have seen it some where but don’t have it.
https://tssaa.org/article/2018-mid-cycle-enrollments
Mid-cycle enrollment numbers. They are now two years old.
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30 minutes ago, Redrage4life said:
Anyone have an idea what the potential split numbers will be in the new 4 classifications?
Projections I did from most recent enrollments available were:
Class A under 400
AA under 720
AAA under 1164I'm sure there have been fluctuations in enrollment, opening/closing of charter schools, and some other new schools. Each class should have a number in the low-mid 80's.
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23 minutes ago, Redrage4life said:
Has anyone looked at what the potential even split will be with the new 4 classifications?
Projections I did from most recent enrollments available were:
Class A under 400
AA under 720
AAA under 1164I'm sure there have been fluctuations in enrollment, opening/closing of charter schools, and some other new schools. Each class should have a number in the low-mid 80's.
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23 hours ago, Richmond30 said:
I heard union city is open. They should be top 10 in single A.
Boys assistant Antawn Coby is new girls coach.
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18 minutes ago, pioneer42 said:
I personally think Willie is a good coach and Kevin knows his basketball for sure. Just saying In making his decision to coach with Kevin he knows that doing what he has done the last four years will be a lot tougher with the talent pool that has left.
Timing coincided with David Russell's decision to retire. Think Willie would've been Kevin's top choice whenever it opened. He will fit in well working with & replacing former Gibson Co. state championship coaches.
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11 hours ago, TryNotToSuck said:
Might get a lot of heat for saying this, but I'm going to say it anyway. But it's sad to basically come out and say that Chloe and Tess got him that job.
As i said earlier, Kevin McMillan & Willie Trevathan have been good friends since early in Willie's career. I ASSURE you Chloe and Tess did NOT get him this job. Anyone that thinks so is an outsider speculating. It also has nothing to do with "his stock." Kevin McMillan knows a little about coaching basketball and who to surround himself with.
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Coach Trevathan will replace the legendary David Russell on Kevin McMillan's bench. Coach Russell is retiring. Willie Trevathan and Kevin McMillan have been good friends for many years. Should be a seamless transition. Who might be interested in the Lady Jackets?
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5 hours ago, pagpride said:
Union City High School -
Javonte Moffatt - MTSU (entering draft)
Fufu Stephens - UTM
Tucker Kennedy - Arkansas Tech
Jamison Blackwell - Kentucky Wesleyan
Jon Robinson - Air Force/SEMO
Jon, of course, is not from 3-4 years ago but is making Union City proud as the GM of the Titans.
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On 4/3/2020 at 1:09 PM, KennyMayne said:
What happened at Chester?? Howard was there 1 season.
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Looks like Chloe has chosen to be an Indiana Hoosier.
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4 hours ago, CoachAnderson said:
First off, I am in support of 4 classes for all sports, including football. All sports in same classifications will help with rivals remaining so.
I have coached HS basketball since 2001 in A LOT of places (I’m active duty military): Puerto Rico, Washington State, Hawaii, North Carolina, Tennessee (at 2 HS’s, Beech and now Franklin) & in my opinion the state tournament process in North Carolina is the best.
Basketball season in NC looks a lot like the NCAA model and consists of:
1. Non District games
2. District games
3. District Tournament
4. 64 Team SINGLE ELIMINATION State Tournament. (Always thought that if you loose in the post season, your season should be over!) Higher seed hosts all the way through the Elite 8. Semi Finals at UNC-Charlotte and UNC-Greensboro and State title game is at Dean Dome the following weekend.
**Teams are required to enter games into M@x Pr3ps and their algorithm is used for ranking.
**Teams can eliminate 1 non-district loss from algorithm to encourage tough scheduling.
**District Tourney Champ get auto bid, each District get 3 guaranteed (makes consolation game VERY important).
**Remaining seeds set via unapproved website rankings
**Bracket is broken up East & West. Take furtherest East school and move westward until you have 32 schools for the East Bracket and remaining 32 schools are in West Bracket. The following year start furtherest west and move eastward. If one mid-state school has to go East and their in-district rival West, TOO BAD!
I would be OK with four classes in all sports too if we could have same school's playing each other in ALL sports. Divide football-playing schools by four, then plug in non-football school's where their enrollment falls. As far as the NC model, I like some of it, dislike other parts. Don't think we'll see anything new develop that could potentially cut post-season revenue.
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2 minutes ago, tradertwo said:
I'll gladly take that 10 team region over our current situation. I'd figure that the overall disparity in enrollments would be drastically closer than we have faced in the last cycle, and that's all that we'd ask. Not that it matters, but I think that we would be top two or three baseball/softball , and top five basketball. Our football program took a hit for a couple of years, but I think that we'll get back to where we were in a few seasons and could be competitive when we do. I think that I can include Adamsville and Riverside in this statement... all that we ask is a reasonable chance.
Other parts of the state might not be so happy but four class basketball would benefit several schools across West Tn. and could be very competitive if numbers hold true through this Fall.
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6 hours ago, tradertwo said:
The last line has a lot of meaning. We've always played with schools to our west, but when football was reclassified and regions were redrawn, we were placed in region 5 with Riverside, Lewis County, Waverly, both Hickman teams, Clarksville Academy, and Loretto. Last realignment we were (are) in region 6, all still to our east... in all other sports, we are aligned in the same area as in the past, but bumped to AA, where only the other two small AA's are traditional rivalry games. The great thing is that most teams/communities that we now play are as well represented as our long time, traditional opponents. The bad thing is, we've had to forgo playing teams that we've faced uninterrupted (before recently) for decades.
In my projections based on last enrollment figures the school's you refer to would be in 14AA in a four-class system. They'd be joined by Madison & maybe Bolivar who could be on "the bubble." Rest of Region 7 would be Westview, Milan, Union City, Gibson Co., & Halls.
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On 3/19/2020 at 12:45 PM, cbg said:
Are you saying divide based on Urban/Rural Public Schools or are you saying place the private & public schools back together and then divide along the lines of Urban/Rural?
I would've been for Urban/Rural split before Public/Private split. Probably won't happen now, not as practical with privates gone but still something to look at.
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7 hours ago, Indian said:
I'd go four classes in basketball plus possibly softball and baseball. Four teams in each class ending up in Murfreesboro would work fine. Maybe first round games could be played at Riverdale and Blackman etc, with Class AAA at MTCS so none of the Murfreesboro teams could have home court in the first round.
More and more charter schools or whatever they're termed will continue to cause trouble in the classes for basketball, not so much in baseball and softball probably. Since there are no games right now, may as well take the time to throw out something the TSSAA looked at very briefly a few years ago, a rural-urban split. This would solve charters, also solve some-though not all-of transfer issues, at least each division would be on somewhat equal footing for transfer accessibility.
Some of the largest counties definitely have rural areas but they have a lot of students nearby that can move in and turn around a program instantly. It can happen in rural areas too but it's not as likely.
I'd take the largest 20 or so counties: Shelby, Davidson, Knox, Hamilton, Rutherford, Williamson, Montgomery, Sullivan, Sumner, Wilson, Blount, Washington, Bradley, Madison, Maury, Putnam, Anderson-take all their schools and divide by 3 or 4. If taking back the privates, large ones would play in largest class, others in second largest class.
For the other 75 counties, divide by 3. Exceptions who'd go into the urban division would be large schools with 1,500 or more, there would be just a few but they'd be much larger than some even in the largest class.
Always thought Urban/Rural was best way to split but it must've never got very far. Don't think it's on the table this cycle but maybe next. Truly think basketball will be four classes next time. TSSAA will decide at June meeting.
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Thanks for some input. Only post on either board that has an idea other than "we don't need four classes" "let's give everyone a trophy" etc. Very good chance it's going to happen. So how do they organize it?
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2 hours ago, Khall555 said:
Have you read through this Thread it’s all about how Westview was going to steamroll Upperman and Macon to the Gold Ball. There was no reason to play those games really.
I see it’s perfectly ok for Westview to lose a close game without a starter (they still had the future Hall of Famer Freshman BTW) but for Macon to lose by 3 to Westmoreland (a top 10 team that made the Sub-State in AA and only lost by 4 at Nolensville) without 2 Sr starters before Thanksgiving is inexcusable. Macon got healthy and manhandled Westmoreland by 17 in a rematch. Westmoreland is better than at least 2 teams that made the State Tournament.Yes I have read it and just re-read! The only use of juggernaut was people describing Macon. Greenfieldfan made a reference to Westview winning the Gold Ball and that's the only mention of Westview in a confident vane. I presented facts to answer your claim about their "mediocre loss" and you go off defending Macon's loss again. I have voted Macon Co. #1 in the AP Poll all season and they looked it Thursday. The few Westview posters on here have made no claims they were going to steamroll anyone. If another thread has made you believe that, they were from elsewhere trying to elicit just that type of response.
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7 minutes ago, Khall555 said:
They haven’t lost this year (2020) had 2 starters injured before January and the unbeatable juggernaut Westview has lost a game (to a mediocre Single A team) this year BTW
Don't think anyone claims Westview is an unbeatable juggernaut. For the record, the so-called mediocre Single A was Union City by 2 in overtime without UNA signee Alexis Callins. Union City had Final 4 participant Gibson Co. beat in the region semis on GC floor late in the 4th. Union City was NOT mediocre this year.
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10 hours ago, pioneer42 said:
I personally don’t like the idea of four classes. It has ruined HS football, IMO.
Whether we like it or not there's a good chance it's coming. Would like to hear some opinions on the tournament format. TSSAA is set to look at options soon and whether they would be feasible.
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Since there’s nothing we can do about the present lets turn our attention to the future. The TSSAA is set to consider going to four classes in basketball and from all indications this has some serious traction. Would love to hear input on how the state tournament should be done. I’m going to throw out three options. If you have another idea put it out there.
#1 Basically the current schedule but would require 8 games Wed-Fri. Play 2 class of quarters the first two days, 8 semifinals on Friday, & 4 championships on Saturday. Downside:This would make for long days TSSAA staff.
#2 Use two different venues concurrently, for example A/AA one place & AAA/AAAA at another. One class would play Wednesday, other on Thursday, all semis on Friday, & championships on Saturday. Downside: Everyone would not be together but hopefully they’d be close enough people could attend both easily. Also double the staffing required.
#3 Add a “Super-Sectional” game pitting Sectional winners at a larger venue in each of the four sections of state and send only four teams to Murfreesboro in each class. Play four semifinals Wednesday & four Thursday. Two championships Friday & two Saturday. Downside: Fewer teams make "State."
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Since there’s nothing we can do about the present lets turn our attention to the future. The TSSAA is set to consider going to four classes in basketball and from all indications this has some serious traction. Would love to hear input on how the state tournament should be done. I’m going to throw out three options. If you have another idea put it out there.
#1 Basically the current schedule but would require 8 games Wed-Fri. Play 2 class of quarters the first two days, 8 semifinals on Friday, & 4 championships on Saturday. Downside:This would make for long days TSSAA staff.
#2 Use two different venues concurrently, for example A/AA one place & AAA/AAAA at another. One class would play Wednesday, other on Thursday, all semis on Friday, & championships on Saturday. Downside: Everyone would not be together but hopefully they’d be close enough people could attend both easily. Also double the staffing required.
#3 Add a “Super-Sectional” game pitting Sectional winners at a larger venue in each of the four sections of state and send only four teams to Murfreesboro in each class. Play four semifinals Wednesday & four Thursday. Two championships Friday & two Saturday. Downside: Fewer teams make "State."
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15 hours ago, gcfan2 said:
Yep. And she could still give the finalists in class A a run for their money today no doubt in my mind. She had an outstanding career at GC and helped win 2 state titles! Back to back. Miss Basketball is a joke. Explain to me how you have a girl that is 70-1 over 2 years , won 2 state titles not win? People must have forgotten, she played in district 13 AA. At the time the best player in the toughest district in the state from top to bottom. No question.! As far as I know the girl from Westview won. (Won't mention names) who got put out in the simi's and won it over Heather Butler. I remember. Its miss Basketball for a reason. She was clearly the best player in AA at least her senior year, maybe both seasons. Oh well, doesn't really matter. OVC MVP at least twice. Brought UT Martin to some of its best years ever. Played in 2 NCAA games....I'm pretty sure. Oh yeah, then she went on to play professional ball for a few years. Hands down the best player in AA those 2 years. When politics get involved , it's shameful.
It was actually a player from Obion Central whose team was eliminated by Westview in the Semis.
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If We Go To 4 Classes? How's The Tourney Look?
in Girls Basketball
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I did not stream any of the meetings so I don't know. He originally said only four would come to the Boro but that changed today. You now have 28 games to play compared to 21. Starting on Monday would require alterations in current schedule since that Monday of girls is also boys sectional night & turn-around would be too quick from girls sectional on Saturday. Don't see the tourney being spread over six days but I guess they have some tentative plan.
Several years ago, when there was only one D-2 class, the tourney was held with four classes starting on Tuesday. I cannot remember how it was organized however.