patpride1
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No miracles are expected.No one has said the new HC is untalented.But let me Fill you in on how things are done here in ole JC,Yes he will work hard.He will be hamstringed at every turn.He will Not be allowed to spend any money.He will Not be allowed to hire his own staff.He will not get the Strength coach .He will be never NOT reminded about how great we were in 87.After 3 to 4 subpar seasons he will be strongly encouraged to resign.After that, there will be an exhaustive search and interview process .And after CAREFUL consideration and after they can't come to terms with the 1st or 2nd choices .The principal will hire a low cost friend.And process will repeat.
I think you summed it up. HOw do you expect different results when you do the same things (insanity).... handcuffed with the same old assistant coaches. Its amazing how we get a diff head coach but make the same mistakes year over year. I agree, we will never come out of the pocket to fix the problem!!!!!!I dont understand. If you fill the seats, the money is generated to pay the coaches. Not rocket science. 5000 extra fansx$6.00 = $30,000/game x 5 home games = 150,000/season.
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SC by 14
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I checked this one expecting the usual Dumplin Valley gang on here bashing the coaches...obviously they are still in a state of shock over this one.
First off, congrats to CC. No program needs a big win more than the big red. As to the coach bashing. not much this year. had great team until few weeks ago. At the end of this game we were playing 5 starters on defense. Injuries will make if difficult for this team to win 2 more games this year. Cobble must be wondering what the heck has happened? 6 season ending injuries. What hit JC hard is loosing the top to LB's. Loosing Smiley and Williams kills JC. every time a player falls its an acl or mcl . lost another one in first def series friday. Good luck CC. go beat the MT teams. Just throw it up to 2 and let him do his thing.
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West has been able to grind it out in every game they've played this year. DB is very good but I don't think they have the level of defense West does. People see one bad showing in a rivalry game and forget how battle tested West is. This matchup is starting to look alot like the matchup in 09 but with the roles reversed.
west was fortunate to beat SH in which DB will beat badly. DB thumped Green in a preseason scrimmage but ok. West will attempt to grind but will not stop SC much like last year. I have seen both teams 2 times this year. West cant score enough to beat SC. The corners cant handle the speed of SC. If SC protects the QB, they win big. The fact is Brewer gets receivers wide open. SC 31 west 17.
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Your Morristown West / Sevier County outcome may be accurate but West better plan to score more than 24.
Jeff county will struggle rest of year as injuries have killed this team. 5 starters on defense playing at end of CC game. Need major adjustment by coaches to move some players around. May have to play QB on defense like East and West does in key situations.
I will take SC as West cant score enough to keep up! SC 35 west 17. west has scored 19 on SD and East the past 2 games. SC much better than both.
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They are still over on the JC TH thread.
Not many of us left. Most of the parents left with last years team. We are not saying much because there is not much to say. Team looks improved in most areas from a team that most expected nothing from. I think we surprised our first 2 opponents. I dont suspect we will sneak up on SC given the results from last year.
Go Patriots
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Really, all this talk about putting Maryville, DB, and Oak Ridge on the schedule.. Why dont all you Jeff County fans wake up and worry about who is on the schedule for this year!! Last time i checked, there is an old rivalry game in 2 days with Sevier County and none of you patriot fans are even talking about this game. It is a big game in respect to where the state of your program is at..I anticipate this game to be a very good game and it doesnt look like the patriot fans have a clue who you are playing this week!! This could be the reason your program has been in such bad shape, support your team and quit worrying about things you cant control!!!!!!! GO BEARS
I think most JC fans know who we are playing. We are taking it as seriously as we did last year. We filled the stands at TH, I expect the same this Friday. See you there
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all this talking is a mute point. This team can be one of the better teams in the area. They will get respect based on their record at the end of the year going into the playoffs. If they are good enough to make it. All the other stuff is mute because Maryville, DB and others would not schedule us for the reasons that jc4life states is a reason for us to schedule up. YOU see, Jc would be a step backwards for them. They are looking for tough comp to prepare them . We must get a few good years behind us b-4 they would consider JC worthy comp. Lets get a few 8-2 or better behind us and then ask to be put back in the discussion! I
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Those Admirals can play that no respect card now.
What makes it even worse is the fact that the game was played at Oak Ridge.
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thats smart Oakridge is 0-1 and in 8th place and the 10 team beat them this week and actually have a win/???
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Class 6A
Record Pts Prv
1. Maryville (21) 2-0 210 1
2. Riverdale 2-0 176 2
3. Blackman 2-0 161 4
4. Whitehaven 2-0 143 5
5. Kingsport Dobyns Bennett 2-0 121 T6
6. Oakland 2-0 109 T6
7. Mt. Juliet 2-0 70 10
8. Oak Ridge 0-1 44 3
9. Bradley Central 1-1 39 8
10. Farragut 1-1 26 NR
Others receiving 12 or more points: 11, Siegel 18.
Class 5A
Record Pts Prv
1. Columbia (19) 2-0 206 1
2. Powell 2-0 181 2
3. Henry County (1) 2-0 170 3
4. Morristown West (1) 2-0 133 6
5. Knoxville West 2-0 125 4
6. Gallatin 2-0 104 8
7. Tullahoma 1-1 47 5
8. Craigmont 0-1 46 7
9. Knoxville Catholic 2-0 28 NR
10. Clarksville NE 2-0 26 NR
Others receiving 12 or more points: 11, Ridgeway 16. 11, Cherokee 16. 13, Memphis East 13.
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When I played we played in a conference made up exclusively of 5A teams to the necessity to schedule other 5A teams was not there. Things are very different now, JC is in a region with only 1 other 5A school meaning it HAS to schedule other 5A school in the OOC. Maryville doesn't need to load up its OOC schedule (yet they play O.R in the OOC anyway), Bearden and Farragut are in their conference plus W.B and Heritage. O.R is in a similar situation as JC, but they go out an play Farragut and Maryville every year. DB is in a similar position but they've schedule Sevier Co and Farragut.
you are correct as it was the big east. you also picked up such powers as Karns and Cambell county?? thats stepping out there. They also took 4 to the state which was 50%. that has changed. DB is the only comp we lost. Sevier county stayed on and until this year we kept Beardon. If you look at Beardon vs Tenn High. TH is stronger this year.. your point is?
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Irish and cap Thanks I thought I was going crazy or flat out missing something here given the 14 / 16 record over the past 3 seasons. your post are dead on. Like I said on the initial post. Let them walk b-4 we run and give them credit if they succeed. Go patriots
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Same argument we have up here.Tssaa messed it all up a couple of years ago.I liked the Big East and having Oak Ridge as one of our out of conference games every year.It was fair and simple and now your punished for playing a great school and maybe getting a loss or two.Last year,Maryville would have had to travel to Kingsport because of a loss to Alcoa.That makes no sense and a lot of coaches will not schedule like Greeneville has because of it.Alcoa,Morristown West and Science Hill for a 4A team is a load.
you are correct. the downside is punishing. Is it really smart to schedule someone you will likely meet in the playoffs. Most coaches dont want to. So how many power programs do we have to chose from in 6a?? Slim pikins. I liked the other layout from that standpoint but can remember the weaker conf's sending district leaders to state with 4 wins??? who knows. The best answer is building up your conf. If TH, South and SH is good. You dont have to travel far to get tested. #2. Db goes to lengths to schedule strong non conf schedules but teams like Faragut and SC have been up and down? How do you plan?
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Loosen the schedule? The schedule is a joke. It has nothing to do with needing something to complain about. The moment the new regions and classifications were announced it was obvious that JC's schedule would be very light and the program would have to challenge itself in the OOC. This team finds nothing out about itself by playing this schedule and even with a 10-0 record won't know if it can handle a good 5A team.
You rattle off Mo West and Heritage as though they compare to Maryville, O.R, Farragut, DB etc. Teams that JC will have to face when it matters. Mo West is going to be on the schedule regardless, we deserve no credit for playing them. We have choice when it comes to who we decide to play in the OOC. Padding the schedule just allows folks to beat their chest but does nothing for the actual team or the program.
Sure you plan this when you make a schedule. Like playing in the SEC, you look at the comp within b-4 you set the non conf. Its just smart. The problem is that so many teams are hot and cold from year to year. Look at Greeneville and Beardon. This years team not close to last years team. What year did you play and I guess you won all of your conf games and played Maryville and others on the OCC.. I dont thinks the O.R's have done anything lately and how far has Db made it?? I guess Maryville should only play all OOC games to give everyone a test. They only get to play 3 themselves and 1 will alway be Alcoa. Maybe we can beg for 1 of the other 2.
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After 2 weeks of action, the IMAC is looking pretty good. Jeff Co is 2-0 with wins over Heritage (who beat Hardin Valley) and a very skilled TN High team. Morristown West is also 2-0 and beat Fulton bad and Greeneville (which makes them a lot of people's favorite team this week). Sevier Co. has 2 impressive wins, as does Cherokee. The race for the crown looks to be wide open. East is 0-2 and the only winless team in the conference, but they did get the offense going against Bearden.
you are correct but only 2 quality wins in this group. Picture will get much clearer this week as JC takes on SC. The winner will most likely fight it out with Mo West for the conf title? Could the top 3 beat each other up like last year and share the title?? Cherokee and East most likely fight it out for 4th this year. Cherokee being better than most thought while East is weaker than most thought up to this point. I look for East to upset someone b-4 years out.
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With that schedule they should. I wish JC would have had a schedule like that when I played, we would have went undefeated every year. I don't know how JC plans to be prepared come playoff time when we pad the schedule with 4A teams and terrible 5A teams. Every effort should have been made to put DB on the EVERY year along with another perennial 5A playoff team.
Just playing Sevier County isn't going to cut it.
lets let them walk b-4 they run. At the end they will be ok with this schedule. . we will find that TH and Heritage are better than most think!!! Heritage just kicked 4-5 seed from last year in Harden V. who killed Beardon the week b-4. The fact is that the rules have changed and until they change the playoff formula who can blame a program as a couple of non conf losses can kick you out of the playoffs. I think Mo West will bee a tough test as they just beat Greeneville. Let me see, we complain if we lose but we complain if we loosen the schedule a bit???????? And lets not forget, the past coach did this. not the present!! Could it just be that this team is just better than most thought?
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As long as it's the Jeff County Patriots, I'll live.
I think it was a little of both. Jeff County did a great job of stopping the Viking running game...maybe 80 yards rushing for the Vikes? Tennessee was decent through the air, but they still need to improve a lot. Several receivers were open but were either overthrown or underthrown. Several times it was just taking Tennessee High a little too long to execute and the Pats were able to get after the qb. Penalties hurt Jeff County and Tennessee High. Harder to get first downs when you start out 1st and 20. Jeff County had several offsides penalties. But, this was a pretty close game in the second half and Tennessee fought hard coming back after trailing 14-0 to lead 21-17 at one point. But, man, it seemed every time Tennessee made a big play Jeff County would turn around immediately returning the favor. Exciting game to watch.
you are very correct, very fun to watch. TH took the lead and it was not 3 plays until the JC QB runs 65 to the one the get the lead back. I think TH will do well this year and would not surprise me if they dont upset one of the 6a teams in the area. Good luck going forward.
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Obviously a better grade of Patriots this year , eh '04? How did they limit the air raid attack of Coach Boggs? Was their D that effective or did the Vikes just not execute?
Jc is solid at everything they do. They must get better at limiting the penalties. . In week 0 they ran the spread and threw the ball to set up the run. This week we come out in pro style and run the ball. This was the first time that the QB had been under center all fall?? I was impressed with the never die attitude of TH. Jc had them on the ropes several time and could not put them away . I also give jC credit in how they finished after trailing by 3 in the 3rd quarter and fight to win by 14. In deed a different JC team.
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Warlock, who are some of the other players to watch for from Jeff Co.?
jc fans are not saying much these days. we are cautiously optimistic about this team. all I will say is you will get a better game this week than last. This team is better in everything they do than teams in recent past. The player you are talking about is just 1 of 5 players to watch. he may not even be the best rb on the team. we shall see.
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Cherokee had over 500 yards of total offense last night with around 350 passing. We did however give up a few big running plays from their running back, he was very fast. I feel we have the best passing quarterback in East Tennessee(almost 2000 yds last year as a sophomore. We have about 6 or 7 guys that can catch it as well.
not even close, who did you pay, claim that when you compete for your championship. Finishing 5th in your conference does not get it done. playing down 2 divisions and running up stats does not count for much. at the end of the day solid player but not near the top. west greene is not greeneville!!!
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If Carmichael was a passing QB then I could see your point, but he wasn’t. It is much easier to replace a good running QB than a good passing QB. Don’t get me wrong, he was a great player and helped Greeneville a ton. He will be missed, but it’s not like Greeneville sucked before he got here (State Semifinals against larger schools and a State Runner Up). Most of those guys from last year’s team are still playing for Greeneville this year.
My point isn’t that Greeneville won’t miss Carmichael, I just want to make it clear that Greeneville wasn’t just a one or two man team. Hall and Rollins are studs and both are getting major D1 looks, the new running back Shuffler runs a 4.38 forty, the QB has a ton of experience for a junior, the kicker is an All-State caliber kicker, and they return the vast majority of the players off a very good team. The poster I was responding to wants everyone to believe that Greeneville only won because they got a transfer from NC, and that simply isn’t the truth.
Greeneville is rock solid again. My guess is that you are the favorite to repeat as 4 a champs. You may have to work for it this year as you walked through the playoffs last year. good luck
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So, Greeneville’s success was the result of a couple of players? I guess you are forgetting about the other college prospects who are just now seniors.
You can pick SH to win if you want, I don’t care about that. But, you have done nothing but try to dismiss Greeneville’s accomplishments because they had Carmichael last year. Look back at the scores of the Greeneville games last year, and tell me which games they would have lost without Carmichael. He was a great player, but Greeneville dominated virtually everyone last year. You don’t dominate because of one player, you dominate because you have a great TEAM. In case you've forgotten, Greeneville was State Runner-Up the year before without Carmichael, and that was a very young team
I guess that may be like taking manning away from the colts. just one player. Hard to replace mr football in 4a. you may be underestimating the impact from 1 player especially at qb. last year greenevilles team was special. it will be the team that all greeneville teams will be compared to . Just like the 87 Jeff county team. fair or unfair... I also remember a number 11 player that was also pretty special. replacing these 2 will be a tall task. That being said, I will take greeneville by 10 but not over teams like Maryville, Alcoa, DB as i would have last year.
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How did the Scrimmage go yesterday? Im a JC fan and could not make the trip? How did each do ? Jc should be much better this year in all areas. Did they show anything? I figured it would be a great matchup. Cleveland having the great QB and JC having a good one themselves. Any Thoughts/
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The problem is he does need a new QB/Off coord but this is the same friend he went to college with. Will he make the tough decisions?? He may get a few out of the halls but I have heard that he may lose a few key players that plan to leave?? I also hear that key 8th graders are making plans to move to East/West. If this happens, he is doomed. I am interested, what awful things have you heard? Smoke/Fire???