Soxfan1

Since it's not the 80's anymore the HC should resign.  Allow the OC and DC to be co-head coaches.  Make all players play another sport and stop the stupid play football only way of looking at things.  The team's conditioning is from the 80's and leadership from AD and HC are that old too. 

There are great coaches on staff being held back by the 80's.

Sorry, I've been away for so long.  

Not sure why "exposure" is a thing? There are two middle schools in OR. The players from those schools go to the high school. It's not like you have to recruit those kids...

Haven't been involved with this thread but I have been following the story.  This coach was part of one of the worst cheating scandals in TSSAA history at Grace. His school received the largest fine in TSSAA history. (negotiated down) There was (and still is) a pattern of recruiting in the Powell/Karns area for Football, Basketball and Baseball. He has done things like this before.  It's 100% on his school system to remove him from the position of leadership before he does more or worse. They could have a new coach in place by June 1 and move on.

I don't get on here much these days but I think the problem with the stadium renovation is the leadership at the school. Who makes athletics decisions?  Gaddis? Green1 or Green 2? Principal? What are the priorities for stadium renovation?  The current playing surface is the best thing going up there.  Stands, press box, no visitor facilities all need work because the stadium is basically from the 50's. Does the "current" AD have the moxy to get anything done?

The basketball team will be better with the negative aspect of Middleton (who was kicked off for missing practices over and over again) removed from the equation. Good job Coach Green.  The team may roll all the way to the title now. Addition by subtraction.

He didn't quit...kicked off. 

So you are saying football players can't get faster without running track? I bet there are a number of high school strength coaches who disagree with you.

Not saying that.  I will say that a majority of schools don't have a "strength coach." They have the low man on the coaching ladder looking something up on the internet.  You can't get faster unless you learn how to run fast first, then add the muscle and then real running/competition.

Ok, let's just agree do disagree about amazing array of Track athletes who came through just UT and did both.  You would have to know something about both sports for this to be a level playing field.  

 

At OR the lifting program for football is good. Traditional get bigger stuff is fine. It is not speed focused.  (again, you would have to know something about this to comment with any legitimacy)

A speed focused program would have include "get faster" mechanics, technique and of course competition.  The only way to really do that in High School is track.

Wow, this is a crazy discussion.  Speed wins.  Ask the SEC.  Track makes kids fast. Ask the SEC.  OR has the one of the best "get faster" coaches in the state.  Check out what Roberts did at West.  Yeah, they are fast aren't they.  Those LB's, DB's, RB's should all do track every year.  Track lifts 3 to 4 days a week.  Their squat max's, clean max and Bench max all go up too.  The kids would get stronger and faster. Stronger and faster is a winner.  "It is what it is" doesn't cut it. If you want to win, really win.

It's not as simple as many people think.  The head coach for a sport must be totally involved in every aspect of their program, including the things administrators and board members "should" be dealing with.  There must be one person driving the ship (sorry) or the central vision and goals of the program won't be reached.

You all can have the BadMinton and Tiddly winks Trophies , we'll take all the ones that really matter , FOOTBALL . Even Baseball and Basketball is just something to play and keep in shape till FOOTBALL rolls around ! lol

A quality reply if you have an IQ of 14. Winning is winning. Any state title is tough to win. Baseball, basketball, track and soccer aren't watered down into 6 divisions like football.

 

LOL- Again, I had more playing time than you Sweet. Did Moore get that Knee prob worked out? If so, I am sure that a college football team  picked him up. Where is he playing- at Tech? MTSU? I mean he is the fastest in the Nation as someone just stated  earlier.

 

Moore runs track at ETSU

Fox is fast for sure. Bruce is even faster. OR doesn't have a running back as fast as either.

Place the kids from West (QB or Running back) on the goal line against those two.  West kids would be in the end zone dancing when the others got to the 10.  I do agree with you all that OR doesn't have a break away back, yet. 

Slow, Slow, Slow and kind of slow but looked fast against a slow team

 

Quick yes, great feet yes, straight line speed no

I'll say this again. Maryville has a back with  breakaway speed. Trousdale County had one. West had one. Henry County had one. Anderson County had one. Fulton has several. South Doyle has one. The list could go on and on but I'll stop. The big thing is that we do NOT have one and that's a huge problem. As far as track is concerned, that's a good point but I don't remember Shawn Summers running track. I don't think Shawn Bohanon did either. I don't remember Spencer Gulmire running track either. To be a championship caliber team we better have a running back with breakaway speed or one like Spencer who is punishing and with very good speed too. Right now we have neither and I don't see any on the team. Robertsville is actually faster than Oak Ridge High School and that's a problem at the moment.

#1 no one for AC is fast

#2 West guys all run track and Fulton guys too (see state track results)

#3 Gulmire ran track plus slow kids like McAddley

#4 Robertsville kids would get hammered in a race by the top 8 orhs sprinters (several football players)

#5 if the present kids on the OR football team want to get faster learning from Roberts (who knows his $hi%) plus lifting to get dynamic speed on the track team would make the difference you seek

This was a better game than I expected.  West's speed won over AC's power.  I said 21 points, good job AC.  Great season.

Oak Ridge's undefeated freshmen team being honored at the ORHS/Clinton basketball game tonight. The best part - - the already rowdy student section just got bigger.

An interesting choice.  Don't they usually introduce state champion VARSITY teams.  I guess that's what you have to do when there is virtually no recognition of anything athletic at ORHS.  Good job freshmen.  I hope you will be undefeated as SR's.

Soxfan you are correct but it also takes proper mechanics to run faster as well. When your legs and arms aren't moving as they should that's when the speed and agilities coach helps tremendously. No different than proper footwork for a QB in his drop backs

Wow, yes!  That's what they do at track practice. Proper mechanics on each step can bring a 4.8 guy down to 4.6 or 4.5something.

Sorry guys, the Camp Co, AC, Oak Ridge district has slow players.  Rain or shine West will win big.

Hey Sweet Science you hit the nail on the head with Fadnek being slow but I know Logan and several other Cats have already started working with a speed and agilities coach and weight training coach already. Getting a head start I guess.

I think the problem with the speed and agility coaching is the lack of competition.  The sure way to get faster is to work and race to get faster.  The competition component is missing from almost all private coaching situations.  Racing fast people is like running from the lion, get faster or get eaten.

The lack of speed in the entire district was on full display in the West beat down of Campbell County.  The OR kids that have a chance to be fast need to run track this winter and spring that way they get weights (getting faster specific) and a lot of competition and fast running.

Brandon Bonds huge improvement is a great example of what the winter and spring can do.

West's speed dominates this one by 21.  

Totally agree,good not great speed seen him ran down a few times.

Malik Hardy was as fast in track as a 10th grader as Matt Moore.  I wonder where he figures in? 

Whats the deal with all this its football time....

Thanks for the re-focus...pissing match officially over.

Great to see Serrano and Tennessee take a chance on McDaniels of Oak Ridge; got the news on Monday that Serrano agreed to let him walk-on. A well deserved opportunity for some of the best offensive stats in the state.

Wow, I saw this on vacation. Congratulations to Matt. I am shocked but happy for him.