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First time in 10 years no Rutherford Co team. Ironically, this is the first year of RPL play as well. State tournament looks a lot different for AAA. Interesting to see of this trend continues.

Any reports from Franklin vs Indy or Bearden vs Hardin Valley - both were scheduled to be played on Thursday

Not on the exact topic of thread but related:

http://www.lohud.com/story/sports/high-school/2015/09/11/guest-column-changing-dynamics-high-school-sports/72017218/

I hope that all coaches posting on the thread are members of the THSSCA, the voice of soccer coaches in the state.

Three organizations were present in this discussion: TSSAA, TSSA, and THSSCA.

Good discussion - broadening my understanding from different points of view.

This has to be one of the most civil discussions on a controversial topic that Coacht has ever hosted.

What about coaches who have other school duties in the spring? You would run them out of the coaching ranks by moving to spring, but that might be what some people want. Then they could hire travel team coaches for the school. No wait, tssaa took care of that with the coaching link rule they just passed.

 

My other thought is how many girls are we actually talking about playing on these bigger travel teams? I say if the better players are hurt so much by playing HS soccer and learn so many bad habits, why do they continue to play? Just go play travel soccer and not worry with HS.

 

What do you think would happen if basketball moved to early fall so they could play AAU in the winter and spring? Or we moved baseball to the fall so summer travel teams could play more in the spring?

 

I think this is a reaction brought on by a select few. This smells like HS coaches afraid of losing a star player to travel or a private school afraid of losing all their players to travel.

You are correct on many fronts in my opinion. Coaches would be effected. I would argue that coaches should not be the main stake holder to consider in debating the issue. 

Your other hypothetical scenarios are unrealistic because those sports value the high school playing experience. The powers that control the highest levels of soccer in the US do not. 

This is a reaction brought about by a select few. The question is would the sport benefit if those best players left? If you want to go down the hypothetical scenario line of thinking. What if the same thing was occurring in football? What if the best players in football left to play in another league of all stars? Would it be beneficial to discuss alternatives to that scenario or just "let them go play travel (soccer) and not high school"?

Seems you two missed my point. Do you see the level of training for your HS team as the equal to a SRPL/ECNL team? Do you believe these players are capable of maintaining all the skills just playing with your team?

 

I'm a bit surprised at your response. I can say with 100% certainty that David Braemer would agree that the training for almost every HS program is not on the same level as a skilled club team regardless of how good the HS coach is. The HS coach is simply working with many levels of skill in almost every case

Don't be surprised by reactions. High school coaches are often at odds with select programs and rarely work in unison with them to meet the needs of the players (and vice versa). Additionally, when select programs make statements that group all high school coaches into one category as "inferior" to select coaches feelings get hurt. Each program has it's own challenges and offers different opportunities for elite players.

We really haev to find a way to work together for the betterment of our sport on both levels or one will get left behind. I hope that the day of the elite players being forced to choose between high school and club is not approaching however I am not too optimistic with the direction we seem to be moving.

College coaches scout men's soccer in the spring because they are not in season. College coaches rarely attend high school matches in the fall because they are in season. If girls move to spring perhaps more college exposure will follow then again, showcase tournaments offer the best bang for the buck when it comes to seeing a large number of players at one time. 

Most reasons stated can be dealt with. When girls play at home, boys play away game. It would take just a little bit of creativity to resolve most of these stated issues. The biggest issue that I can see is practice facilities. Might have to use local facilities off campus. We have Fridays to use in the spring as an additional day to host games (for refereeing scheduling issues). Will there be issues with the field conditions, yes there always is. Solution - over seed. Most football fields in the fall are dirt by mid season. Asking the best girls' players to play both high school and elite level select ball, which they will do because they love representing their high school, is insane. We have four players that practice twice a week after high school practice and practice on weekends plus add additional games on the designated weekends. Injuries will accumulate as I know they already have for some. Coaching a team dealing with these issues is ridiculious. Resting girls that come back exhausted from extra play requires bending rules for the exceptional player - never a good thing for team chemistry.

When thinking about the sport's best interest, I don't see how this can't be a serious option to consider. We don't want our best players to leave for ECNL, Regional premiere league, etc. That would reduce the talent pool in the high school season significantly. While the non ECNL calibur players need to be considered as well, the significance of the high school sport would be greatly diminished without the best girls playing. I don't have all the answers on this however I hope that we make decisions that are in the best interests of the players and the sport - not the coaches.

Blackman over Riverdale 2-0

Oakland over Stewarts Creek 3-0

Smyrna over Lavergne 6-1

Tuesday's games:

6:00

Siegel vs Blackman

8:00

Smyrna vs Oakland

at Siegel Park

Seedings:

1. Siegel

2. Smyrna

3. Oakland

4. Blackman

5. Riverdale

6. Stewarts Creek

7. Lavergne

Monday:

Game 1 Lavergne at Smyrna

Game 2 Stewarts Creek at Oakland

Game 3 Riverdale at Blackman

Siegel - bye

Tuesday at Richard Siegel Park:

Siegel vs Winner of RHS/BHS at 6:00

Winner of game 1 vs winner game 2 at 8:00

Thursday at Richard Siegel Park

Finals at 7:00

Brentwood 1, Arlington 1. Halftime

Don't understand the two times Oakland elected to go for fourth down conversions in the first half when they could have kicked field goals. One was a 4th and 11. One attempt would've been inside 30, the other inside the 20 with the wind at their back. Kicking game that bad or poor gamble on coaches? Make one of two and you tie, make both you win.

Any score from Bearden vs. Hardin Valley?

Siegel 6

Franklin Co 0

Blackman 1

Oakland 0

Franklin at Brentwood 9/19 (Franklin -1)

Siegel purchased impact testing this year. It is a still such a tough call for trainers, doctors, parents, players, and coaches. Hopefully new technology will make these types of decisions more definitive. Until then, can't help but to err on the side of caution.

Two 2011 All-American Honors

Olivia Harrison...Houston

Jessica Hiskey....Franklin

 

Eight 2011 All-Region Honors

Olivia Harrison...Houston

Jessica Hiskey....Franklin

Chesney White.....Franklin

Teri Butler.......Baylor

Peyton Thomas.....Baylor

Gracie Irby.......Germantown

Skylar Brewer.....Farragut

Bethany Bunker....St. Agnes

Add:

Tori Hawkins (Siegel) to NSCAA All Region and NSCAA Academic All American

Siegel 4

Cookeville 0

Region 4AAA Championship Game

Siegel 2

Oakland 1

Sectional match ups:

Siegel hosts Cookeville in a match up of former District 7AAA rivals. Saturday 5:00 at Siegel High

Oakland travels to Soddy.

Region 3 AAA Championship

Siegel 2

Oakland 1

Saturday Sectional:

Cookeville at Siegel 5:00

Hard fought game tonight

Siegel 2

Oakland 0

Next match

Siegel hosts Columbia Central on Tuesday

Oakland travels to Tullahoma on Tuesday

Collierville 3 Germantown 1 in overtime....both teams had chances to win in regulation.

Houston beat Wooddale 8-0

No dist final..Collierville is 2 seed and Houston the 1 seed

 

More than likely Houston will play whitehaven on Tues at home and Collierville will play at White Station.

 

Both Houston and Collierville should easily play in Regional final next Thursday. The #1 seed will get an easy match to state. The #2 seed will more than likely have to travel to Arlington for a much more difficult match.

Why no district final?

I think most of this applies to the state tournament because they sell recordings of the game for fans.

Monday scores:

Blackman 3

Riverdale 0

Smyrna 11

Lavergne 4

Tuesday @ Siegel Park:

Oakland vs Smyrna (6:00)

Siegel vs Blackman (8:00)

Thursday Finals

7:00

PRAY FOR NO RAIN!!!!

I've had a chance to see Seegul(Canes made me do it), Oakland and Blackman all 3 were quality sides. I found it strange though that there was not a clear dominate team. Is most of the Striker talent spread out among the Murfs. schools?

Talent is spreading out a bit more than in the past. Siegel has players from TNFC, Brentwood, and Strikers. Most teams are young (Siegel is graduating two seniors, Oakland can't have many more than 3 that contribute) and lacking the ability to put district opponents away. Goals have been hard to come by in most matches. Should be a great district tournament.