bchsdramaqueen

Love this article. Jeffs - Because there is no process for accountability. There needs to be.

In the paper even today. "As for the ref in question, these Bears and others like them will always have the “what if†question to haunt them the rest of their lives because of what you thought you heard." http://www.clevelandbanner.com/view/full_story/17882381/article-Where-is-the-justice-?instance=home_sports

Correct...this game nor any other will be re-played .. Yes, we know. It was not meant to be a realistic suggestion.

From my understanding, the lead official was the one who called the foul. And thanks kmac for the gesture. BCHS appreciates you knowing the Bears should be there, but we can afford our own tix.

This is EXACTLY what I am saying. And absolutely alt1958. "Escalating the debate of what happened, by suggesting the player physically did something wrong, is bad form. Because everyone was walking to where they were supposed to be." If there was even a hint of a move toward a referee, I wouldn't be on here.

Baller, I wish there was a way to try, but I'm surely not the one to suggest it. I can hear the response right now. Ha!

Interestingly, this provides clarity and understanding in what my best friend (a long time referee/umpire) keeps telling me to help me feel better: It is ultimately a judgment call and depends on what a referee sees and understands at the time with the information he is given. I've never been one for conspiracy theories. Never, ever in this process have I thought someone "had it out" for Bradley. That's too dramatic even for this drama queen. In my opinion, and I'm not a zebra, the penalty on Monday was a mistake. However, I respect and value the role the officiant plays and also that he is NOT perfect. My ultimate question in all this, I guess, is why have the TSSAA and/or high school associations as a whole not given serious thought to some sort of a replay option on-site so that in the McMinn/Bradley case the ref could see the whole story as you did and why is there no existing appeal option to a game-ending (or, God-forbid, in other cases career ending or life-threatening) call such as the one on Monday night so that referees are sure to be as un-emotional, impartial, and consistent in their calls as they possibly can? As it exists, it seems as though there is little to no accountability (and thus motivation for an official to learn and grow) built into the system.

I agree about the complaining. It has been good for me though to have a place to vent and debate. It teaches me, a non-athlete, more about "the biz" and how stuff works. Good point about the McMinn comparison. Interesting to chew on ... Wasn't there a physical altercation there though? I am not clear on that one - I thought he kicked another player ... If Miles had actually made a move toward the ref as mkd ridiculously suggests, I wouldn't be on here at all. That ending would make sense. There's a lesson there. I said a few posts back that I thought the truth was somewhere in the middle of the extremes presented - Miles cursing in the face of a ref v/s Miles saying nothing at all. It makes sense to me that a player would mouth profanities behind a refs back in that circumstance. I have seen coaches, parents, and refs do the same for years. If we're going to enforce a total non-profanity rule though we need to actually enforce it. We're gonna need some serious duct tape.

Love it.

"I don't think any Bradley fans are really coming down on Blackman's team or really the fans. The Blackman team only did what they should do in the circumstances which is go out hit the free throws and win the game. The only way not to do so was to miss both free throws, and I would never ask a coach to suggest it to his team or any of that team to do so. That would be just plain wrong as well." Alt, I agree completely.

No one even suggested that the kid made a move toward a ref. That is absurd. False, false, false. The call was a supposed profanity directed toward a ref. This thread wouldn't exist if one of the teams had won the game instead of the referee.

Exactly.

I sincerely apologize for being vague. I did not mean to be back-handed in any way. I thought I was being clear. Let me speak it plain: I absolutely question the legitimacy of the win. As I said, I'm moving on; however, I stand by my comments. They were in no way meant to insult Blackman athletes but rather the opposite. Both teams deserved better, both equally wronged.

I agree, Blaze. Let's all move on. Much luck to your boys. They are solid ball-players who deserve to actually win their next game.

You never should have had to, Runnershigh.