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On 8/26/2023 at 9:30 AM, sportsfan53ray said:

Makes nine in a row for Adamsville. Enjoy it. Bobcats are working their way back. Two sophomores had 13 & 10 tackles. A freshman had 8 tackles. Selmer Middle 28 AJHS 14.

AJHS starts two 6th graders, four 7th graders, and a few 8th graders.  I thinks Adamsville will be fine.  Selmer Middle has 14 8th graders.  We will be ok.  

3 hours ago, WestTNHoopsFan said:

Is Mississippi a state that has the classes the same for all sports?

Yes they have all sports classified together.

With the money being generated by the four classes, the TSSAA will never go back to 3 classes in my opinion.  Mississippi is going to 7 classes next year which I think is crazy to say the least.  Some classes will only have 25-30 teams in them.  

17 hours ago, WestTNHoopsFan said:

Uconn miami....

It was the Uconn/Gonzaga game played March 25.

Did anyone see the UCONN/Gonzaga game?  There is a lot of discussion about the state tournament being watered down with too many classifications.  Gonzaga is an outstanding team and they got hammered by 30 points in the elite 8.  With the way the game is played today, that can happen to a lot of good teams if the other team is hitting three's and rolling.  Happens all the time at all levels.  It is just today's game.  Do some teams get in they aren't state caliber teams? Absolutely.  Do some really good teams get in and get blown out? Absolutely.  

12 hours ago, pioneer42 said:

That is a joke. Two four teams and a five team. You need to look at last years results. You got teams listed in Districts that don’t play. Only for sure game you have down there is a Bartlett or an Arlington now. It’s a train wreck. Why cater to a bunch that don’t care and play??? Memphis East also plays up so they may not be there either.

I'm not saying that is going to happen, but with the TSSAA you just never know how they handle Memphis districts and regions.  I really don't see the Memphis teams having but two districts in the new cycle.  It should be interesting. 

1 hour ago, StudCantrell said:

I made a few changes. This is my latest projection.

 

DISTRICT 1	DISTRICT 2	DISTRICT 3	DISTRICT 4	DISTRICT 5	DISTRICT 6	DISTRICT 7	DISTRICT 8
Chuckey Doak	Alcoa	Kingston	Brainerd	Sequatichie Co.	Cannon Co.	WH Heritage	Cascade
Happy Valley	Cumbeland Gap	McMinn Central	Chatt. Art & Sci	Bledsoe Co.	Jackson Co.	Liberty Creek	Community
Johnson Co.	Gat-Pittman	Meigs Co.	Polk Co.	York	Smith Co.	Westmoreland	Forrest
South Greene	Pigeon Forge	Sweetwater	Marion Co.	Monterey	Watertown	Trousdale Co.	Grundy Co.
West Greene	Eagleton	Tellico Plains		Oneida
Hampton	Austin East
	L & N STEM
DISTRICT 9	DISTRICT 10	DISTRICT 11	DISTRICT 12	DISTRICT 13	DISTRICT 14	DISTRICT 15	DISTRICT 16
Pearl-Cohn	East Nashville	Lewis Co.	Camden	Gibson Co.	Adamsville	Douglass	Mitchell
RePublic	KIPP Nashville	Loretto	East Hickman	Huntingdon	Decatur Co.	Mem. Business	Fairley
Stratford	LEAD Academy	Mt. Pleasant	Hickman Co.	Milan	Madison Acad.	Mem. RISE	Sheffield
Whites Creek	Independece Acad	Summertown	Stewart Co.	Westview	Scotts Hill	Trezevant	Freedom Prep
Cheatham Co.	STEM Prep		Waverly	Peabody	Central-Merry	Crosstown	KIPP Memphis
Harpeth				Liberty Tech	Ripley	Memphis East	Bluff City
							Wooddale

I think if you just swap Ripley and Liberty that could be the districts in 13 & 14.  They could send Ripley to one of the Memphis districts too.  Memphis could get three districts again.  Two four team districts and one with 5 teams if Ripley moves in.  Who knows with the TSSAA?

16 hours ago, westtn12 said:

How soon?

If I read correctly off of the TSSAA website, the districts and region alignments should be out before the November 17th board of control meeting.

Classification will be released tomorrow.  Districts and Region alignments will be soon after that.

Michael Odom did a really good job of breaking down the possible new districts.  It looks like in 2A Memphis will only have two districts this upcoming cycle.  Adamsville, JCM, Liberty, Madison, Riverside, and Scotts Hill could be a new district.  Huntingdon, Gibson County, Peabody, Westview, and Milan could be another district.  Not sure where they will put Camden and Ripley.  Those two districts will likely be Region opponents, with the sectionals coming out of Memphis.  That looks like a pretty good scenario.  

Enrollment numbers are out!! Anxious to see the cutoffs.  Several schools will be moving classifications regardless where the cutoffs are.  Should be interesting.

At the administrators meeting this week, the TSSAA announced that all enrollment numbers are in and they are waiting for the state to verify those numbers.  That should take a few days to get that done.  As soon as they are verified the numbers will be released along with the classification breakdowns.  District alignments will soon follow after that so all schools can look and see if the want to appeal, or move up, etc.

On 9/24/2022 at 10:40 AM, sportsfan53ray said:

In the TSSAA member directory Adamsville has an enrollment of 550. If correct, 3A ???

Our (Adamsville) official enrollment that we turned in a couple of weeks ago is 445.  We lost a lot of kids to Covid and they just haven't returned.  

Once they are in and some simple math we should know where the classification breakdowns should be.  I think a lot of schools are anxious to see where the cut-off numbers will be this time.

When will the enrollment numbers be added to the enrollment report?  When all the schools are accounted for?

On 8/19/2022 at 3:09 PM, pioneer42 said:

My take is this. Gibson County has beaten Collierville and Bartlett last year. South Gibson also beat Collierville.  Bartlett and Collierville is what 2750 and 2850 respectively and the two biggest schools in the state. Gibson County is 475. Peabody is a 1 A football school and beats 4 A regularly. My take is this and I am not a fan of this at all. But if you want enrollment numbers closer make 5 or 6 classes and have 8 Regions. I would be much more in favor of that than making A and AAAA much weaker and making AA and AAA much tougher just to even out Districts. As a general rule, teams that can’t beat schools bigger than them are not going to beat a lot of teams the same size. 

Gibson County girl's basketball and Trenton football are elite programs.  Of course they are going to beat teams who have larger enrollments.  Why is it ok for Adamsville, Scotts Hill, and Riverside to go play across the river, but not ok for Gibson County?  If Gibson County is beating schools that have 2500+ enrollments on a consistent basis, why are you worried about schools that basically have the same enrollments?  Plain and simple, you don't like being in the same district with Westview and the substate with Loretto and Summertown.  I wouldn't either.  I guess we will see in a few months where the new enrollment numbers align us with.

1 hour ago, pioneer42 said:

A bad decision was made from the get go. Tennessee’s population is not geographically intact to have four classes. 83 schools divided by 16 is 5. That means all the schools better be evened out about perfect just to have 5 teams in a District and they aren’t.  That is the reason you have 3 and 4 team Districts. All just to make more money. The proposal which is a bad one is set to redo the whole playoff system and make 2 classes easier but lose 4 teams a class in the state tournament and make the other two classes beyond brutal all because they made a mistake the first time. This is all just so the TSSAA can make more money. All they are thinking about is making themselves money and don’t care about the schools that has to schedule and run all over the state to try to make the nonsense work. Bottom line is you have a governing body that could care less about anyone else but themselves just like the one in DC.

Geography doesn't support 3 classes either.  Unless, you think it is fair from a competitive standpoint that schools with almost 500 more kids are playing in districts with smaller schools.  At least with 4 classes schools are playing against other schools with the same enrollment numbers.  Who knows?  When the numbers come out districts and regions may be different.

1 hour ago, pioneer42 said:

Go back to 3 classes. I wouldn’t have moved it to 4 classes to begin with. I would have kept it like it was. There were small Districts in 3 classes. I didn’t like the proposal for sure because it makes AA and AAA extremely harder than A and AAAA. A lot of posters on here knew the problems it would cause. I have never liked the everybody gets a trophy and TSSAA gets a lot of ticket sales from a bunch of championships plan. 

I understand why you don't like the the 4 classes.  Gibson County has to run the gauntlet now to make it to state.  When you have to go through Westview, Union City, Huntingdon in the district and then Loretto or Summertown in the Substate.  That is an extremely tough route.  When Adamsville, Scotts Hill, and Riverside had to play in a district with schools that had anywhere between 500-700 more students for 4 years that was brutal.  At least you are getting to play against schools that basically have the same number of students.  Tougher for sure.  I don't think the 4 classes are going away for the near future.  

3 hours ago, maddams said:

McNairy would have to lose a LOT of kids to drop to AA. They were well over 800 at last count 2 years ago; bigger than Chester, South Gibson, Obion, Covington and Ripley.

I can’t imagine they lost 120+ kids in 2 years

McNairy as of last week was around 700 kids.  It's just according to where the cutoff numbers will be.  I look for AA to add several teams in West Tennessee if the numbers are any where close to 2020 classification numbers.

Our district could add three teams and lose one.  It could look like this next year for us:

Adamsville

Scotts Hill

Riverside

Madison

McNairy

JCM

Liberty

The northern district could be: Gibson Co., Westview, Dyersburg, Milan, Huntingdon, Union City, Trenton.

Should be interesting when the numbers come out.

5 minutes ago, maddams said:

This is a hard discussion to have on message boards because most people view the classification system through the lens of what benefits their school the most.  Gibson County would benefit from going back to three classes - they would get away from Westview. Lawrence County is better off with a four class system because they no longer have Murfreesboro teams in their region. You make some good points as to why the three class system was better but it’s possible to make equally valid points about the benefit of four classes.

Absolutely!!  I know that Adamsville, Scotts Hill, and Riverside love the 4 classification system.  We were in old three classification with teams that had 500-600 more students than us.  It was a breathe of fresh air to be with schools that have the same enrollments as us.  Gibson County, Westview, Union City, and Huntingdon is a tough district, with Dyersburg probably being added after the numbers come in.  Plus, their substate is Loretto or Summertown.  Very good girl's teams!!!!

Dyersburg will more than likely be added to the Gibson County & Westview district.  That will be the hardest district in girl's basketball in the state without a doubt.  

I think there will be some changes to several districts.  If the numbers stay close to where they were a few years ago schools like JCM, Liberty, and McNairy may fall to AA.  Bolivar may move up to AAA also.  So, there could be some new faces to some of the districts.  It will be interesting to see where some of the enrollments fall when they come out in September.

32 minutes ago, pioneer42 said:

Memphis is combined into Region 7 with the Decatur County, Adamsville Scott’s Hill District Gibson County and Westview’s District would be in Region 7 like they have been for years if they did put Memphis in 2 Districts or they swap Gibson County’s District with the Adamsville Decatur County Scott’s Hill District, who are closer or right on the river I would assure you Region 5 will be doing cartwheels if Gibson County’s and Westview’s District gets moved to Region 7 and gets out of Region 6. Means Summertown and Loretto wouldn’t meet a Gibson County, Westview or Huntingdon in sub-state. Don’t know what will happen. Who knows. 

If JCM and Liberty move to AA, one possible district will consist of Adamsville, Bolivar, Madison, JCM, and Liberty.  Scotts Hill and Riverside will go north and east with Camden.  That geography works better in my opinion, but who knows.  Memphis will keep their three districts I think.  We played them this year and there were no cancellations or postponements.  We will know more when the numbers come out next month.