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Leaving this here.

https://x.com/ChandlerTygard/status/1753886536959988206?s=20

There was no call out to wrestlers across the state.  Not one kid from West Tennessee at all.  

13 out of the 20 boys were Chattanooga area kids.  (7 from Baylor)  One of those has never wrestled in TN.

Great example of how the rich get richer.

3 hours ago, Ummmno said:

Just my opinion here, and it may be an unpopular one, but I think when Eslinger left and we hired a new coach it should've been one from in state. 

 

We have one FROM this state who competed at the highest levels and isn't currently coaching at the NCAA level. Phillip Simpson. 

There is no way that the powers that be from "the Mecca of wrestling in this state" were gonna allow UTC to bring in a coach from Middle Tennessee. Especially a Simpson.

The former head coach drove the program soft with the good ole boy recruiting and rah rah motivational speeches. 

No matter who took over, the culture change needed to produce All-Americans is momentous.

What's funny is that so many people claim to be all virtuous here on this board, but many of them will report another team to the TSSAA in a heartbeat if they find something wrong.  Seen it.  Lived it.

Yes, weight certifications are stored in Track.  Yes, Bradford wrestled a weight class too low.  I expect his folks didnt know any better. No, no one really cares though.  I bet a huge percentage of kids at NHSCA do that.

It doesn't matter how stalling is called.  Top guy riding hips, bottom guy doing whatever, backing up, it does not matter.  Just decide and call it the same way consistently across the board.  That way wrestlers and coaches know what to expect and can make adjustments.  

I never denigrated any ref or the profession.  I respect the guys who wear the stripes.  It's a hard job. 

Oh...and cobra is a clown.   LOL

21 minutes ago, Greenhorn said:

Guess you told me ! 

He's pretty tough.  And smart.  I'd hate to debate him for real.

Calm down Karen.   I was trying to empathize with you and follow along but alas, you lost me at soccer.  I will say however, that I never thought of the "kiss my rear" approach.  (seems legit)

I never said that our referees don't have a hard job.  That wasn't the point at all.  The point was the inconsistency from match to match between different refs.   Coaches and wrestlers are all confused these days about what is stalling and what is not.

As for "refs don’t owe you or the fans crap".    WRONG   Just like coaches and competitors, refs owe the sport the best job they can do. 

There should be an initiative to make the stalling criteria more definable and more explainable.  Right now, lots of different guys across the state call it differently.  

1 hour ago, DAKEKO said:

I was told it was a trapped arm mat return and the kid broke his collarbone.

Arm was trapped for sure.

Dear Refs,

STALLING - Will all you guys please have a meeting?  Get everyone in the room and decide what stalling is and how you are going to call it consistently.

THEN - Tell the coaches and fans about your decision.

Thanks,

EVERYONE

Why did the ref call injury default?

I'll get some haters for this but stay away from Chattanooga.  They have four major teams.  Two public and two private.  Any other team in the area has to compete with them for athletes and resources and those four programs already vacuum everything up.  This is assuming you want to end up being a head coach.  As someone pointed out, Soddy Daisy used to have an excellent team but even so, only two teams from each region end up going to state.  

If you are from Bakersfield, you (and your wife if you are married) will enjoy the Nashville area much better.  There are frequent opportunities in middle Tennessee for head wrestling coaches.

I love the idea of Lincoln Memorial, but there is NOTHING up there but trees and wild animals...and meth.  If you want to get as far away from civilization as possible and still have a job, LMU is an option for you.

Same day as TN FS/GR State.  Darn.

I think Kage Williams lives in NC.

4 minutes ago, Thethunda190 said:

 With the number of wrestlers Tennessee has you need both AAU and USA working together not competing against each other.  

Funny you should say that........

Hilarious.

39 minutes ago, PurpleWrestler said:

But to say he only does what he wants is not accurate, there is a board and they do meet and vote on things. This is not 100% his decision. And like you said, there is always the option to vote new members in, but I don't see anyone wanting to stand up and put in the time that he does. So let's cool it for a bit, allow him to provide more information and have civil discussions about all this.

Why then the clandestine nature of operation?  Why are so many meetings held behind closed doors?  How do we know that we need to vote in new members when we don't really know whats going on in all those closed door meetings?  What are the issues that are coming to the board for a vote?  How did our region director vote? How did others within the leadership vote?

I'm sure that someone will whine about the following statement but I have seen the Baylor wrestler get "chippy" on many occasions.  Especially in close matches or when he is losing or loses.  I imagine they will curtail that business at the next level.  And still no excuse for people to cuss at him from the stands as I heard happened.

As far as the Arlington wrestler is concerned, the clapping had nothing to do with anything.  He received two unsportsmanlike penalties prior to the clapping.  I think two unsportsmanlike penalties by the wrestler in the same match equals disqualification no matter the circumstances.

Abhorrent.  There is no excuse for that kind of behavior.

17 hours ago, JSamson7 said:

It's not personal, but it seems if you criticize anyone then there's always someone "mad". 

I know right?  Geez! 

1 hour ago, JSamson7 said:

I'm just saying, if you're going to put your rep on something like a prognostication with inaccurate info then prepare to get criticized. It's not personal, but it seems if you criticize anyone then there's always someone "mad". 

You'e not supposed to be a d$%k when you have constructive criticism to offer.  Not personal of course.

At what point did Eslinger give his motivational speech which gave them the willpower to win?  Glad that era is over.

8 hours ago, slapdamat said:

Just a point of ref.... Ohio, 5 sessions $15 each session.... or advance purchase $75 lower bowl or $55 upper for an all session pass.

Ohio is exactly who I was talking about.  And they have fans.  Real fans.  They could have the Ohio State Tournament in a literal pig sty and tons of people would still line up and pay decent money to get inside.

2 hours ago, JSamson7 said:

Rethink your wrestling IQ then, this list has some of the best coaches in the State voting yet for whatever reason you disagree.

That's okay though, I'll go with what I know and the coaches who agree with me that help decide this list.

So insult my wrestling IQ all you want. No disrespect intended to PF, but i havent seen where they have wrestled any ranked AAA team this season.  No emperical evidence out there.  I just dont think they can beat Oakland who was mentioned, or Brentwood for that matter.