DonDraper
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6 hours ago, TNFootballFanatic said:
If the right coach was just hired at cleveland, watch out! They will be top two in that district in the very near future. IMO Cleveland is a top five job in East TN. City School, community that wants to win, facilities, plenty of athletes, etc. Let see how long it takes to turn around....
Had the right guy in Crawford. Hope the new guy does well but it won’t be easy. Lots of things at CHS outside of x and o’s that can eat a good coach up if he’s not ready to work hard at building relationships, instilling compassionate discipline and continually having a presence at the Middle School (without recruiting). It’s open enrollment with 2 6A schools and another 5A school in the county. The Bradley program is now very appealing to a lot of kids because of Coach Floyd and the type of offense they run. It won’t be an easy first year or 2. They have lost a ton of kids from the Middle School program in the past couple of years. Hope he realizes the challenges in front of him.
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4 hours ago, Booger said:
thing bout cleveland HS...most coaches bridge is on fire before they get there......who was the last HC that got love up there
Booger just sayin
Crawford had a ton from players, parents and administrators.
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8 hours ago, Booger said:
thinkin them blue raider fans have as much reason to b excited as they had in quite sumtime......and Booger excited for them......lotta athletes up there that should allow him to produce fairly soon.....if Wheeler brought sum politickin skills with him and them old salts that r stuck in the past up there can quit tellin him what Benny did in the early 90's every time they see him...this guy just might b what Cleveland has been waitin on.....Booger cant wait to see what he can do.....football is always better round these parts when cleveland can compete
... if Wheeler got a free all u can eat dinin pass clause at that Keith Street Hairless Bistro.....blue raider nation could see a rare combo win gainst Bradley Central & Ooldewah this comin season .....but just as long as he can beat BC
....one thing is for sure....the local Santek Garbage & Cash a Check power players bid for suprimacy is once again at full boar
Booger just sayin
Gonna take a couple years to get that program turned around. It won’t get turned around unless they can stop the Bear pipeline from the Middle School. It’s not gonna be easy as long as Coach Floyd is at Bradley.
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21 minutes ago, fooseball95 said:
Kids didn’t leave because of the offense Cummings ran. Cummings only ran the Veer his first year at Cleveland. Kids left because nobody liked him and the way he ran things. Kids, parents and even other coaches didn’t even want to coach along side him. He wasn’t even like in the community.
Gotta be the right “fit” at Cleveland regardless of x and o’s ability. Best of luck to him.
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1 minute ago, DonDraper said:
I played soccer
And fooseball has the inside track.
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1 hour ago, 05juneman said:
Why don’t you put in for the head coach job at Cleveland coach Draper
I played soccer
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1 hour ago, fooseball95 said:
U my friend could be right
If they live in the city a move to the county in Bradley bus zone should get him eligible.
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2 minutes ago, fooseball95 said:
If I were a betting man, id say we will be here in 3 years or less talking about him leaving Halls and going back to West or somewhere else. What u think Draper?
Probably so. Hope he does well there. Interesting to me that another poster referenced Halls being glad the previous guy was gone. The Cleveland kids loved him and respected him while he was here. Just goes to show that finding the right “fit” is important and that a record at another school is not an indication of success at a new school.
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48 minutes ago, HTV said:
I know Scott well. He's a darned good football coach. You don't win state championships not being able to manage a staff and connect with coaches and kids.
Nope, his Cleveland experience wasn't good, and there were a lot of factors both on and off the field that came in to play. It was best for both he and Cleveland to move on and both get new starts.
I get that you are a Cleveland guy, and that's fine. But don't try to tell me that Scott isn't a good football coach. His record says differently.
His record at CHS was 21-21. 0-4 vs Bradley, 2-2 against Walker Valley and managed to wreck one of the most talented group of middle schoolers to come through the program in addition to dressing 45 kids this year. His record at Cleveland speaks for itself and that is all Cleveland folks give a darn about.
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29 minutes ago, BarneySox2007 said:
Did Cummings leave on his own free will or was he herded out by the fans or did something else happen?
I think he left on his own but it had been a rough 2-3 years I think. He said as much to both the Chattanooga and Cleveland papers. Hope he does well at Halls. Cleveland job on paper is great but the County is open enrollment and if you start losing kids from the Cleveland Middle School it’s hard to get the train back on the right track. Bradley is the “cool” program right now because they have a coach the kids respect and play hard for and the program is winning. They better keep Coach Floyd at all cost because he’s a good one. Whomever gets the Cleveland job will have to make his first 10 priorities keeping CMS kids.
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14 minutes ago, OrangeTiger said:
Funny how the last 2 HC have both left after 3-4 years to return basically to the same job they had before. Sounds like Cleveland may be a difficult place to work..... With that being said our own Fitz will probably end up taking this job. Would be a good hire for Cleveland but we would hate to see him go.
I doubt it’s him. I think they will go younger. Would be fine though.
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11 minutes ago, fooseball95 said:
I’m off my soapbox now man but glad ways are parted and we can start a search. I’m hearing Redbank coach wants the job
Kids liked and respected him. They liked and respected Bosken too. I must say I think Adam Renshaw is deserving too. He’s a good man and solid coach. Probably should have gotten it last time. I personally think a recent former qb would be a great hire too but he would be awfully young. Will be an interesting process. Cleveland is a great job if you can keep Middle Schoolers headed to Cleveland High. Gonna take a couple years to right the ship.
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17 minutes ago, fooseball95 said:
It’s hard to discipline players whenever none of the players like you and don’t want to play for you. Lol, they need to throw a parade celebrating him leaving
Geez Foose tell us how you really feel!!! Hope they get the hire right this time.
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20 minutes ago, FootballFan51 said:
Team was very undisciplined under crawford & have been since. I think the lack of discipline is a huge reason for the program’s downfall, but Cummings offense (or lack thereof) was a big factor in losing players too.
Cummings didn’t run the veer for the last two years. They were straight up spread. Discipline was also not a problem under Crawford. The real exodus of players came in year 3 and 4 at both the high school and middle school. The failure to discipline players was a real problem the last 4 years.
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Just now, MarsBlackmon said:
I always thought Crawford was a great hire. Just my opinion though.
No one affiliated with the program would say otherwise. Sad day when he left.
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Just now, fooseball95 said:
Cleveland’s administration is the absolute worst at finding a football coach. I wouldn’t be suprised if they stunk this one up too
Don’t disagree. They have a valuable resource. Would be a shame to not use it but I think they have chosen not to at least 2 out of the last 3 hires if not all 3. Water under the bridge but they lost a gem of a coach and man that would have had the program at a very high level. IMO Brown, Fant and Bosken in no particular order would be good hires. I know the kids liked and respected Bosken and Brown. Obviously Bosken has taken the Boyd job but the kids loved him. Had he stayed, the roster would have looked different this year I believe.
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21 minutes ago, osunut2 said:
Great question, BT. I think he's a solid get for Halls, considering the circumstances. He definitely won't have the horses that he had while at West, so it'll be interesting to see what level of success he can have.
He should do fine at Halls. Dropping down to 5A will help. It’s a good day for a lot of the Cleveland football community as Well as Coach Cummings and his folks too I would imagine. It was a bad fit for both from the get go it seemed. Maybe Fooseball can get the administration to lean on his former coach this time round to help find the best fit for CHS. It will take 2-3 years to get things headed in the right direction.
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5 hours ago, BigTime1950 said:
Negotiations going on. Will this work. Can Cummings win at Halls? Is this a roundabout way to get back to Knox West.
Foose will help him pack.
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2 hours ago, apsugov7 said:
I worked for McCurry for 4 years and never once heard him cuss a kid or anyone during practice or games. That's straight up slander cakeboy, He has won 270 plus games I think he knows how to coach.
Did you work for him when he vandalized his own field house and would have been willing to let South Pitt students be prosecuted had any been arrested by mistake?
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2 hours ago, Cakeman said:
At least another Franklin County person has stepped up to the plate on the current situation with MacKrylon! I guess the others in FC love the way Mac abuses the players. 1985rebel seems like he might know the the ole macster!
This the guy that was at Marion when the fieldhouse was painted?
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1 hour ago, BarneySox2007 said:
You know what all these teams have in common? They all suck and every single one of them will go out and hire someone else just as bad or worse than what they already have. All those teams together didn't average two wins a year. Once a team gets as rotten as most of these have it would take a miracle man to get them turned around and the last time Iooked there aren't many of those guys around.
John Mullinax won a lot of football games. Good football coach and man.
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1 hour ago, BigStickDiplomacy said:
I see nothing anywhere else????
You are gonna get Foose all worked up. That appears to be for the Walker Valley opening. It is a Bradley County school which is what is listed as the employer.
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8 minutes ago, fooseball95 said:
Man U can say that again, I thought Cummings was gonna a good job but he’s done opposite. Not saying he’s a bad coach but he doesn’t fit here. They won’t fire him, he would have to resign and i don’t see that happening. I’ve got 3 rings and to see our program where it is, is a shame . He’s burned to many bridges with ppl here, youth league coaches don’t like him. We lost a ton of player this year, either by transfer, or just quitting. Basically played all year with the 3rd string QB and still managed to at least make the playoffs.
They made the playoffs by beating 3 region teams with a combined 7-23 record. Cleveland won’t ever be what it was but they should normally have enough talent on hand to win 7-9 games a year. A lot of quality kids have lost a passion for the game and focused on other sports and some have transferred over the last 4 years. That’s the worst part of the deal. If he stays Bradley won’t have enough jerseys next year. I’m not into making judgments just relaying facts. Never seen a coach so universally disliked by everyone I have spoken with. Feel bad for Foose and others that care deeply about the program. Feel worse for a lot of the kids.
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19 minutes ago, VolBall85 said:
THIS COULD GET INTERESTING........
Lots of Cleveland folks would help the former coach pack if he wanted to return.
Cummings to Halls?
in Class 5A & Class 6A
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A major problem at Cleveland has been that they have not been able to keep the “right” guy when they had him and they DID hire the right guy before Cummings. I don’t have a dog in the hunt and probably won’t attend another CHS football game but best of luck to Coach Wheeler. The kids and parents there deserve a good hire.