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  1. 22 hours ago, rebelwoman87 said:

    Here’s an answer: When Alcoa and Maryville get the green light to condition they immediately get to it. They don’t wait a week or two, they don’t take fall breaks off. They get after it. That’s why those two schools typically are playing the first weekend of December.  And have to remodel the trophy cases ever so many years.   

    The county schools are starting Tuesday May 26th. That’s the day that they were given permission to start. Same date as Knox county, sevier county, and Lenoir city. Can’t blame football programs for following instructions. 

  2. On 4/17/2020 at 1:29 PM, District12AA said:

    Some of you are really buying into the fear porn out there. The data is trending in the right direction. Ohio just announced they are having a phased reopening starting May 1. European countries are sending their students back to school. Don't let the mainstream media control you. Antibodies testing in California is revealing the virus is far more wide spread than anyone knew and that the coronavirus death rate is right in line with the traditional flu which is .1% while the Spanish Flu was 2.6%

    Big Clay Travis fan? 

  3. 4 minutes ago, BarneySox2007 said:

    You could very well be right, always enjoy your feedback. One other thing we have thought about that hasn't been mentioned is where will everyone park. Pull up that school on google earth and tell me where a couple hundred students are going to park at. That school was designed for a junior high school where the only one driving other than the teachers may have been Jethro. Wouldn't be a true county school if you didn't have at least one Jethro.

    They can probably just park them where the football field is now. 

  4. 24 minutes ago, BarneySox2007 said:

    It don't bother me what you say BigPurple because your not from here and picking up second hand or bias information. This is a 100% fact about Alcoa and you need to digest this very well because it was in the local newspaper. 17% of Alcoa's entire school system are tuition students but the high school as a whole is 28% tuition students. It was reported Alcoa has 684 students meaning 192 pay tuition. That's one heck of a jump my friend. I do take in consideration that the school is new and would be attractive to neighboring kids that seem to find their way there after going to the county schools through grade eight. If you are anywhere good at math as I am the lower grades 1 thru 8 would have a tuition rate of only 11.5%. That is a 16,5% jump at the high school level. Now as I said I'll give credit for a new school attracting families but for some unknown reason the male population at Alcoa has always been much higher than the female enrollment. Could it be something in the water over there or might it be the extra boys coming in from the outside to play football. I looked at the roster for last years team and the families I personally know which was 12. Out of those I know four do live in the City of Alcoa and eight live in the county. I guess the one thing that surprised me was 4 were from the William Blount Zone. I know those families well and only wish the best for their kids. I also know there are more but let's say 20 of those players are from the county and you add 20 students as a multiplier ratio to this it would register Alcoa at 1,084 kids which is enough to be in 5A. The T$$AA wasn't shy about a multiplier rule when the private schools were playing with the public schools. This all makes so much sense that we refuse to admit I'm right and keep on playing a game called "Taking candy from a baby and glorifying ourselves with rings and trophies to feel good in doing so". It didn't take a rocket scientist to figure out from that article in the paper about new stands and a turf field that Blount County has had their fill with it and plan on reversing this cycle known as the McClurg Heist.  Mr. Justin Ridge looked proud as a peacock in The Daily Times pointing out to the football field at all the improvements the county is planning on doing. That was as clear a message as you could of sent saying we want our players back. If that happens it remains to be seen but that article definitely was focused around athletics and the kids leaving the county system after middle school to attend Alcoa.

    None of those improvements will happen. There’s no way the county is spending money on a turf field. I’d bet money that Eagleton will never field a varsity high school team. The new school will end up being the county vocational center. 

  5. 1 hour ago, mountaineer said:

    He’s on a 25 game losing streak. His 2 playoff appearances were with 5 win and 3 win teams. Hendricks was a huge part in his success then. There’s not much coaching done on the sidelines by him. He can’t wait until the end of the game to tell how good of a coach he is and how terrible the players are. He’s ran off some great young coaches. If they bring someone in now they will win between 3-4 games next year. That Junior class is big in numbers and other athletes would come out. He will destroy that program if he stays. 

    It is bad right now. But those records were major improvements from where they had been. As far as coaches, I was unaware he ran off that many coaches. I know the one went to Maryville, but I’d say that has more to do with Maryville and less to do with Hammondtree. How many others did he run off? 

  6. 2 hours ago, mountaineer said:

    Time to bring the moving truck in! 14-68 in 8 seasons. Does not promote players to the next level. Does not talk to or send stats into media outlets. Has alienated most people that want to help the program. Nobody wants to hear about or cares about what happened in 98 with a bunch of D1 players. Nobody wants to hear war stories. If the AD does not do something then he needs to go too. It’s now or never! One more year with him and the program will be lost forever. 

    Its terrible where the program is right now. But Hammondtree has done some good things at Heritage: 1st win over WB in 21 years, first 500 record in over 20 years, and back to back playoff appearances. But things have obviously fallen off the last few years. I wonder if any quality coaches would even be willing to take on the job.   

  7. 22 minutes ago, BarneySox2007 said:

     I like your idea of having the games at Everett because everything is in place such as stands, parking and locker room. Also prefer hot dogs at a ballgame instead of tacos and tamales.

    Word through the grapevine is that they plan to have athletics at Eagleton. I believe this will help both Heritage and Eagleton. Heritage should drop to 5a or possible 4a depending on the size of Eagleton. Eagleton would likely be a 1a school but no bigger than 2a. 

     

    If they do have a football program games would need to be played at Eagleton. If the purpose is to re-create these small community schools then they need to play in the community. They would need some renovations, but they need a home field. 

     

     

  8. 1 hour ago, STARSNBARS said:

    HTV......Axlelee we ere payin' moore inn tackus two tha cownty fer thair kids caws thay down't shair eqwully wif our littull kidz.......Butt like eye sed.....Bless thair littull hearts.....and az ewe wur sayin.....:popcorneater:

     

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    And moving money for capital gains isn't rocket science either. If you don't like it, get out and vote for someone who will change the law. 

  9. 1 hour ago, HTV said:

    And you are missing the point that the city residents are paying city taxes for their own schools, and they are also paying county taxes to fund county schools that their children aren't attending, so the county is getting the same taxes from those city residents to fund schools as the property owners whose kids are attending county schools are paying.  

    It's really not rocket science.  

    Yeah the cities receive split dollars from the county, so to say all of their county taxes are funding county education is false. I'm not saying that the city is siphoning off revenue from the county through annexation. What I am saying is that people within the city usually state that the county should spend more if they want to fix their issues. The only means the county has to raise additional funds is through tax increases. The city on the other hand has the ability to annex to raise funds without raising taxes. 

  10. 37 minutes ago, HTV said:

    But again, all of those city residents and commercial property owners also pay, and have been paying,  as long as they have been in the city limits, county property taxes, too, and that eases the burden of services on the Counties.  So who really is and isn't paying their "fair share"?   

     

     

    You both are still missing the point. The cities can use annexation as a means to raise funds for education. The county doesn’t have the same capabilities. So when the response is “the county needs to pony up and pay for education” they don’t have the same methods to raise funds that the cities have. 
     

    Again, even with services provided, the city is coming out ahead. They’re not going to annex an area to break even or lose money. 

  11. 1 hour ago, HTV said:

    Yep.  And when a city annexes an area they also become responsible for providing services that no longer county responsibilities.  And annexed areas still have to pay county property taxes, as well as city taxes.  The county still gets revenue off of annexed properties.  

    Correct, but even with services provided, the city is still generating more funds; otherwise, they wouldn't annex the area. Yes, the area still pays county property taxes as well, but the point is the cities have a mechanism for raising funds that the county doesn't. This allows them to raise money without having to raise taxes on their residents. 

  12. 2 minutes ago, STARSNBARS said:

    Like eye sed sweetie hit don't envolve any rezzydents and thos fewchure bidnusses weal bee takin advaintage ov tha good ole citty fer thair suehur and goodur rodes......and look att thait goodur rode now... thainks two tha citty.....:thumb:

     

    Like eye sed we and ponyin' upp and payin' az much az tha cownty peepull iz.....Ewe know eye do git a nice warm feelin' inn sum, ways thait me and tha othur citty rezzydents ere axlelee payin' moore tords educatin' thes cownty kids thain tha peepull inn tha cownty.....Bless tha good peepull ov tha citty's ....:flower:

     

    Az fer az tha cownty o-mission, we down't waint two tear down whut we've allreddy bilt......evun if Mairvul Hi Skool haz parts thait ere twice az old az tha cownty hi skools.....:popcorneater:

     

     

    And you missed the entire point. Like I said, the cities have an unfair advantage when it comes to raising funds that the county doesn't. When they annex an area, even with the city services provided, they gain revenue through taxes, otherwise they wouldn't take the time to annex it. So the main point is, the city can raise money for education without having to raise taxes on their residents. 

     

     

  13. 1 hour ago, STARSNBARS said:

    Tha anneckshun iz onlee tha rode......Duz knott affect enny rezzydents......Onlee thay haiv knew pavemint and citty of Mairvul takes cair ov tha rode now.....And thait rode iz a lott nicer now.....

     

    And no hit's not fare....All tacks munny shood bee diss-tree-buted eqwully......orr if Blunt Cownty waints two bee fare.....Give all Alcoee and Mairvul rezzydents tha purcentige thait thay put inn fund 77 baick on our cownty tackus.....Now thait wood bee fare cents thay aint sharin'......:popcorneater:

    No, the city receives tax revenue from all the areas annex, at least that was the rationale given by a city commissioner. The annexation is on the road, and any future business they place on the road side would be subject to city sales taxes, after a 15 year window. So again, the city annexes to increase tax revenue. 

     

    If you don't think its fair, suck it up princess. It's a legal process that was approved by the county mayor and county commission. If the cities want equal split tax dollars, then both city schools systems should have to get budget approval from the Blount County Commission since they are receiving county dollars. 

  14. 42 minutes ago, STARSNBARS said:

    Welp lett me innurjeck rite hear whur tha rubber meats tha rode......

    a. Tha cownty duz knott raze tackus becaws hits unpopular =  no moore munny

    2. Tha citty peepull hoo haiv a voyce inn cownty guvermint, complane abowt dubble tackus, and wundur why tha Blunt Cownty Skool Sistem duz knott shair thair tacks munny eqwully wif tha citty skools = thay pony upp ennyhow popular orr knott.......:popcorneater:

     

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    You don't believe fund 77 is fair, I don't believe its fair the city of Maryville is allowed to annex all the way up to within 1/4 mile of Heritage, or along the entire route of the proposed parkway extension to expand its tax base.  

  15. 13 hours ago, STARSNBARS said:

    A lott ov goodur points haiv ben brawt upp.....Tha solewshun iz simpull inn my opinyun.....Lett tha cownty tacks payers pay whut tha citty tacks payurs pays and tha cood haiv lotts bettur skools, feeleds, and feeled houses.......Momma stroked a check two Scott Graves att Blunt Cownty a cupple weaks ago and tha rasculls ere steel knott sharin' eqwully wif tha citty skools.....We cawl hit tacksashun wifout representashun inn thes parts....<_<

    It is very difficult for the county to raise money, and the cities have a greater advantage when it comes to revenue. The county has trouble raising taxes because it’s unpopular, and people within the city limits, who have a voice in county government, complain about double taxation. When the cities want to raise additional funds they simply go annex more areas of the county, and expand their tax base without having to raise taxes on their current residents. 

  16. 21 minutes ago, BarneySox2007 said:

    Get out and vote them out of office. That's the problem with Blount County voters, they don't even know who their voting for. They just go in and pull the lever for the name they have heard before even if it was Hitler. The crew of people we have in there now are turning the Blount County School system into something from a third world  country. If any kids from those schools especially WB get sick from sewer gases or mold and those idiots turned a blind eye toward the situation then good luck when all that goes to court.

    That's still out of the schools' hands. Heritage assistant principal sits on the county commission and they were still unable to fund field houses. So there's only so much the schools themselves can do. 

  17. 1 hour ago, BarneySox2007 said:

    The days of Jack Lambert, Dick Butkus and Ray Lewis football are gone and if your looking for it in high school level your looking in the wrong place. Not sure what will happen out at Heritage but looking at the past out there it usually is a good indicator of what will happen in the future. I predict the leaders there will do nothing and the problem will get worse and eventually there will be an end to the football program and the same at William Blount in time.

    There was a push by both schools' athletic directors, school board, and even the director of schools to spend money to build field houses for both programs. This was money, as I understood, to be money the school system already had in an account to spend. Even though the schools support this expense, it was unable to even make it through the budget committee. So, what are the schools and central office to do when a committee of 5 people can shut down any request? 

  18. 1 hour ago, Distressedfan said:

    There no reason they should have lost to lenoir city Seymour william blount karns and they shouldn't lose to ooltewah this fri (which odds are will happen) isn't that a 500 season? Every one of those games mentioned above that were losses should not have been complete blowouts like they were either I do agree there is a lack of talent at heritage but you can coach up less talented players if nothing else for a couple of wins heck even one at this point would be a huge improvement over what is going on I'm a firm believer that hard work will out perform talent everyday of the week maybe as a whole nobody is willing to put in the hard work that it requires for any amount of success both players and coaches a like

    Heritage should have beat Lenoir City, but they lost to the other teams by more than 3 scores. You can't really say Heritage should have won when they were beaten by that large of a margin. Two of those games were close at half time, and I credit that more to the other team overlooking Heritage for a half before finally waking up to play. 

    Also, teams are limited in the number of contact hours either per week or year. You may think that's sad, but its all done in the name of safety. Most parents are concerned with the impact of concussions, and the limit on contact hours is an attempt to limit those. 

  19. 6 hours ago, Distressedfan said:

    I agree that it is time for him to move on it's sad to see that there is some kind of talent at heritage just not being used to potential now don't get me wrong not saying state title potential but definitely a 500 season or truthfully possibly a little better the jv team as looked 100x better than the varsity program but it seems like none of those kids seem to get a break on Friday which doesn't make to much sense due to they aren't going to ruin a playoff run or anything like that so why not instead of running the same three plays over & over & expecting different results I just don't understand why one that is supposed to be so good can't form a different game plan from week to week

    I feel like I’m somewhat knowledgeable when it comes to football, and I have attended most of heritage’s games the past few years, except ones over an hour away. This statement is ridiculous. Heritage absolutely has some major coaching issues, but they are also severely lacking in talent. They aren’t even close to a .500 program. Based on what I’ve seen, they don’t have a single player who could start for any of the teams they’ve played this season. 
     

     

  20. 51 minutes ago, rebelwoman87 said:

    Could the biggest problem possibly be coaching and not “poached talent” smh for the county schools? 

    I never said poached or in anyway insinuated anything underhanded was occurring. I simply said it was one of many reasons. If you’d like to return to my original post, I listed, what I believe, to be the issues at heritage. I placed these in order from most pressing down. 

  21. The success of the city schools is an obstacle for both the county schools. It has nothing to do with recruiting or anything unsavory. Parents make the decision to either pay tuition or move into the district to attend for both academics and athletics. 
     

    that being said, this is merely one of many issues for heritage not the primary cause. 

  22. 11 minutes ago, BarneySox2007 said:

    All of these are are all right but my close sources tell me your number 4. is more like coaches playing tug of war for players and planting the seed in their heads to go with the sport they coach. Bad situation considering who the main culprit is doing this.

    I don’t know anything about tug of war. I just know reports across the country say the same thing. Plus when I attend heritage football, basketball, and baseball games I rarely hear the same names being announced. 

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