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Catholic 2 - Farragut 1, final

Very well said, Impactdad.

Unfortunately, I think most of us are simply responding to the constant drone of complaints. Your approach is much more sound.

I am strongly on coniglio's side. One state champion is all tennessee needs in soccer, period. I played at Notre Dame when the AAA / A/AA split first happened (before division II existed). My first year at ND ('97), we won the A/AA state championship. Winning was fun of course, but it was somewhat cheapened because we did not play the best teams.

The following year (my senior year), we were moved to division II. Competition was significantly stronger and we reached the state semi-finals. I will always remember that season with much more pride than the state championship season. I wish we had been able to play in a single classification.

I have also coached at Catholic, during both the DII and A/AA periods. I had much more fun in DII playing some of the top competition. That is of course aside from the CAK rivalry and the games against Notre Dame, which were very fun in A/AA. Again, I wish I could have coached in an open classification.

Coniglio has already said it best. Teams and athletes should simply push themselves to be their best. They should extend their abilities as far as possible. If that means you win 3 games or 20 games, it should not really matter. If you want your community to start winning 10 games a year instead of 3, then get kids involved year round. Don't expect someone to reclassify all the teams that have done more work than you so that you can "win" too.

Everybody gets a trophy, right? It seems that public schools already have a very fair shot at making the state tournament...a) advance to the region championship game, and /cool.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="B)" border="0" alt="cool.gif" /> win the substate game. Private schools have the same path.

Tennessee is already in a minority in terms of the way it treats private schools (D-II). Most states have no split at all. I grew up going to public school (in another state). Some schools had good programs in some sports, and some in others. The public / private issue was non-existant, despite the fact that private schools were dominant in several sports.

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I'm sure you've sniffed this one out, but I know "abyrd" at Cleveland. This poster is not "abird".

I predict there is one more.

Just one Akula? I like your confidence.

congrats boys. 8 in a row.

I'm just curious... has the award ever gone to a coach that hasn't won state?

I believe Mark Leader was given the award a few years ago when the Catholic girls finished runner-up at state.

Is there really an epidemic of shin injuries? I think bigger shin gaurds lead to false security and more reckless challenges.

Congratulations to all these 9 teams for their great seasons. Tennessee placed 8 teams in the top 50 and 6 in the Top 20.

 

2. Brentwood

7. Father Ryan

15. Christian Brothers

16. Houston

18. Baylor

19. McCallie

38. Pope John Paul II

42. Knoxville West

43. Farragut

 

Congrats to all on a great and exciting season.

 

Also Knox Catholic was ranked 24th in the southeast region and Collierville 40th.

There are actually 10 teams in the top 50 list. You have 9 above, plus Catholic is listed at 47.

2. Brentwood

7. Father Ryan

15. Christian Brothers

16. Houston

18. Baylor

19. McCallie

38. Pope John Paul II

42. Knoxville West

43. Farragut

47. Knoxville Catholic

Catholic loses 4 and CAK loses 3, and while they are big losses (Derosa, Beckham, Ricardo [sorry don't remember the 4th]... Tarr, Cunningham, and Bonewitz) knowing that we are both bringing back 8 starters each from state final teams bodes well for the "Bluff" area.

Better than you think. Catholic actually loses 6 (Derosa, Beckham, Martinez, Wegryn, Trombly, Holleman). All were starters this year. In fact, the juniors and seniors that made up the majority of this year's team were starters on the 06' team as freshmen and sophomores that lost in the finals.

That pretty much sums it up. Catholic was all over the place, and kept the pace up the entire match. You could tell they were HUNGRY for that championship. I congratulate them on a game (and season) very well played. You all deserved to win, and my hat off to you!

 

I have a feeling we will see more of each other in the future, so we will have more opportunities!

Nice post coach. If no one has congratulated you, I'll be the first. You must be about 35-1 in playoff elimination games? Maybe more? I know you don't like the "1", and you shouldn't, but it is a heck of a mark to put on the board.

Congrats to Catholic. 42 goals for and 0 against in the playoffs. 26-2. One loss without 5 starters and one loss in a very close rivalry game. Both losses to AAA quarterfinalists or better. I think the second loss was very good for you. You do deserve a fairly high spring national ranking.

Quick... someone call TSSAA right now. Let us take all the finalists from each classification, seed them, and have a real state champ!

That would be great!

The basis of my argument is simple: KC couldn't hack it in DII and moved to DI where they at least could be in contention for state championships. Congratulations. You have now won the first state championship in school history - boys tennis, and you have a shot at soccer. Competition isn't nearly as tough but you get a trophy and a ring.

Let me guess, you are a Webb guy? Whoever you are, you have a strong resentment for Catholic. Catholic soccer was very happy, and successful, in DII. The soccer program was against the move to DI. Several DII East Region Championships and state quater / semifinal appearances doesn't sound like a team that couldn't "hack it". Frankly, I am thankful for the rivalry that Catholic has with CAK. It is healthy and competitive. But, in DII, there was BAylor, McCallie, Notre Dame, and sometimes Webb. Don't jump all over me. I respct Webb as well. They have had some very good teams. But, since I am working on the assumption that you are a Webb guy, I must throw in the fact that Webb would fall in the lower part of DII East over the last 10 years. That is nothing to be ashamed of, it has been an excellent region

Anyway, you people can argue public/private all day (and I am sure that you will), but the line that Catholic couldn't cut it in DII is simply false. Again, the soccer program was happy in DII. The school switched to DI because the TSSAA said that they met the guidelines and it is cheaper to play DI due to travel requirements of DII. At most schools, including Catholic, the general feeling is that decisions are based on Basketball and Football. Well, both sports were doing very well in DII as well. both on the verge of state championships. The general feeling was that these sports would struggle in DI against Austin East and Fulton. In fact, they have done well (and caught slack for it).

Knoxville Catholic should be on that list

The difference between Catholic and every TN team on that list other than JPII is state championships. Everyone on the list has multiple state championships except for JPII (and they have some of the seasons most impressive wins).

Catholic needs to worry about winning its last game, not rankings.

Now that the sectionals are set, does anyone know how the brackets look?

I am sitting here watching the Glasgow Rangers in the UEFA Sup final. Has anyone else ever noticed the parallel between Catholic - CAK and Celtic - Rangers? Rivals are located adjacent to each other (Rangers and Celtic used to share a stadium). The Catholic team wears green and white, the protestant team wears royal blue.

CAK needs to pick up Carling as a sponsor and Catholic needs to get some "hoops" (horizontal green striped jerseys) to complete the picture.

Fortunately, I don;t think we'll ever have to worry about the houliganism from our fans that the Scots are accustomed to.

CAK was never in DII. Catholic has never recruited soccer players.

Can we discuss the kids for once and not the classification issues?

No I'm not saying that. But let me ask you this would you rank them above the teams that make it all the way to the final 8 in Murfreesboro? Is it or is not why we have a playoff system.

Polls or rankings are simply opinions of the voters or publishers. If I was publishing a ranking, I'm sure I'd have Farragut above some of the teams advancing. That does not take anything away from the teams that advanced further.

A playoff is used to determine the state champion, semifinalists, quaterfinalists, etc. Not to generate a ranking.

2005 (Catholic was in DII)

Reg. Season - CAK (1) - Catholic (0) - First goal for B. Tarr

2006

Reg. Season - CAK (0) - Catholic (0) - Only boring game in the entire series

District Championship - Catholic (2) - CAK (0)

Region Championship - CAK (2) - Catholic (1)

State Championship - CAK (1) - Catholic (0)

2007

Reg. Season - Catholic (1) - CAK (0)

District Championship - Catholic (1) - CAK (1) - Catholic wins on PK's

Region Championship - Catholic (1) - CAK (0)

2008

Reg. Season - Catholic (3) - CAK (2)

District Championship - Catholic (3) - CAK (0)

Region Championship ???

Head to head:

Catholic 5 wins

CAK 3 wins

and 2 ties (including pk game)

State Championships:

CAK seniors (3) - Catholic Seniors (0)

bump???

Haha you know it. How did you guys do?

Catholic won 5-0

Oo I missed this one. We don't want to talk about your credibility. You are worse than chattanooga. bahahaha

reaction is fired up!

He was smart enough to wait until after the gme to talk.

But at least they showed up.....unlike the others!!!!!!!!!!!

 

If the score of theWest/ Farragut game is correct. I'll be waiting to see where Farragut ends up in the poll.

If you are implying that Farragut should not be ranked highly, then I would disagree. I am not a Farragut supporter, but they are easily within the top 5 AAA teams. 19-2-2 with a knockout overtime loss to a very strong West team is among the best seasons in the state.

Hats off to Oak Ridge. I did not think they would be back in a region final this soon.

Tough loss for Maryville. They have been very close to breaking through a few times in the last few years.