Merlyn

3 hours ago, H2Oman said:

I’ve been watching H2O for 40 years plus and there is no doubt we were never as talented as we were there for about a 4-5 yr span and I may never see it again, but the team I seen last night laid down from the opening kickoff.

 

I’ve been a Webster proponent and thought highly of Hackett ( still do) but that team was not mentally prepared to play last night, which is puzzling seeing it was senior night.

 

100% agree with a lot of these posters about Jimmy and joes, but a well coached team doesn’t lay down like they did last night when they are well coached.

Doesn’t mean I don’t think Webster or Hackett forgot how to coach, but last night was not a good showing by anyone on the team.

Not saying your wrong but there has been numerous times this year I’ve heard Hackett or the other coaches yelling where the play was going or trying to move someone to be able to make the play. Yet the players didn’t make the play. Not sure how you can put that on the coaches when they are literally telling them where the play is going. A couple years ago they would do the same thing but the players made the play. So, is that coaching has dropped off or talent has dropped off? Not saying it’s all on the players  because it’s not but it comes down to jimmys and Joe’s sometimes. Also as far as them being flat and laying down, did you happen to notice they was 2 offensive lineman down from prior weeks? That could have had something to do with getting beat so bad up front and at times not being able to block 3 with 5. 

1 hour ago, 3rdandLong said:

I have no issue with schools playing within the rules set forth. That being said, some posters want to promote the idea that some schools don’t have advantages as a result of these rules, which is asinine. Schools that gain athletes from larger schools have an advantage. That’s just indisputable common sense. 

Furthermore, stating the only out of zone kids that have played sports at Watertown (or any other school that’s an open zoned school) had a “hardship, past issues or academics” you are either being disingenuous or haven’t been involved with the inner workings of high school sports and are just simply naive to the truth. 
 

 

I didn’t say there was or there wasn’t. I just said what the policy was as I understood it. I didn’t mean to intrude on your eminence. 

13 hours ago, 3rdandLong said:

Watertown is in an open zoned county as well, much like Putnam. Nice effort though. 

Wilson County you have to file an out of zone request and it has to be approved. Normally requires some type of hardship, past issues or academics. 

I watched Watertown scrimmage both. Liberty Creek has talent but nothing to write home about. QB is good and the RB can cause some problems if he gets loose. Their OL/DL is small and got pushed around by H20. If Smith Co can keep them from passing then they should win big. If they can’t stop LC’s passing game then it could be an interesting game. If SC uses their size up front on offense they should be able grind the clock out of the game early and wear them down late in the game. 

2 hours ago, TigerTown12 said:

Why stop at 8? How about the last 40 for a better sample size

Reading over the Smith County / gville  boards last week some claimed that because gville  had won I believe 3 of the last 5 or something like that they had dominated the series. If we’re looking at recent history, going by gville poster’s standards, then what does that say for this series? Not much of a rivalry as I see it. Unless this week we’re going by the whole history of the series? 

1 hour ago, Roooster said:

Carthage will always find a reason to hate us/a reason we aren’t good/ etc. No matter if we ended up in the same region or not  we would still be the smaller school so that argument goes out the window

At least you admit it and already have the excuse ready for when gville does move up! 

1 hour ago, diesel28 said:

H2o defense will look different this week more speed,  Hackett has been living in the office this week .  

What’s the over/under on how many blitzes Hackett dials up this week? 

56 minutes ago, diesel28 said:

Any school can choose to move up during reclassification so I'm guessing the administration was not thinking this way.  All schools play the # game even H20 so I don't blame gville for crunching. Gville region is not very good but they do usually play some tougher non region games.

If they moved up voluntarily they would be in a region with big brother across the river and that game would actually mean something. They’re trying to avoid that so they can keep the “small school” stigma excuse a little longer. 

On 3/15/2023 at 11:18 PM, Roooster said:

I think Gordonsville will be more than a darkhorse. They should be a favorite

Gordonsville will be a tough out as long as they have Plumlee. She’s a sophomore with a strong freshman class behind her. Only question is will experience play in to it. Also in 2A don’t count Watertown out as a dark horse. They only lost 1 senior last year and 2 this year. If pitching stays strong they could sneak up on some people. For sure the most athletic team I’ve seen them field in a long time maybe ever. 

On 3/21/2023 at 11:25 AM, MichaelMyers76 said:

Didn't he get fired by his alma mater Smith County?

Yes. After 2-3 playoff appearances if that tells you anything.  

7 hours ago, wneely said:

My initial (and completely dumb) thoughts would be:

-Giles will easily win its region every year (and get #1 seed) — which means home playoff games, which also means $$$. Attendance for games is solid, GCHS-wise, but almost every home game is a tiny gate for away fans. Lincoln County (season opener) was far and away the biggest gate of the year. Without the regular-season big gate money, the extra playoff games certainly help.

Although they had a down season this year, there is a team in Southeastern Wilson County that may have something to say about that starting next year. I look forward to the battles that’s for sure. 

2 hours ago, croz6110 said:

What were the adjustments that TC made on offense last night?

They got a few players back from injury that allowed them to line up in wing t and play smash mouth. 

49 minutes ago, OnTheFence said:

With the exception of Webster's first year as HC, due to a bad health year for me, I have followed and supported him and this WHS program faithfully.  I have helped hold up that broken top rail at the gate at the old field for years.  Here is my take.  Webster has done nothing but raise the bar at WHS since he has taken over. He's had a couple/few bad years.  And believe it or not by record, this wasnt his worse year.  With this all being put on the table, Webster has earned the right to bow out when he likes. (If done appropriatley)  And with your post, after waiting till after the season to get on here, well I will agree, this team deserved better.  I wouldnt have a clue what intentions Webster had this year with moving Evans to OC, but I would like to think he was attempting to set up the future for him to have a lesser role as OC and have people in place such as Evans (life long H20 guy) I might add, That would make his transition out a little more simple.  When that time were to come.  Now, unfortunatley that move obviously didnt work with Evans.  Not sure there's another coach on the staff with more background with Webster and H20 than Evans, but that ship never got out of the harbor.  Hewitt has a long standing history, but the Hewitt ship never got off the production line back when he was OC, DC you name it.  He isnt an answer at all either.  Sorry if I offend, but Webster would definitely be throwing the towel in if he tried Hewitt at OC.  Webster does have some football soul searching to do.  Is there anyone else on this staff that could make this offense click?  Or does Webster take it back over or go outside the staff circle and try to find someone?  That's if he does anything with Evans at all.         

Good post. Although I’m not sure of the ins and outs about why it didn’t work this year. Was it coaching or was it players or a combination. Only the staff can look at things this off-season and figure that out.  I’d like to think there is someone on staff that can make this team go offensively IF this year is not the answer as everyone is saying. I’m not a coach just like everyone else on here so I can’t say for sure. There seems to be 2-3 other offensive coaches on staff. Can they call plays or run an offense? Do they want that role? Are they ready for that role?  Who knows. Webster is a smart guy and I don’t see him letting his “legacy” at H20, as some like to call it, go out like it did last night. Until next year I’ll just sit back and have my own thoughts and opinions on it all. 

If anyone thinks H2O isn’t gonna get Trousdale’s best shot then they’re crazy. Trousdale will play their best game of the year next Friday night. Now is that enough to win that is the big question and truly depends on which H2O team shows up. I feel like they will be ready and well prepared but then again like someone said sometimes I’m just dumbfounded watching them. 

2 hours ago, MolandTigers said:

I have no dog in this race, but region 4 seems jacked up. Giles County which is at the Alabama line and White House Heritage which is at the Kentucky line doesn’t make much sense to me. 

Only info I have is from wife’s side of the family who lives there but it’s  been rumored Giles will move up to 4a to be able to play more local region games. 

2 minutes ago, BoogerHillOwl said:

 

They have a decent amount of underclassman lineman. They’re not comparable to what they have now but definitely serviceable for 2A. QB’s Dad is the OF and basically has control of the offense plus has started helping with baseball. From my understanding they love it here. I don’t see them going anywhere for a while. 

Seen them at the JV game vs H2O. They have some good looking underclassman in the line. Not to mention the little QB they have. They will probably end up moving him to RB if I had my guess. They will be fine I believe. 

19 minutes ago, Cam615 said:

Smith County dropping to 2A could be a problem for several teams in our area.

Talking to people up there and with what they have coming up, the drop to 2A seems to benefit them as much as anyone I know of around the mid state. 

2 minutes ago, kingofthenorth said:

I knew that bum in their side messed up that call. 

Someone messed it up that’s for sure. I didn’t catch which official made the call/decision, I was dealing with my kid at the concession stand. I do know if I was H2O staff/admin I would be standing on my head Monday morning when tssaa opened to report it. Probably wouldn’t  change the fact but considering this was a play/decision that effected a region game with playoff seedings on the line not to mention keep the winning team in contention for 1st place, they would know how I felt about it and just how bad their officials are. 

4 hours ago, CCLHL08 said:

Yes and no. The penalty was called taunting before he crossed the goal line . In result 15 yard penalty once he started the taunting from the spot. Now if he taunted in the endzone after the play . It would have been enforced on the kickoff.  

NCAA you’re correct. NFHS is different. NCAA added their rule due to the penalty not truly punishing them. Therefore they made it to where the team lost the touchdown. I copied and pasted the rule below from NFHS rule book. 

NFHS 8-2 ART. 4 ... If either team commits an unsportsmanlike conduct or a nonplayer foul during a down in which a touchdown is scored, the opponent may accept the penalty and choose enforcement of the PENALTY:

a. On the try, or 

b. On the subsequent kickoff

18 hours ago, H2Oman said:

In all seriousness… can someone tell me if the unnecessary roughness call on a kickoff return for a touchdown should’ve been penalized on the kickoff or were the refs right on calling the touchdown back?

Little late on this but it was unsportsmanlike penalty, right or wrong for the call is a whole other conversation, the refs got it wrong on the enforcement. Should have been play stands and penalty enforced on the kick off. Which means TD is good. H2O should have had 6 extra points at the end of 4th quarter that this play took off. Which means they’re up 12-6, end of game. H2O wins. But…… if my grandma had well you know the rest. 

Just now, H2Oman said:

Surely they wouldn’t have Jackson traveling all the way to Harpeth and vise versa!

They really don’t line up any where in 2A. The current region probably fits them best even going to Harpeth. Wouldn’t be surprised if Harpeth got moved out though Smith for sure will be in unless something crazy happens with alignment. 

4 hours ago, TheGhostOfTheGhost said:

I disagree here as well.  Even with the talent pool being low right now in TC and low number of players, a player like TC Payne or a TT Harper would not let their team be 0-6.  They changed the whole culture of their teams.  Yes I know the saying, "One player can't win a ballgame," but whoever believes that should have watch these 2 guys play.  Calhoun and Gregory are both great athletes and I would want both of them on my team any day, BUT they are not the Elite Talent guys that have been mentioned.  And that's just being honest.  

Great explanation and post 

2 hours ago, JACKFAN said:

Funny. You must not have ever seen them play. The game against Macon calhoun played offense and defense. He literally played that game by himself. By the time him and Gregory graduate you will be eating those words. I said what I said……. Come on down and watch a game so you can see for yourself. 

They are good players, possibly higher level good, but not in the same category as the others mentioned. TC Payne, TT Harper, Scruggs and I’ll even say Wesley Satterfield, those guys changed a game just by stepping on the field by being so dynamic. Trousdale don’t have those caliber players on their roster right now. Cam Rankin was as close as they have had in recent years imo. 

1 hour ago, MakingSense2u said:

Where's home for Hackett?  

Smith County is where he played at. I’m guessing that’s still home. There’s actually quite a bit of Smith County ties on the H2O staff. 

1 hour ago, Katdaddy said:

Biggest has made a lot of $$$ getting these fans fired up.  It will only get worse this year and for a few years to come.  Congrats to your bees . I predicted 28-6 bees and I was way off.  Question to the h20 faithful ! Has  h20  progressed  and got better each week.

I don’t think that can be fairly answered due to I’m not sure they have put a true starting lineup on the field this year due to injuries each week. Seems every week they get 1 player back and lose 2 more.