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Ellison beats Rubio 10-3

Terrell beats Bosken 8-0

Walker beats Creque 9-0

Cordero beats Colson 11-3

Cleveland has 27 point lead over Bradley going into finals in Region 2.  Every weight except 138 and HWT includes a Cleveland and/or Bradley kid.

Russell pinned Jenkins at 195 though not sure that is an upset either. Russell should be ranked.

Cy Fowler just pinned Barlow though I don’t consider that an upset.

8 hours ago, SportsTNFan said:

1/1/23

Scuffle:

133
 Keyveon Roller


R32: No. 2 Dayton Fix (Oklahoma State) pinned. Roller, 1:43
Conso. R16-2: Ethan Oakley (App. State) dec. Roller, 7-2 

1/27/23:

vs. UNC

133: Jace Palmer (UNC) dec. Keyveon Roller, 6-1 – UNC 10, UVA 0

2/4/23:

vs. American 

133: Jack Maida (AU) dec. Keyveon Roller, 6-2 – AU 9, UVA 0

Nice.  Good for him.  I really hope UVA can elevate their program.  It would be good for the ACC overall.

2 hours ago, cowcatcherII said:

McDaniel has been phenomenal. He’s been in and out of the top 25 this year. 

Keyveon Roller has also done great at UVA and is starting at 133lbs. 

I haven’t seen Roller in any of the ACC duals at 133.  

3 hours ago, Bump11 said:

Posey wrestled Ellison very close at duals. Kid is forreal. After that match he became #2 in my eyes.

Posey did look good but in fairness to Bentley he was wrestling very conservatively because a simple decision locked up the team win. No need to take any risks. Plus, giving up weight to a very good kid makes that kid very, very good.

5 hours ago, LocalHero said:

Thank you. Still have to go out and wrestle!!! Chase is a stud so Mason has his hands full. They’ve wrestled quite a few times and one thing about Cleveland is they always have their kids ready. I’m sure Knox and Bosken has a game plan. We’ve been watching film too. Will be a good match. Not sure in that bracket there will be any other good matches. However, know what kids will drop. Not out of realm of possibility Bryson could drop back down. Rumor has it Russel Ford has something for Mason and may be dropping too. So we will see. I’ll never bet against Mason but hardly a lock. We’re just going to be humble and Mason will go out and wrestle his match. 

Don’t think Bryson would drop.  I don’t think he feels the need. Although Bosken keeps getting closer. He will be difficult to beat at either weight.  He beat Chase very easily at Region and State duals.

30 minutes ago, LocalHero said:

Yeah I have to disagree with that as well. No way do I see Soddy competing with Cleveland. Maybe a state title with Halls moving up and Signal losing one of the Uhorchuk studs. I was just reading through and saw everyone jumping on the “Cleveland will be way better next year bandwagon” like darn how much better can they get lol 

I think that’s the point.  Cleveland won it all this year with only 2 seniors … one of which is wrestling up 2 weight classes.  Most teams have to fill more holes and don’t start from as good a foundation.  Things can happen but I definitely think Cleveland will be more of a favorite next year than they were this year.  That’s all I see folks saying.  Frankly, I don’t see that as controversial. I think Bradley loses around 9 starters (including the 3 hammers).  That’s hard to imagine.

28 minutes ago, desselle said:

I’m sure DB has something up their sleeve to replace the kids they are losing. I know they’ve got lil Watkins coming up and probably a few more. But they lose 5 in the lineup that’s always pretty tough. But they have some stud underclassman. Titus impressed me this past weekend. 

Agreed … and Summit has hammers coming back.  There will be plenty of competition.

3 hours ago, LocalHero said:

Well with that logic there will be a couple of teams much better. Summit isn’t losing much either and DB has some stud underclassmen. 

I expect those teams will be better (especially DB) but my post was in response to a post saying SD would compete with Baylor and Cleveland next year.  I don’t think that is likely. 

3 hours ago, WrestlingDad23 said:

Cleveland will be the favorite again next year as they are losing Ellison and Sims, but they have kids that can start for any high school in the state. Cleveland has a strong core coming up in the next couple of years that will keep Cleveland on top. The team to really watch out for in my opinion is Dobbin Bennet. They have a great young core of wrestlers who all wrestled out of the same kids club that challenged Cleveland a few years back. They will have a tough 106 pounder coming up that has huge success on the national scene as a youth and a few other kids potentially moving back. This weekend was not a fluke at all for them, but just the beginning. It should be fun to watch over the next few years. 

Agree 100%

50 minutes ago, LocalHero said:

Do they have a bunch of people moving in? Hard to see how they’d be a lot better better than they are now. Their crop of studs in the club won’t be up for a couple years right? 

They only lose 2 starters.  Elliston will certainly be tough to replace but they have backups that would have started for most teams.  Plus, the kids returning are just one year better.  No disrespect to Soddy but I just don’t see them competing with Cleveland next year.

1 hour ago, cowcatcher said:

Soddy is the clear cut favorite to win both duals and traditional next year in single A. I expect next year's Soddy team to be one of the best to ever come through the division. Only other on that level in recent years would be the Pigeon Forge team from 2021. I wouldn't be surprised if Soddy can compete with Baylor, Cleveland, and Bradley next year. They should be legit!

Really?  Cleveland will be better next year … maybe a lot better.

10 minutes ago, cobrakid8 said:

He also barely got beat by Cordero at the region duals and maybe even the time before that. He’s closed the gap on Cordero unless Cordero decides to just take him down and let him go, at that point I think he beats him pretty soundly. 

I agree.  If Cordero doesn’t get caught or try something risky, then he should beat Ricon because as you said he is way better on his feet. If I was wrestling Cordero I’d take my chances locking up and trying throws.  Go Bryce Andonian and just get funky and hope you catch him.  If I am Cordero I am cautious and just win to advance because he doesn’t need bonus points in a tournament setting.

29 minutes ago, sx1234 said:

182 has a shot if he is opposite Brenot 

Maybe but I was thinking Ricon though he would have to get through Cordero or Colson - which either would be a decent upset.  He did almost beat Cordero this past weekend.  In fact, almost pinned him. Cordero is a much better technical wrestler but as a light and young freshman has some trouble with strength.

1 hour ago, AllthingsWrestling said:

I see Cleveland with a potential of 7 finalist but the only one I have winning would be fowler at 52.

I see bradley with 3 max in the finals but with all 3 I think bradley wins with Terrell at 120, lipsey at 132, and Belcher at 145

Who would be your 4th to make the finals for bradley?

Ricon could have an outside shot at 106 for Bradley.  He about beat Cordero in dual finals.  I agree the other 3 Bradley kids likely win it.  I also agree that Fowler is probably the only lock for Cleveland but I’d say Cordero, Walker, and Elliston all have good chances.  Bosken and Symborski have tougher roads. I am guessing your 7th potential finalists for Cleveland would be Cy Fowler.

2 hours ago, cowcatcher said:

A - Greeneville...I know they didn't make the duals but with Carson, Colin, Hunter, Chrisman, and Lowery, they will have 5 champions. I expect Pigeon Forge, Signal, and Soddy to be their biggest challengers. They are the only ones that will have the firepower to match that. Pigeon Forge will have Cable, Wyatt Howard, and Wolfe in the finals with Aiden Howard and Little right there too. Signal probably has 4 finalists with the three brother and Davis. Soddy has Dyer, Flavin, and Turner who I expect to be finalists and don't overlook Cosper or Duncan. Halls is a great dual team, but they might only have one finalist with Hunley.

After watching the single A duals this past weekend, I will say that the Hunley from Halls, Davis from Signal, and O'Connell from Page are three guys that really impressed me that I don't normally hear a lot about. 

AA - Cleveland...expect Bradley to keep it closer than most think. They beat Cleveland by 10 points in the Father Ryan tournament earlier this year, but Ellison was out. They would need some help with some upsets, but they likely have a 2/10 chance to win it. 

DII - Father Ryan... Baylor will be right there if Tisdale is back and healthy enough to make it to the finals. 

 

 

Cleveland has 6 potential finalists (4/5 likely locks).  Another likely placer and 2 other potential placers.  Bradley has 4 potential finalists (3 likely locks).  Another 2 likely placers and 3 other potential places.  So both could have 9 placers absent some unexpected run by someone. Bradley has a very good chance to have 3 champs. Cleveland finalists overall will have tougher matches. Maybe only one clear champ.  Should be interesting. 

I’d say the following are likely locks to win:

Terrell (113 or 120)

Lipsey (132)

Desselle (138)

Fowler (152)

Norman (160)

Brenot (182)

McDonald (285)

1 minute ago, clevelandblueraiderfan said:

6

And the Raiders are likely better next year.

That’s a 6-peat for the Raiders.  And they are likely better next year.

DB taking WC to the woodshed in the Consol finals.