TornadoLeadRecruiter

On 3/31/2022 at 10:04 AM, logcabinman said:

Alcoa will be a contender.  They return pretty much everyone.  One of their best players injured her knee and did not play most of the year.

People seem to forget the Tornado girls. Also the Gatlinburg Pitman girls. The East teams that played in the semifinals last yr. Both teams reloaded with freshman talent also. Also don’t leave out Mcminn Central chargers either

15 hours ago, tradertwo said:

I'm assuming that your moniker Pftigers alludes to the fact that the school that you follow is Pigeon Forge...just for giggles I looked up your policy, and you are in an open zoned system. 

Yes

They get about 3-4 baseball players every yr to come in to play there lol 

oh and Wrestler too 

34 minutes ago, Betsyorangefan said:

We scheduled 1 6a team and 2 5a teams and due to Covid we tried to get teams to fill our schedule even from the Knoxville region including Maryville and Alcoa but that’s what happens when you become a solid program …. No takers 

This is not correct. Alcoa wanted that game!
 I was at mr football and got to meet coach W. While standing with him and Rankin I said “let’s get a game together right here”. Coach W said “NO” and walked away with out even saying nice to meet you 

FACT 

16 hours ago, Rebel1972 said:

People always think Maryville kids are not good enough athletes to compete. What people don’t get is if you don’t play assignment football at Maryville you don’t play. If you don’t block, if you don’t squeeze, or run your routes there are 80 other kids on the sidelines waiting to take your spot so they know how to play football. 

Murval Always has college level talent every yr. just not the stand out flashy guy because they all play as a team

On 8/21/2021 at 1:04 PM, TornadoLeadRecruiter said:

Murval 45-28. 
after seeing AC score what they did I would not put it past Murval scoring  55/60 pts though

AC team compared to Murval. There is no comparison 

Sorry Powell Fans your team with all your D1 guys are not on the same level as the Red guys coaches and game Preparation

Yes I was close

56 minutes ago, BCsportsfan said:

Powell will not have an answer for the murvul passing game.

BC you think Powell can score 28 on Red team

50 minutes ago, TheGreatWallofAlnwick said:

What is your motivation for asking these questions and making these points???? First of all, WB was at least 5-5 or better in the regular season almost every year from 1997 to 2007 with the exception of a year or two. That's a decade of decent to good teams. WB also had some success in the early 90s too.  So your insinuations that WB can't have success in football are flat out false and BS.

Meadows left because he had success here and was offered a head coaching job at Knox Catholic. They were offering a lot more money, but surely I don't have to explain all that to you. 

Also, do you think every coach from every good program is good by default???? Of course not. Just look at Nick Saban's coaching tree. Pruitt was probably the worst coach in UT history and he seemingly had the right pedigree when they hired him.

Like I said, I don't know what your motivations are, but I'm just telling you how I see it. I don't expect winning seasons every year, but I expect to see a well-coached team that knows how to block and tackle and do the basic stuff that you need to do to be competitive in 6A football. I have watched almost every WB football game in the past decade plus and we haven't been well coached since Meadows left. Period.

Let me ask you a question since you are such an expert. WB has the right size boys to push people around upfront, but we always lose the line of scrimmage. Why do you think that is? We have 1900 students and usually have 70+ players, but other schools that are smaller put players on the field that can push us around. Again, why is that? Do you think those other schools have big boys that are just inherently better football players every year? Or do those schools just have good coaches that can teach and develop their players better than ours can? I'm leaning towards the latter. Talent isn't everything. If it was, Alcoa would beat Maryville almost every year, but they don't. Just saying.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well since you say I’m an expert I’ll say great coaches can get players to perform above their level a lot of times by having them mentally ready to beat the other team by - if anything being in the right place all the time. But to win at the highest level you must have the Jimmy’s and Joe’s along with decent coaching. To be the best you need Great coaches and great players. You understand this I’m sure. Oh  I could have coach Alcoa the last 4yrs and probably won the same games because they were much better athletes than every team they played. 
all I was asking you is over the last 30yrs with 1800-2000 students why William Blount hasn’t been at least to the 3rd of the playoffs a few times. 

your Alcoa comment is not correct and needs things added like how many of those great players were playing both ways when maryville had none going both ways. Also Murval always has talent. Maybe not power 5 talent of certain kids certain yrs from Alcoa but they always have collegiate level guys and Depth. So what you said isn’t true. I will give you last yr though. Alcoa was deep and loaded with talent but got beat  

I wanted your opinion on William Blount because I can’t quite figure it out. that’s all

16 hours ago, 92Dragon said:

William Blount was 9-3 in 2007

2 maybe 3yrs above .500 in 30yrs ???

16 hours ago, TheGreatWallofAlnwick said:

Well, WB had one of its best years in 2007 for one thing. Yes, we lose players, but that's not an excuse for our players to show up to the first game of the season not knowing how to block or tackle. Where's this great offseason in the weight room that Shad tells Stork and the media about every year? He must be lying because I saw our lines getting dominated all night.  Heck, we had a defensive lineman get driven back into the goalpost on one of Clinton's tds. That's embarrassing in any game, and it's especially embarrassing when it's against a team that has been worse than you for almost a decade and that was with them going up against worse competition than the teams we play every year. The difference in last night's contest was coaching.  Clinton's new coach had his team playing hard and fundamentally sound in the first game of his second season. Our coach is in year #7 and we are still seeing the same things we see every year.

 

My point was historically WB has not done well. They had a couple really good coaches around 2004-2007 Reed/Meadows and both left. Why do you think they left? Players leaving?

Don’t get me wrong. Some of the things you bring up should not happen and those things seem to lead to bad coaching. Didn’t 2 guys from South Doyle come over? Surely they know what they’re doing. Right??

Alcoa sending prayers

7 minutes ago, TheGreatWallofAlnwick said:

I have sat through over a decade of losing seasons, friend. Last night was rock bottom and I'm not just saying that.  I have seen a lot of bad football and last night was the worst effort I have seen since I have been supporting this program. It actually hurts me to see WB be so bad. I have seen WB as one of the best teams in the state back when I was in school. Those teams played physical and we had linemen that could block people. This program could be so much better than what I saw last night. 

Because I don’t know I’m asking. How many above .500 teams has WB has since 1990

 do you happen to know

 why I ask is because I don’t know if they will ever have a 7-8 win season. Since I have been around the best kids always leave there and I have been around since 2006 

3 hours ago, StarBright87 said:

We all know and we all get it Maryville, Alcoa and Oakland are on a different level. We all know lord willing the semifinals at Maryville is the state championship game, the loser of that game would win state. Oakland as of late have become juggernauts but they still have to keep adding to their resume, as for Maryville and Alcoa they don't have to win another game their legacy and reputation is set in stone, what both program has done the last 20 so years will never be matched in Tn again.

Is Maryville a better team than Ac no doubt, Maryville is overall better defensively, coaching and special teams but just strictly on offense Ac is better than Maryville or equal. We all know Ac doesn't preach any defense that's why they don't have any state championships as of late. I don't see Maryville offense doing more damage to Powell defense than Ac.

Maryville will stay away from running to #99 side, he's going to get double and triple team, maryville will get rid of the ball quick and Powell needs to watch out for the screen pass. Powell needs to press the receivers at the line of scrimmage to give #99 time to do his damage, for Powell to win it needs to be a 31-30. I will admit it's going to be a tough task to go in an upset the rebels at home but with a team like Powell it's not impossible 

I’m believe you have never been to a Murval game or just don’t quiet understand the level of the Rebs (1 of to 5 teams in the state every yr) if you think AC offense is on the level the Rebs are. 

13 hours ago, vandyfan1 said:

I talked to a lot of folks at the Peabody game last night that thinks Dyersburg is the team to beat in the west. Some say they may even challenge Alcoa. Idk how true that is but many were talking about it.

No 3a team is within 28pts of the Tornadoes as long as the QB stays healthy 

They will “walk”/Sprint past everyone to Ring #7 straight 

Murval 45-28. 
after seeing AC score what they did I would not put it past Murval scoring  55/60 pts though

AC team compared to Murval. There is no comparison 

Sorry Powell Fans your team with all your D1 guys are not on the same level as the Red guys coaches and game Preparation

On 8/14/2021 at 8:26 PM, ADS1 said:

Well, I guess Rhea County will travel to Alcoa Friday night.  Curious as to what kind of talent Alcoa has back this fall?  I hope that the Golden Eagles can make this a good game.   As good as Alcoa is year after year, I guess that they are used to going against the old wing-t.  What's the latest, y'all?

The wing t is tough. Most teams these days don’t run it. In the past it gave us fits to see it in like the state title game against Covington. So much miss direction. Pulling and kicking the end and trapping the d tackles but usually coach gamble and nix got the boys squared after a couple series and things settle down 

On 8/15/2021 at 6:13 AM, BarneySox2007 said:

My guess would be the same also. They have a good qb also. Losing Cox, Sankey, Anderson and Carroll would almost do most programs in but they just keep reloading. Be interesting to see. Glad both teams got a tenth game to play at the last minute.

Don’t forget Burden either

 gosh that Defense was pretty nice

1 hour ago, ADS1 said:

That's why they line 'em up and play.  How's Alcoa's D?

Solid. But it’s like about every game besides 1 or 2 were the speed gets teams. We move to the ball very fast.  You may score early but after adjustments and the dline figuring out the blocking in the crazy wingt it will be hard to score against the Tornadoes. The problem for Rhea is going to be stopping the Tornado Offense.  they are one of the biggest olines I have seen in 30 yrs of Hs football and have a really good Mr Football level QB. Oh and they are really really fast too

3 hours ago, JohnnyUtah said:

Powell has the best skills players on one team that I’ve seen collectively since Alcoa with Cobb, Lindsey, Warren. Egos and injuries is the only thing that will stop Powell this year. 
 

Yeah I thought the same thing when Alcoa played Murval last yr and had (starting players) 10-D1 and 4-d2 players on the field for us. Murval had like 5-6 college kids on the field. No way Murval wins no way

we lost 14-9

1 hour ago, keepitmoving said:

Would it be an upset?  On paper Powell is FAR better than Maryville IMO.  Your are right though, Maryville def. has the edge when it comes to the coaching.  Maryville wins 95% of there games due to the coaches game plan, and halftime adjustments.   Def will be a good game!

Would it be an upset 

come on

How many state titles has murval played in vs Powell over the last 20 yrs. how many teams has beaten murval besides Alcoa in the regular season in the last 20 yrs. 

Yes it would be an upset

1 hour ago, rollnoles said:

The brother didn’t play tonight either. Powell can play with Maryville for sure after what I saw tonight what they did to Farragut. I went to see what the talk was about and they where both on the sideline. 

Very few teams can play with Maryville. Even less can win against them on Friday night when their coaches game plan. 
Powell has enough skill talent and now a boss on the dline to possibly pull the upset. But can their coaches game plan better/enough and the boys execute the plan to pull that up set 

time will tell

I can’t wait to see how this big guy does vs the center at Murval. It’s going to help the maryville center or hurt his recruiting is my guess  

Will the big guy play Nose or a  3tech/DT position 

what can you guys add to the above

13 hours ago, Playerscoach said:

 Then to where? 

Now that is a Good question

1-watch his son kick at MTSU

2-be a new granddaddy 

3-relax

4-Coach ???? somewhere after taking a  yr off possibly????

2 hours ago, Playerscoach said:

You seem triggered that I posted something that someone who knows more about the team said. It’s funny. 
 

BTW how much longer is CGR going to coach at Alcoa?

This is his last yr

9 hours ago, Playerscoach said:

How many are new starters? 

Technically I guess 4 on each side or Not really any if you count they all played 30plus plays per game at their position last yr besides the Freshman TE 

10 hours ago, chs1984 said:

Best post yet! My thoughts, for whatever it’s worth, you couldn’t go wrong with either of these gentlemen. As I said earlier, while Rankin did walk into a gold mine at Alcoa, he built Smith Co. and Riverdale, basically from scratch. Both have amazing records, and, after his first season, George never again lost prior to the semifinals. I would give almost anything to see what both men could do coaching in Georgia. Thanks for participating. My final thoughts on this subject. 

I follow Ga Hs football allot. If you look at the history down there it’s the same teams that typically win every year the same as in Tennessee. Now the Georgia schools typically don’t win back to back to back state championships but they’re always competing every year-  example Valdosta Grayson Colquitt Tucker Rome Cartersville Lowndes- the parity is better because there are so many good players everywhere that move to competing schools

in Tn there are about 10-15 schools far above everyone else and in Ga that number is about 50ish schools

If either one of these guys were to coach down there at the right school/area they would win. Heck I could have coached Grayson and win every game last yr with there talent

 what’s your thoughts