ChuckDSanAntonio
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On 3/13/2024 at 12:38 PM, cbg said:
The David Lipscomb "LIFERS" were put back in charge when Mrs. Candice McQueen was given the gavel by the folks at Hillsboro Church of Christ. The problem arose when some of the lifers' kids and grandchildren either didn't get to play in football or did not play the position that they wanted. What happened next is instead of handling everything internally like most other private institutions a few individuals began to talk in public. The end result is that those individuals basically dropped a nuclear bomb on the David Lipscomb High School athletic program. The sad part is that it punishes families and kids that actually had zero to do with breaking any rules.
If this were true, the prior football regime would have been anointed, that’s still on campus, to bring the wing-t back. That didn’t happen. The Dilfer tree was re-established and the word on the street is he had a hand in it and was there to celebrate it.
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32 minutes ago, fredjones said:
The Lipscomb Legacy folks wanted back in charge
How does that make sense? Isn’t the former coach with McCadams legacy still around? That would be putting the legacy back in charge.
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17 hours ago, Booger said:
FBfan26 just keeps bringin those Amans....
....and now them Ensworth moneymen are out-exposurin all of'em with big brother Matt hired to run brother Tim offense
Booger just sayin
On 3/7/2024 at 11:15 AM, BingoLong said:Maybe if LA had removed some of the leadership that obviously signed off or looked the other way at all the many transactions that were going on the TSSAA might have held the ban to one year. Maybe not since the transgressions all occurred and were documented.
Why do we continue to revisit this? LA broke several major rules. The more important part is THEY GOT CAUGHT. Quit crying about the repercussions after the fact.
The bottom line is that all of this could have been avoided simply by following the rules or being better at cheating.
Lipscomb Academy paid the piper for the players that didn't move with their families in a bonafide move. Whoever knew it or facilitated it should have been fired. That's cheating and not exemplary of leading men and women in a Christian way.
I am not convinced the text messages that were made available to the public constitute cheating. The message was along the lines of, "I know Lipscomb Academy didn't renew your financial aid, but there are people that are called to help kids be enrolled that aren't able to financially afford it. I can connect you to them, but I don't want to get in the way..."
In addition, would your head explode if you knew the coach that reached out with the text message to the father of the student that ended up at Ensworth, was the basis for the 2 yr penalty and was fired at Lipscomb Academy, is now on the Ensworth coaching staff?
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17 minutes ago, Chattanoogachoochoo said:
My Franklin buddy told me at the Blue Cross Bowl that The whole Duece Knight thing was a disaster and unfair to that young man. Lipscomb said his parents were moving. That’s a lie. Lipscomb set up an address for a Nolensville Road apartment while the young man lived with another player. This was far deeper than a couple of texts. If this text came to light how many dozens more went to countless other players who were illegally brought in. A group of parents had to buy their children two championship rings. This totally disgusted and alienated most of the MCAdams former players. When you cheat the innocent often suffer with the guilty. Time to pay the piper.
I can only imagine the internal conflicts of a transfer coming in 3 weeks prior to the season and displacing a senior. You probably had factions for it due to his stary hype and other saying the current QBs earned their spot.
If the administration knew Duece didn't move then they should have been fired. I haven't heard of that fallout. That's a blatant lie at the highest level of the school that wouldn't align with the mission of the Christian school. The school was punished for playing ineligible players. That was taken care of. Perhaps the firing of complicit admin hasn't been taken care of. Why did the remaining McCadams staff of good men and women stand by and allow that to happen at the highest level? In my mind they are also complicit and need to check themselves as well.
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2 hours ago, ocac said:
Where to start............Coach McCadams, RIP, is rolling over in his grave over the Lipscomb shenanigans. My father, former longtime TN high school head coach/Administrator, and Coach McCadams were extremely close. They coached together on several All-Star showcase games and competed against each other as well. When I became a head coach myself, my teams competed against Coach McCadams as well. We became close as well, as well as some of his former staff. Some of which are still at LA in some various capacities. They see it first hand on a daily basis and are embarrassed by what is/has been going on. Some of the stories I have been told by LA staff members are unreal, if true. If I had to guess, LA is extremely lucky that TSSAA did not really push the issue beyond what facts we already know. I hate it for the kids that adults have to get in the way.
I have no dog in the hunt or on the field. I have heard great things about Coach McCadams. Alumni that played for him rave about him being a great man. If there was more, then that should be known. I completely agree that adults got in the way, but the cited crimes just don't seem to align with the extent of the punishment when you read Kreager's story. The text message in my mind hardly constitutes recruiting for an enrolled student.
If that's the smoking gun, then the TSSAA should have followed that smoke over to Ensworth.
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49 minutes ago, BingoLong said:
Please don't try to make it seem like Lipscomb was wronged here. They danced with the devil and lost. End of story.
As a reminder, here is how it went down and what the rulings were based on.
From Tom Kreager’s article on Oct 30, 2023.
Text messages link Lipscomb Academy to recruiting rule violation
Reeves wrote in his decision that text message exchanges from a Lipscomb Academy football staff member and a father of an athlete violated the TSSAA's recruiting rule — the most significant allegation outlined Monday.
The father told the staff member that Lipscomb wasn't renewing his son's financial aid. The staffer, who has not been identified, offered to "look into it." But that alone, the TSSAA said, wasn't how Lipscomb violated the recruiting rule.
The violation occurred when the coach continued: "Also we have donors who feel called to help... Im [sic] glad to intercede but don't want to interfere." In another text the staffer wrote: "I literally had 3hr [sic] lunch today with a guy paying the difference for several guys..."
Reeves added in the letter to Schultz: "You have indicated that coach (staff member) was making a short-hand reference to a donor to the Good Samaritan Fund at Lipscomb Academy. Our reading of this communication suggests that Coach (staff member) was offering to 'intercede' with donors to help secure financial assistance for the family."
Speaking of bones to pick - who / what was the source of providing the text exchange to the TSSAA? Scott Cooper? Was he mad that his sons financial aid wasn’t going to be renewed (which is a clearinghouse determination). That actually shows a level of above board by the administration for a high potential athlete. I presume the same clearinghouse had the same determination for his enrollment at Ensworth and they would have been looking for 2x to 3x more financial support to attend En$worth.
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Did anyone else find several of the points in the interview a bit odd?
- Dexter Williams is a Public school representative as a voter, but a coach at a private school. The comment was, if he wanted to be re-elected he had to vote the way he did
- one of the voters against is from a school with notorious shenanigans in West TN that couldn’t be pulled of at Centennial high school in Nashville
- the Chattanooga boarding schools are going and getting students from out of country. D2AAA is a different animal.
- the text message with Scott Cooper to connect him with additional aid sources was the source of the recruiting violation. His son is at Ensworth which is considerably more expensive than Lipscomb Academy . If he needed aid at Lipscomb Academy, he needed more aid at Ensworth.
- The athlete at the center of it was enrolled in the school. I don’t think the spirit of the recruiting rules is to prevent helping a kid that’s already enrolled pay for tuition.
- somebody had some bones to pick. This isn’t at all about the kids.
Listen to the segment:
https://omny.fm/shows/high-school-sports-saturday-with-tate-mathews/hsss-tom-kreager-85
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3 hours ago, Chattanoogachoochoo said:
I am in the dark over here in the hills, so what is an Endeavor program?
Website says it allows students to take in-person classes as well as online classes to allow for a more flexible schedule. Sounds like a college preparatory school.
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I find that hard to believe. You would think they would like nothing more than to take 2 gold balls from Dilfer and give to Martin. In addition, todays vote wouldn’t have been 1 vote from a tie. I had heard people were crawling all over that program when Dilfer was there looking for infractions.
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Board of Control members who voted in favor of lifting the ban include Board president Mike Reed of Morristown West, Michel Sanchez of Hunters Lane, Jay Watts of Girls Preparatory School, Dennis Goodwin of DCA and Braxton Brady of Evangelical Christian.
Those voting against lifting the playoff ban included Jody Wright of Fulton, Patrick Spangler of Bradley Central, Grant Swallows of Warren County, Greg Scott of Milan, Bryan True of Loretto, Dexter Williams of Trinity Christian and Greg McCullough of Memphis Central.
At first it looked a little strange for Coach Dexter Williams being the only private school representative voting against lifting the ban, but his prior coaching experience at Milan in 2013, 2014 and 2015 perhaps explains it.
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1 hour ago, QuickStrike said:
CPW been working the room. New suit coat at the basketball game.
Coach Paul Wade?
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What are the thoughts on coach Blade? Not from the Dilfer tree. Also, the Kreager story said he was out of coaching for a year or two. Not coaching or teaching.
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On 1/15/2024 at 11:28 AM, MoonDogRex said:
All TSSAA private schools recruit. They just cannot entice. There is a difference.
Seem like all kinds of gray in "entice."
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4 hours ago, cbg said:
If the Board of Trust will allow him to bring in a great coaching staff along with players, BGA will be ultra successful. Bobby Bentley knows how to both recruit and win but everyone must be pulling on the same end of the rope or it will be a total disaster.
“Recruit”?
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6 minutes ago, Fnltexas said:
He said in Tn. Those are not in TN. The LA teams certainly could however to his point I do not believe there is a team currently in the state that could.
For that matter, is there anyone in TN that would mercy rule the top 10 or 15 teams in TN? Probably not.
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8 hours ago, LevisTheFuture8 said:
There’s not a school in Tennessee that would mercy rule CPA in recent years…
Looks like 2 games in recent years with a running clock.
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4 hours ago, Playerscoach said:
Well that text parent is at Ensworth currently so they may be in the clear???? However, what’s going to happen when that parent isn’t happy his kid isn’t getting the recognition he “deserves?” That’s almost a certainty from Mr FCA.
Has there ever been a more well known parent of a player that’s a cancer wherever they go?
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2 minutes ago, kappy said:
I agree and every public-school in Nashville recruits.
Truer words have hardly been spoken. I once knew a parent that ran into the head band member recently spoken about and asked, "when do you start recruiting athletes?" The response, "Which state?"
If we are about the kids, we are about the kids earning the ability to put themselves in the best place possible.
I did hear from a Page parent that supposedly the band leader was spotted at a coffee shop on granny white at the green hills end of the pike this morning.
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Word here in foggy Chatt is that Timmy Trumpet has already been booked for the band that's been in the works and forming on Granny White Pike.
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37 minutes ago, SquatchU said:
That Bowers man only care about the man in the mirror. He didn’t want his successor to be successful. Now he will swoop in and become the white knight again.
The man is good at stroking his on ego.
Isn’t it really about gold balls. And, a culture that isn’t toxic. He’s got all that in spades.
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54 minutes ago, JohnJacob said:
McGugin probably. Just a hunch. His kids go there.
What about Wade?
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On 11/8/2023 at 5:25 PM, ChatterBox99 said:
BA 38-Mccallie 35
Ensworth 21- MBA 24
Baylor 42-6
MUS 48 Catholic 17
Is Bironas back?
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2 hours ago, Chattanoogachoochoo said:
Of course the most serious infraction was having 2 student athletes playing without their parents having moved here while living with another player and giving a bogus address for them. The school was already on probation for what most people consider a very minor infraction.
Does anyone know the response to this that Lipscomb gave? If they said the parents told us where they were living, showed us an apartment rental agreement and an electric bill as evidence they have moved…what additional responsibility does David Lipscomb have?
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2 hours ago, Chattanoogachoochoo said:
Private schools can absolutely recruit. Why do you think Baylor MC BA LA etc have open houses. It is too get kids on campus. Can coaches make in house visits for recruiting or athletic purposes? No. Can private give partial or full tuition to athletes absolutely. There is a reason there is public - private. Lipscomb broke two major rules…having out of area athletes on their team without parents moving here. They also have a text where a coach was telling a parent they could help with his tuition.
Not personally help, but connect the father with a fund that could help.
Shadowens named HC at Knox Catholic.......
in Division II
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Looks like Knox Catholic has been rolling out the NIL money with all of these collegiate level announcements of continuing the academic and athletic career for multiple athletes. Everybody is chasing the worldwide recruiting machine at McCallie. To have any rule about recruiting in this day and age is way behind the times. The movement is, whatever is in the best interest of the athlete and family, goes.