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9 hours ago, GREYRIDERx said:

Also those 2 big Ol boys had to hold or tackle our little DTs and LBs all night ... it was quite comical really... a 205 lb LB dragging a 6’5” 305 lb OL around the field to make a tackle.  Lmao

Who are you referring to?   DB linemen topped out at 260.  3 of them were 6’1”....didn’t see any of getting dragged anywhere.  

On 11/21/2020 at 12:22 AM, Thund3rStruck said:

Not many people like you, if you hadn't "told" the whole world how to beat DB then maybe as a fan you would have kept your mouth shut instead of being a sore loser and that 35 to 28 could have been the opposite way. Oh DB sucks in this aspect of the game, Marivul line up in the shot gun and empty set dont worry about running and you can beat us. Who needs to watch game film when they have Waco telling them what to do ahead of time 

I can’t tell if your kidding?

2 hours ago, strongx said:

I agree. If it was that bad, he should’ve asked the A.D. to remove them. The only thing I heard that was yelled was “get the play in” when the TO had to be called. After reading some of the criticisms, there was probably other stuff. I wasn’t really listening for any of that. But after the kid turned and started lecturing the fans with a curse filled rant, I started listening a little more. Lol.

I will let it go after this: I was once told that when people leave a youth game talking about something and adult did, then the adult probably did something wrong. I’ve been there and done it before, but I was wrong. Instead of remembering what great effort the Db kids gave, those of us in earshot will remember something else.

Db has a great program and the players on the field represented well. Best of luck to the Indians and maybe we can meet again in 2021 - WITHOUT THE COVID!!

I agree it’s time to let this topic go.  We’ve all yelled from the stands, more so at the tv when things aren’t going well.  You’ve got 99% of your fans 40 ft behind yelling support on every down, doing everything they can to lift spirit, inspire confidence and let team know they are living and dying along with them on every snap.  Along comes uncle festus and he assumes it’s his job to let the staff know the importance of getting play calls in timely, as if they were losing focus, not realizing the importance of a 3rd rd game at defending champion Maryville’s field.  At the Fred, there are plenty asst coaches that yell from higher up out of sideline range, few would stand alongside the team and make those observations.  Bad timing, location awareness on his part.  What’s more important is the incredible outpouring of team support and appreciation shown by this community in the last 36 hrs.  Why you say?  DB has 50 conf titles in 100 yrs, been to the playoffs before?  It’s because of the way these seniors went about their business for 4 yrs and fixed a slumping program that means so much to Kingsport.  They have shown a path, a model that hopefully will be followed for years to come.  They are an impressive group.  Thanks for well wishes, would be privileged to meet again next year.

Since the game is coming from Oakland, is that something NFHS would stream?  Or is Oakland not part of their network coverage.

44 minutes ago, Tribefan98 said:

I hope the team has a nice crowd to welcome them back to Kingsport. Those seniors gave their all for this program. 

For anyone interested, I’ve been told the team bus is due back at DB around 12:15.

4 minutes ago, DBturningitAROUND said:

Tell him I appreciate all he did for this program.If you get a time for them getting back tonight please let me know.Wanting to be there to welcome them home and show them how much we appreciate them and they replied kpt tonight and we're proud of them

If I can get him to answer text, I will.

1 hour ago, WaCoJaCo said:

I was hoping Maryville would run the ball more. Probably when the QB's arm gets sore they'll go to the run more.

5 minutes ago, DBturningitAROUND said:

Guys stop putting down the team!!!...Do you see maryville or really any other fanbase doing it.Some kids may read the crap,So give them respect they deserve and appreciate you have a team that comes out and plays hard every week.Practicing during the summer and during the school yr and also dealing with doing school work and other things.For this program to get to the next level.They need there fanbase to back them.Win or loss!..To be up on Maryville and Oaklands level you can't have you own fans talking trash.Theres enough haters already.Come on folks!!

Exactly.  Same old codgers, don’t see it from other fan bases, especially Knox.  Got news for you, one team wins the super bowl, every one else cheers till the end.  Maryville’s a great team and we will keep trying.  I’m proud of the my son tonight and all the Indians, been a great 4 years.

5 minutes ago, WaCoJaCo said:

I was hoping Maryville would run the ball more. Probably when the QB's arm gets sore they'll go to the run more.

Doubt count on it

36 minutes ago, GREYRIDERx said:

Not bothered just think it was a disservice to his team. Our coaches never bad mouth another team. But they do a great job of inspiring and preparing for opponents. 

I would agree that if your coach is able to elevate his teams play by using comments like that, it becomes a calculated risk for our team.  But I also know he recognized what Christian was doing.  Not his first rodeo, commonly used at every level of football.  Once players are out of listening range, if pressed  for comments you’ll hear the truth.  I absolutely agree with the comments about your coaches.

9 minutes ago, Indian2424 said:

 Everyone knows how consistently great Maryville is every year, you have this aura of invincibility that Christian probably just wanted our team to not think that way. Maryville is also the best coached team in the state i doubt that some comment is gonna make them more motivated or ready to play, they are already ready to play every game and its the playoffs, everybody is plenty motivated in the playoffs, 

This is exactly accurate.  Every week if you listen to the coaches show we are usually the favorite, but you will walk out of the room thinking we are in serious trouble.  Their players, coaches, concessions are far more talented we ever imagined.  He is playing the role of being a good sport, our players are not affected and the results are as expected.  Then we reach that part of the season (the playoffs) where we come up against a Maryville.  Now, the roles are reversed.  Our players may have a few doubts so the coaches reverse the dialogue to bolster player confidence.  If you’re from Maryville, you never experience this effect, your never the underdog and thus your coach will only use the complimentary dialogue.  I’m sure 99% of the posters on this board already recognized this, but greyrider seemed really bothered about it.  

5 minutes ago, blitzinbuc said:

No, your summation would be incorrect. I was initially referencing that D-B's AD didn't want to play McMinn in a home/away series in 2009-2010. In my opinion it was based on McMinn pulling the upset in 2008. Before that 2008 game the D-B AD was virtually agreeing to scheduling the game the following two years, but never would return McMinn's AD calls. I think it would have been good for both programs.
Now, somewhere along the line (about 2014) I think D-B's AD got wise and realized that D-B needed to play some credible competition during the season, so he scheduled some good teams.
I don't think D-B was any more scared to play McMinn last week than McMinn was scared to play D-B. I apologize if I came across that day. Nor do I think D-B had any hand in having the game cancelled. 

Don’t know what the motivation to play or avoid McMinn a decade ago might have been. One might think a team would want to exact revenge on an opponent that pulled a big upset the year before?  A decade ago, the conference contained smaller, local teams that did little to hone skills, then we would look to Knoxville (Bearden, Oak Ridge, Farragut, etc.) for the optional out of conf. Games.  When the conf changed to include the Knox teams, then we began looking to Greenville, Alcoa, etc. for non conf.  I don’t think we’ve ever seen wisdom in a non-challenging schedule, the TSSAA has dictated many of these changes through the years.  And yes, you are correct in that players from both teams wanted to be on field last week, players don’t think thoughts like fear the way fans do, lol.  

20 hours ago, blitzinbuc said:

Checking the records will verify everything I said.... or you can bury your head in the sand and pretend it didn't happen.

Blitz, I’m sorry the season ended the way it did for McMinn.  I know both teams players were ready to rumble and leave it on the field, but the overall insinuation from your posts seems to be that DB is afraid of McMinn.  We were afraid of you in 2009/2010 and were afraid of you now.  Does that about sum it up?  Your stories boil down to sour grapes if you ask me.  I can tell you they’re have a been a number of classy McMinn fans that have passed on well wishes through soc media in the last few days, I would like to think we’d have done the same.  Pull for Maryville this week, that’s fine.  Hopefully we can represent once we step on their field.  Still trying to improve our program in every way, but if there is one trait you won’t see with this team it is fear of an opponent. #anytimeanywhere

14 hours ago, WaCoJaCo said:

Their going to Dublin Ireland next year. So yeah.

In 2022 

11 hours ago, FootballFan51 said:

Sad. If Cleveland stayed within 7 most of the game, McMinn County would have won pretty big. 

Seriously??  With your mad skills, I’d head straight to Vegas.

I was quite shocked to see they were considering a tues game!  Not sure how you play tues and again fri or sat in Maryville?

Im sure McMinn would take that option about now, but would set up an even more daunting task for winner.

54 minutes ago, HTV said:

Interesting,  given that the SCDH representative wouldn't  even look at the documents presented ito them according to witnesses who were on the field. 

And, again. I don't fault DB here.  The issue seems to have been  an overreacting County health department official.  

I guess we will know tomorrow, I hate it for either side.   A loss seems unfair, a win seems hollow.

For those interested, there’s a great breakdown of protocol by a player mom who went through this with her son a few weeks ago on the DB football Facebook page.  It seems to boil down to tracing, following protocol and then being able to provide documentation to SCHD, Tssaa, etc., in those critical moments prior to scheduled kickoff.  Regardless of whether player was actually pos or neg, the health dept had to check all the boxes on protocol before they would allow game.  Apparently info provided wasn’t enough to satisfy.  
As a counterpoint, when the Sci Hill game was played, they had followed procedure and had provided everything necessary ahead of time to allow game to be approved.  So to summarize, McMinn may be completely healthy, but when players get tested you’ve got to show your work on scratch paper or may not get credit.

15 hours ago, AmericanSniper said:

Guys it really doesn’t matter because WE all know how this thing is going to play out. The TSSAA will award the win to DB and life marches on. 
I don’t agree with it as I believe they should play the game but that isn’t going to happen. DB gets the nod because McMinn is the small rural school with not much post season history and DB is the big boy on the block with the history and legacy. 
Stop the guessing and come to grip with the fact DB advances. I don’t like it but that’s what is going to happen and everyone on both sides knows it. Matter of fact everyone in the state of Tennessee knows what’s going to happen. 

So much speculation, lots of good posts using logic mixed with what little concrete info we have.  This post is just stupid however and contains none of the above mentioned.

6 minutes ago, blitzinbuc said:

Was it the Tennessee State Health Department who made the call? Who notified them? 
I just wish the TSSAA would meet with all parties concerned tomorrow and make a decision. Both teams and coaching staffs deserve a quick decision after all the facts are reviewed. One of the teams will be playing against Maryville next Friday, and they'll need more than a couple days to prepare for them.

Agree 100%.  Hopefully a final decision with thoughtful explanation will come before Monday.  I can tell you the DB staff will not wait be waiting for that announcement before beginning preparations for next week.

1 hour ago, Solomon said:

1. If mcminn brought a kid that has a positive test then coach should be fired.

2. If there is in fact no case then DB should have to forfeit.

I think the difference is that in this case the Covid team (McMinn) entered the DB facility, took the field and began warmups before the call was received informing DB of pos test.  Normally the Covid team alerts the opponent during the wk leading up to game, forfeits and the opponent moves on.  Because DB players were also on the field during these warmups there is now risk of their too being exposed.  An announcement is forthcoming as to whether DB is considered a risk playing Maryville.  I don’t think it will happen, but DB’s season could possibly have ended tonight as well.

1 hour ago, DBGRAD70 said:

Sad for McMinn but this is 2020.  Honestly, I was ready for DB to lose and let McMinn go on to get their throats cut in the black Cauldron.  It'll be 60-6 next week.

Aren’t you just a breath of fresh air.  Maybe we’ll invite you for a pre game pep talk if we’re lucky enough to have another chance to play

16 hours ago, Oldrebel63 said:

What is it that I hear DB CUT 20 some players from the team for the playoffs?

New COVID protocol requires entire team to quarantine if one positive test.  By removing anyone not intended to contribute, it reduces odds that one positive could literally end a team’s season.  Just moving forward with all players that will/could play in next game.

2 hours ago, timcraw said:

Nope still no playclock. As a DB fan i find it crazy too

Playclocks are currently installed in both end zones.  Courtesy of the fine folks at Associated Orthopedics.

1 hour ago, timcraw said:

I dont know if you meant me but I didnt mean to imply that its poor coaching. Thats bad wording on my part. If you look at last year and compare it to this year, for sure it is improving. I guess I just get frustrated at the weaknesses on the field for DB because im nervous it is gonna cost us later on. Good post sir

No worries, not directed at anyone in particular.  It’s been a running theme for years to be sure.  We all see the same thing, wish they’re weren’t any weaknesses but you have to address it best you can and they are.  FYI, new policy dealing with personal fouls, too.  We’ll see if that helps, lol.

2 hours ago, Tribal said:

Ah, one of the great myths of football fandom surfaces again.  Fans sitting in the stands or watching from home watch a pass arrive that would have been broken up or intercepted if only the DB had turned his head at the right moment.  Frustrating!  But those last four words--at the right moment--are really, really important.  Because if a DB turns his head too early, even half a second or a second too early, it may lead to disaster--huge separation and a TD if the WR changes direction or speeds up while the DB is looking back, pass interference if the WR slows down and the DB (who can no longer see him) runs into him, etc.  And unlike the frustrated fans watching a play develop, a DB chasing a WR can't see the ball being thrown or know when it's going to arrive.  That is why most coaches either coach DBs NOT to turn their head when chasing a WR downfield, or to do so only under very specific circumstances.  I think most emphasize keying on the WR's hands, and then there is a split on whether to try to time reaching for their hands to break up the catch as the ball arrives without looking back, v. looking back once the DB believes the WR's hands are preparing to make a catch and trying to intercept or break up the pass while looking back.  I have no idea what HS coaches around here teach these days, but the notion that if a DB would simply look back for the ball more often it would vastly improve things is false--if anything the opposite is more likely true.  There is a reason you often see the same thing (not looking back) in the NFL every Sunday, and it's not because the coaches are all idiots.

2 hours ago, Tribal said:

Ah, one of the great myths of football fandom surfaces again.  Fans sitting in the stands or watching from home watch a pass arrive that would have been broken up or intercepted if only the DB had turned his head at the right moment.  Frustrating!  But those last four words--at the right moment--are really, really important.  Because if a DB turns his head too early, even half a second or a second too early, it may lead to disaster--huge separation and a TD if the WR changes direction or speeds up while the DB is looking back, pass interference if the WR slows down and the DB (who can no longer see him) runs into him, etc.  And unlike the frustrated fans watching a play develop, a DB chasing a WR can't see the ball being thrown or know when it's going to arrive.  That is why most coaches either coach DBs NOT to turn their head when chasing a WR downfield, or to do so only under very specific circumstances.  I think most emphasize keying on the WR's hands, and then there is a split on whether to try to time reaching for their hands to break up the catch as the ball arrives without looking back, v. looking back once the DB believes the WR's hands are preparing to make a catch and trying to intercept or break up the pass while looking back.  I have no idea what HS coaches around here teach these days, but the notion that if a DB would simply look back for the ball more often it would vastly improve things is false--if anything the opposite is more likely true.  There is a reason you often see the same thing (not looking back) in the NFL every Sunday, and it's not because the coaches are all idiots.

Great post.  In addition to everything above, the DB coaches are trying to instill help from safety, corner, anyone close that will yell “ball” at the exact moment the DB should lift  arms for the block.  Without a doubt, the toughest position to develop on the field.  Many times the player is moved to that position group in HS and that’s where development begins.  The other star player development is QB and RB and their development begins in pee wee.  Not many 8 yr olds slinging it 40 yards down field, so identifying DBs begins later.  There are some very knowledgeable members on this board and many great posts, but I lose my mind when I read Indians don’t coach this position.  Some of the best coaches in this area are working with this group and they don’t take a play off.  Tremendous improvement in this regard.  Another post correctly stated you gotta have the dudes, too.