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2 hours ago, haweanbula said:

Fulton, Gibbs, AC, Carter, Seymour, Northview, Loudon, Sequoyah, South-Doyle. That's 9 schools that are either in knox county or within a short drive.

I can see the arguement for Sequoyah going to chattanooga. They've always played down there and it isn't a terrible drive. Loudon is closer to Knox county. Makes no sense for them to be sent down to chattanooga although Im sure the Head Coach at Loudon prefers to be down there then in region of knox county. 

 

The one that really doesn't make sense is sending Northview Academy up to Region 1. They are close to seymour, south-doyle, and carter. Their furthest drive would be AC which isn't really that far. 45 mins with no traffic. Putting them in Region 1. Their closest drive Greeneville and grainger will be 50 mins to an hr. Elizabethton, volunteer, Sullivan east are all going to be 1hr 30 to 2hr

We will never really know what the logic is behind their madness.  They are just still trying to count their 50% take on all the playoff games from last week.  Making room for the 60 playoff games cut that they will get tonight.  I hope the AD's are letting lots of people in for free.  I know it hurts the schools measly 25%, but maybe it could put a hit on the profit that the TSSAA makes.  I have always heard rumors about the lavish "company retreats" that the TSSAA takes each summer, but that could just be rumors.  Heard of a retreat in.... HAWAII a few years ago. 

Curious to hear who is happy and who is not?  Who all is appealing to move to another region?

Still wonder how the magical computer program that the T$$AA uses to find the best fit for regions, comes up with what it does?  Sounds suspect to me.  Living in the Region 2/3 area, sending Loudon and Sequoyah both to Chattanooga doesn't add up to me.  Not sure that they could explain it to me, and get me to understand.  Sequoyah's now closest trip (Besides to Loudon), will be farther than what their farthest Region 2 trip would have been.  Loudon is in an even bigger predicament than Sequoyah on travel. Vice versa, all of the Chattanooga schools have to drive all the way to Madisonville and Loudon for region games.  That also puts a hurting on the Monday night JV games.   Who would be the 'big wig' in Chattanooga that wanted those teams pulled that way?  More Region teams, less non-region games.  I bet the Region 2 teams are not happy! 

On 10/28/2022 at 2:11 PM, haweanbula said:

Week 1 and 2 have to be Non-Region

Week 3-11 have to be when all your Region games take place.

Week 11 has to be a region game unless you have a small region then you can play a non-region game

Half the classifications will be play on thursday week 11 and half will play on Friday then it will flip the following year

You can have non-region game week 3-11 if you have a small region. etc... And yeah you have to submit your off week also.

That makes it interesting.  A team may want to avoid scheduling a tough Non-Region game for Week 2, not knowing who the TSSAA would schedule for them in Week 3.  That makes things interesting.  

Another interesting thing is the fact that the TSSAA is setting the Region schedules for EVERYBODY!!!  Apparently, everyone was allowed to submit a bye week request.  They also submitted Rivalry games that may take place on a specific date.  First game of the year, last game of the year, Third Saturday in October, and situations like that.  So that makes it really difficult for teams to try and schedule non-region games before November 21.

6 minutes ago, haweanbula said:

If travel was TSSAAs #1 concern they woud put Gibbs, Fulton, AC, Northview, Seymour, Loudon, Sequoyah, Carter, Northview.

That would be a 9 team region. I doubt TSSAA does that though. 

I agree with that.  Region 1 is already somewhat spread out. 

One thing that always pops out to me, is the schools that are competitive in a larger class, and then their enrollment drops to lower their classification.  Many times, those teams are hard to beat in their new class.  White County and Station Camp come to mind when thinking about that situation.

P.S. Can we please stop talking about Alcoa playing up, they have no reason to do so.  Why move when you are winning?  Players and coaches work too hard to not have the absolute best shot at winning.

5 minutes ago, haweanbula said:

You could also send Loudon down south keep Northview and have 7-7-7 split between region 2, 3, 4, and 6 in Region 1. 

You could, but Loudon is 20-25 minutes closer to Knoxville than Sequoyah.  Sequoyah is closer to Knoxville than it is Chattanooga.  

Sequoyah to Region 2 would make their farthest Region game about an hour and fifteen minutes away to Gibbs.  

Sequoyah's shortest trip in Region 3 would be to East Ridge, which is an hour and eighteen minutes. 

Doesn't even make sense to send Sequoyah south, but that's probably what will happen.

Here is what I'm predicting for 4A.  Right now, there are only 5 schools in the Chattanooga Region.  With Loudon playing up, I feel like that definitely sends Sequoyah to Region 3 for balance.  The distances do not add up though.  If the TSSAA is truly concerned with travel?

Region 1- 7 teams- With Northview going to Region 1.

Region 2- 7 teams- With the addition of Loudon to the Knoxville region, that could give Region 1 & 2 an even split.  Sequoyah to Region 2 would make their farthest Region game about an hour and fifteen minutes away to Gibbs.

Region 3- 6 teams- Chattanooga schools + Sequoyah (Sequoyah's shortest trip in Region 3 would be to East Ridge, which is an hour and eighteen minutes)

Region 4- 7 teams

Region 5- 8 teams.  With Marshall County having about an hour and a half average travel time.

Region 6 & 7- 11 teams total.  2 scenarios here.  Does the TSSAA split them with Interstate 40 or do they use a East-West divide?

Interstate 40 Split

Region 6- Hardin County, Chester County, Jackson South Side, Lexington, Fayette-Ware (5 teams)

Region 7- Obion County Central, South Gibson, Jackson North Side, Haywood County, Crockett County, Dyer County (6 teams)

or

East-West Split

Region 6- Hardin County, Chester County, Jackson North Side, Jackson South Side, Lexington, South Gibson (6 teams)

Region 7- Obion County, Dyer County, Haywood County, Crockett County, Fayette Ware (5 teams)

Region 8- 6 teams

10 hours ago, Jet Pride said:

I would say Loudon will go to Region 3 because they are close to Sequoyah 

Here is what I'm predicting for 4A.  Right now, there are only 5 schools in the Chattanooga Region.  With Loudon playing up, I feel like that definitely sends Sequoyah to Region 3 for balance.  The distances do not add up though.  If the TSSAA is truly concerned with travel?

Region 1- 7 teams- With Northview going to Region 1.

Region 2- 7 teams- With the addition of Loudon to the Knoxville region, that could give Region 1 & 2 an even split.  Sequoyah to Region 2 would make their farthest Region game about an hour and fifteen minutes away to Gibbs.

Region 3- 6 teams- Chattanooga schools + Sequoyah (Sequoyah's shortest trip in Region 3 would be to East Ridge, which is an hour and eighteen minutes)

Region 4- 7 teams

Region 5- 8 teams.  With Marshall County having about an hour and a half average travel time.

Region 6 & 7- 11 teams total.  2 scenarios here.  Does the TSSAA split them with Interstate 40 or do they use a East-West divide?

Interstate 40 Split

Region 6- Hardin County, Chester County, Jackson South Side, Lexington, Fayette-Ware (5 teams)

Region 7- Obion County Central, South Gibson, Jackson North Side, Haywood County, Crockett County, Dyer County (6 teams)

or

East-West Split

Region 6- Hardin County, Chester County, Jackson North Side, Jackson South Side, Lexington, South Gibson (6 teams)

Region 7- Obion County, Dyer County, Haywood County, Crockett County, Fayette Ware (5 teams)

Region 8- 6 teams

14 hours ago, theawesomebro said:

LA is officially moving up in 2023.

I assume that you are talking about Livingston Academy?

On 10/22/2022 at 6:24 AM, cbg said:

Why would it be so terrible for everyone but the fans?  Would it be due to the fact that coaches and players must actually win and be good to be rewarded with a playoff appearance 

It takes a ton of work, plus a ton of luck, to win consistently in high school football.  It is extremely difficult to turn a high school program into a winner, especially if they haven't been a proven winner before.  Football coaches have to convert not only the teenagers playing for them, but everybody else that is involved in the decision making process that affects a football program.  Private schools can go out and get the best players from the public schools that are around them.  Public schools get what the privates do not want.  Private schools can get the Jimmy's and the Joe's if they chose to do so.  Public schools may have a Jimmy or a Joe, but they also have Randy, Gary, Jerry, and Donnie.  

4 hours ago, haweanbula said:

Upperman is west of Cookeville

Chattanooga has

East Ridge, Signal Mountain, Hixson, Soddy Daisy, and Red Bank

Yes, I messed that one up.  Got my dots crossed up.  That is 7 teams near Cookeville.

32 minutes ago, Greenbackpride said:

I find it funny how Alcoa is labeled as cowards!!!! If one would go to just one practice you would c why Alcoa is succesful. They work harder then anyone around.  Scouts have made the statement that there high school practice is more demanding then most college practices.  They demand perfection and the kids by into it. They play in the class they r suppose to play in. So that being said. Practice harder, lift weights and get stronger.  If u wanna be the best PUT IN THE WORK.

I love this post.  Most the 'Alcoa moving up' chatter comes from the people that want them out of 3a.

3 hours ago, haweanbula said:

Historically, Sequoyah goes to Chattanooga region 3. There are 5 4a teams in the Chattanooga area. You need to send Sequoyah down their to have a 6 team region. 

There are six.  

East Ridge

Hixson

Red Bank

Signal Mountain- Up from 3a

Soddy Daisy

Upperman

So, I was just told that Heritage is appealing to be in 4a.  Enrollment number sits at 1,194.  Their claim is that the new Eagleton College and Career Academy will lower their enrollment for next year by 100 students or so.  They would definitely be in Region 2.  Does Millington Central get put into Region 7 instead of Region 8?  Which direction will Sequoyah go?  I'm not sure which direction that they won't to go, but they are closer to Knoxville.  Just can't wait to see how this all unfolds.

16 hours ago, cbg said:

Instead of teams moving up let's just put D1 & D2 back together into one classification with 3 divisions.  All financial aid giving schools must play in AA or AAA.  Only the champion from each district (16 districts) would qualify for the playoffs.  Now that would be a man's league!  Very little travel for teams to find quality opponents.  

That sounds terrible for everybody involved with football, except for fans.  Plus, the TSSAA wouldn't be able to fund their salaries and "Company Retreats" with that.

11 minutes ago, Eaglefan19 said:

Understand your analogy but I’m just hearing they both will be in same region. Could be wrong but we will see. 

So you are just hearing that in the Sevier County community?  I understand.  The toughest part of it all is that nobody knows what the folks at 3333 Lebanon Pike, Hermitage, TN 37076 are truly going to come up with.  

19 minutes ago, Eaglefan19 said:

They will not separate Seymour and Northview being in same school system… either they both go to region 1 or both stay in region 2… 

Jackson North Side and Jackson South Side are in the SAME city and the SAME school system, both in 4a.  And they are in separate regions.  Not sure that the TSSAA is very concerned with that.  But maybe they favor the different type of demographics in East Tennessee compared to West Tennessee.

Northview to Seymour- 21 minutes, 13.3 miles.  Very curvy 2 lane road for most of the drive.  The part near Northview can be very congested with tourism traffic.

North Side to South Side- 19 minutes, 9.2 miles.  One road with a roundabout (traffic circle) near the center of the route.  City traffic.

Hmmm... 

You may be correct, but your logic isn't adding up.

46 minutes ago, Eaglefan19 said:

They would send AC north if anyone … Northview and Seymour will not be separated being in same county and would stay in region 2

Northview is easier to get to for the Region 1 folks, Seymour is easily accessible from Knoxville or Region 2.  Jackson North Side and Jackson South Side are in two separate regions, so the same county idea goes out the window.  Sequoyah is a wild card for Region 1 and 2.  Sequoyah High School is about 25-30 minutes closer to Knoxville than Chattanooga.  Dyer County should fall into Region 7.  They are currently in Region 8-5a.  Millington Central and Lakeland Prep will add to Region 8.  Does Wooddale play up again?  Region 5 looks to be a 7 team region, which would be Nashville schools + Marshall County.  White County adds to Region 4, the Cookeville area region.  Region 3 loses East Hamilton and Chattanooga Central, but gains Signal Mountain.  

I'm predicting 26 teams in Regions 1-4, and 23 teams in Regions 5-8.  Of course, that is with no one moving up.  3 Regions with 7 teams (1,2,5), 3 Regions with 6 teams (3,4,8), and Regions 6 & 7 with 5 teams each.  This is strictly based of geography.

4 schools chose to play up the last time reclassification happened. 

Jackson County played up in 2a

Milan, Wooddale, and Pearl Cohn all played up in 4a

The BIG QUESTION is... Who will chose to play up in the next cycle?

Everyone that doesn't want to deal with Alcoa, starts the rumor that they will be playing up.  Will that be true?  Only coach Nix knows!  Interested in seeing the rumors...

15 minutes ago, Ttown58 said:

Lawrence County will be in 5A next year

You are correct, I missed that initially.

Will Wooddale play up again this next cycle?

With White House and Station Camp more than likely going to Region 5 in 4a, does that send Marshall County, and Giles County (If they play up) to Region 6?  Or does Station Camp and White House go to Region 4 with the Cookeville area schools, which will add White County to the mix.  Region 3 loses East Hamilton and Chattanooga Central, but adds Signal Mountain.  I feel like Sequoyah is a borderline Region 2/3, but losing a team in Region 3 makes them lean more towards Chattanooga.  Is Pearl Cohn going to play up?

10 minutes ago, tnredskin said:

I doubt it! With the new high school coming on the other end of the county, our numbers should drop quite a bit

in the next few years! 

How soon will that school open?  What schools will lose students to that new school?