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18 hours ago, RakingCoal said:

If Bearden does not get punished by the T$$AA, then it shows that public schools have no rules.  But I guess Alcoa and Maryville have already showed us that.

Ok Einstein, name 1 player for Maryville that has made a difference to this years Maryville team, that was not on the team last year and transferred in?  They have a d-lineman whose family moved from California and a kicker who moved from Idaho, but no players have moved in from another TN high school.  Alcoa on the other hand, has at least 3 starting seniors that played for another high school team last year.  Bradley has 2 extremely impactful senior transfers this season.  Bearden has a slew of Knox Co transfers but the only Senior I know about didn't contribute much due to injuries.

Two different teams playing for the rematch.  BC has a lot of weapons on both sides of ball and could mix it up against Maryville.  QB and RB #2 gutted Rebels defense with 246 yds rushing in last game, along with 210 yds passing.  BC QB has a cannon but seems alot of their yards passing come from screens and short passes, making teams tackle them in open space which is tough to do.  BC is different this time around as it looks like the lines have improved and their offensive playbook is much larger than Sep 1st.

Maryville has a much different team, with recent adjustments to defensive scheme, adding a d-lineman in place of a LB and primarily running a 4 man front.  QB5 has made a difference by making plays.  O line has improved dramatically since the previous matchup-a change at LG along with having Right Tackle back, who is committed to Liberty, who did not play in the BC or West game.  RB7 didn't play earlier in the year and I think he can make a difference.  RB1 played well against BC last time and expect to see them utilize both backs.  RB1 is close to 1,000 yds on season and RB7 is heading to Air Force, so you've got to respect both.

Totally fine with Maryville being the underdawgs and they should be.  BC has a lot of talent and coached well.  They are having a fantastic season and I love the fan support that Bradley Central- great game atmosphere.  If the players and coaches that board the 3 buses on Cedar St friday, believe they can win, they can do it.  200 yards- if Maryville can hit that number rushing, they will win.  And they can do that if the O-line plays a solid game and average 5 yards per carry.

1 hour ago, Solomon said:

Should be back 100% 

100% May be a stretch in my opinion.  Appeared from my pov he is not there yet but i think he can be in a couple weeks.  Agree, need to not rush it. Love having him back in pads but he's been leading on sidelines ever since his injury.  Need Ladue 100% for 2nd round vs either Bradley or Bearden.  And even then, I’d put 1 and 7 in the backfield, run a two back set. RB1 was a dawg last night- had 150y offense and 2 td's last night. 

Rebels playing best two games of year the last two weeks. Alot of momentum, peaking at right time. Strong performances in last two games from guys who will be coming back next year-QB5, RB1, LB24. Future is bright for Rebels.

Disappointed in Alcoa fans, looking for excuses instead of just admitting they got outcoached and outplayed. Rebels wanted it more.  I pull for Alcoa in the playoffs, always have because Blount Co and respect for program. Alcoa fans on here now make me want to pull against the program, pitiful. 

Rebels 45

Mountaineers 2

Bad snap deep in Rebel territory which results in a safety for Heritage.

Mountaineers 30

Beavers 2

On 9/13/2023 at 12:03 PM, Bulldog27 said:

As soon as we win 2 district games I know of two teams that are planning on the official complaint to TSSAA. Kinda sucks for us as we should have known better.

I know others are doing it but Jones is sloppy.

it’s pretty black and white if you’ve seen the texts messages.

Don't believe this in the slightest.  I suppose your reasoning of this rumor is so they have to forfeit 2 games in region?

And even if someone files an official complaint, I do not see TSSAA doing a darn thing about it.  Pretty sure TSSAA won't drop what they are doing and immediately investigate this.  It will received and reviewed sometime in the next couple months.

Be nice to have a summary since most cannot read it due to subscription...

Rule it a tie for both teams or play the game tomorrow.  No contest- give me a break, that is every kid gets a trophy crap.   I would have to think G-ville would have been pushing to finish the game or find a way to play this weekend,

Should be interesting to see if West's 2-3 ballers can make plays. #2 and #44 are for real, very good players.  Verdict still out on #1.  Last years Rebels were one of the best in the entire state (public schools), along with Oakland and Alcoa.  Excellent coaching staff and program at West.

Not many believe Maryville is good enough to win, including some of their own fan base.  But, doesn't matter as long as the ones wearing black helmets tonight, believe it. 

Game is won up front tonight,  West will need big plays to win.  Maryville will need to control the line of scrimmage and rush it 30-35 times in order to win.

Da Bears 42

WV            12

Even despite Bears fan base looking towards semis & Oakland

21 hours ago, BarneySox2007 said:

The basic thing they learn through the feeder system is discipline. The junior high and the high school are so polar opposite it's unbelievable how that's went out so long. I watched for years GQ would have 90 players and the majority of them would get in the ball game at some point. Then you would watch the junior high play and have 60 players and most of the starters went both ways and it would be a miracle if 20 kids even got in a ball game in a runaway. Most people on here that are a part of the Maryville program will tell you I'm not bull$#1+ing.

100% agree

17 hours ago, osunut2 said:

AC probably won't beat Bearden this week, but they should handle Fulton the following week. The Falcons are pretty thin, and they can't stop anyone. Honestly, at this point, AC is still better than the rest of that region even with Moog out. That entire region is pretty pedestrian this year.

Agree, won't see a win against Bearden but will win big against Fulton as the Falcons are competing for worst team in K-town.  What happened to all the hype around the superstar gunslinger qb transfer from Jeff Co?

Alcoa by 35

2 hours ago, JSamson7 said:

Rebels also missed the playoffs that year, Alcoa didn’t. I'd rather have a spot in the post season over a W in the Blount County championship.

Fur point

2 hours ago, BCsportsfan said:

Again... No passing League activity? Really? It's 2023 not 1996.........

Bad year to make the comparison.

Rebels went 5-5 in 1996, but they did beat Alcoa 40-12, hehehehe

4 hours ago, BCsportsfan said:

Looking at 5Star Preps "Team's Summer Schedule" Shows murvul NOT competing in any scrimmages or tournaments? 

No passing league activity? Must be expecting LaDue to carry the load this fall?

Since everyone believe the Rebels are a has been and will barely make the playoffs- and now questions concerning them not being in a passing league- lets clear some things up.

They scrimmaged Anderson Co and Greenville in 7v7 before dead period.  And since everyone wants to go back to the good ole days of a state championship, lets look at the 2019 offensive stats.

Averages over the 15 games that year, resulting in a 15-0 record

Avg rushing attempts/yards per game- 38 for 244 yrds (70%)

Avg pass attempts/completions - 11 for 16 (30%) for 176 yds

Season scoring avg of 40 points per game

SO ARGUE THIS- DEFENSE WINS CHAMPIONSHIPS

Defense- Avg Total yards given up and points scored on 

2019- 159                   avg per game 8

2020- 242                   avg per game 11

2021- 222                  avg per game 13

2022 - 245                 avg per game 17

SO DO YOU THINK MARYVILLE IS IN THE TOILET BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT ALL IN ON 7 ON 7 PASSING LEAGUES?  I think Maryville could care less about passing leagues.  Hold teams to under 200 yards and less than 10 points and you win ball games, period...

0 Questions on offense, my  prediction, offense will be more productive in 2023.  Gage is a stud but wait and see, other players will produce and become household names.  Offense line is bigger and faster this year than last.

***Thank you for various media outlets for providing historical stats

9 minutes ago, BarneySox2007 said:

Most smart Maryville fans realize the big ride is finally over. The short supply of really  good athelets has showed it's ugly head and what it can actually do. It's left Maryville fans talking about the youth that is coming up from the 8th grade which most smart people that have been around a while know that all changes. My biggest dissapointment is all the people moving in to this area didn't bring any football players with them, only the fruits and nuts from California came which should add more problems to the school system as a whole which I'm just about ready to separate myself if it gets any worse like the stupid principal they fished out of Florida. The Oakland roadblock which seems to have grown so big has taken it out of a lot of big time Maryville fans and became so predictable and now Alcoa and West have finally caught up and passed us. The bad thing is Bradley Central and Bearden may possibly join the crowd this year and who knows if there may be another surprise like Cleveland in the mix that ended a streak that started before those kids were even born. We still have a good coaching staff but their backs are really going to be on the wall this year. The big question mark in my opinion was last year just a fluke or will this group return us back to glory. There is a big difference in reloading or rebuilding. Rebuilding has always been the brand of football most teams go by but reloading has always been the brand Maryville strives on.

Barney

Go back and watch the 2018 and 2020 Maryville v Oakland.  Both were complete beat downs.  This past years semifinal matchup was at least closer despite the fact that '18 and '20 were still the "glory days", much more talent than last years team.  Bradley will be much more talented and Bearden as well, but that hasn't EVER stopped Maryville.  For 20+ years, Maryville on paper typically has far fewer future-college players but somehow, they always manage to win a majority of their games with teams having alot more D1 players.  They do this by coaching and getting kids to buy into a team concept.  I think Maryville excels when the nah-sayers rule them out.  I think it will take until week 3 before you see what Maryville can or can't do.  And Maryville will be underdogs in that game based on Bradley loading up on talent in the off-season.  Correct me if I am wrong, but Bradley will have at least 5-D1 commits that include the states top player.  Heritage will be a closer game than typical because Heritage has gotten better, not because Maryville is falling apart.  Central, week 2, will not give Maryville much of a game. 

1 hour ago, jhawk23 said:

I think it would also be a shame if the Oakland-Maryville semifinal streak comes to an end this year, though I'm sure plenty would disagree with that. It's going to happen eventually and Bradley might just have the team to do it, but I wouldn't ever count Maryville out. Not saying that you are, just saying in general because I do think some folks are writing Maryville off way too soon. 

Agree, a lot of people writing Maryville off and that's fine.  Maryville performs pretty good being the underdog.  Boo Carter is a fantastic player, will see if adding him will result in winning games.  Still need a QB to get him the ball and a line to block.  Bradley had a lot on the line when they faced Maryville last year and they were gutted by the Rebels.  Let's also see how the team chemistry is when you bring in a superstar.

It's a shame that a kid can play sports for 3 different schools in 9 months.  TSSAA has got to revisit this.  

On 5/9/2023 at 2:45 AM, BarneySox2007 said:

If Boo Carter does end up at Bradley and we play there that may be the answer your looking for. Hope I'm wrong but this won't be a vacation for a defensive that lost ten starters.

That is BS if that takes place.  Kid plays for 3 high schools in 12 month period.  TSSAA can't let this happen, hoping from school to school until he gets what?  Money is the only answer I come up with

1 hour ago, Elias287 said:

Yes, it’s been confirmed that he’s going to Bradley Central (Per me). They are going to be very dangerous next year, especially with former Rhea County transfer and Miami of Ohio quarterback commit Caleb Martin. He’s only a sophomore going into junior this upcoming football season, so Bradley Central will have him for two years. But they have a lot of talent this year, and I think the sky is the limit if they can use it correctly. They can go very far in the playoffs.

Boo Carter transferred in the winter to Brainerd and now again?

His twitter is still Brainerd.  But check out his twitter, 5 star, #1 Athlete in TN, ESPN Top 300.  Tells me Boo Carter is out for 1 person- and that's him.  Don't get me wrong, he is a player and legit with all the accolades he has, but why transfer?  Not sure winning a TEAM state championship is high on his list.  But if it is, then props to him.

TSSAA needs to dig in their heels on this- Kid playing for 3 teams in less than 12 months, doesn't seem right.  And if this happens and they do nothing, open the gates boys, transfer every year in high school.  Form mega teams, just like the current NCAA FBS.

Its BS, it's gonna ruin high school football for the above average high school student athlete.

15 hours ago, Zitt said:

Bearden just hired the central defensive backs coach, so from what I’ve heard, he’s bringing over central’s entire secondary. Lol

He can do that and sit on the bench.  Bearden current secondary is way better than anything Central would bring over.

On 2/9/2023 at 6:09 PM, BarneySox2007 said:

Much tougher schedule this year is one thing that could hurt. I was really surprised with the season they had last year but I couldn't understand the fall off after the Sevier County game. They went down to Lenior City and and looked like a totally different team then layed down to Halls next. Keep in mind Maryville lost ten on defense so I don't see another 45-7 game this coming year. When Maryville put in their JV team the play was pretty even last year and that's who replaces those ten on defense.

Maryville, on the road (maybe unless County can't pay for a field), wins by 28.  Mark it down...

3 hours ago, BarneySox2007 said:

I see 7 winable games. If Maryville don't come up with a qb and having to replace 10 defensive starters from a defense that got tarred and feathered and run out of town on a rail against Oakland then 8 isn't an impossible.

Ridiculous Barney.  QB question mark is irrelevant on the season.  Last year they took a transfer and tired to fit him into the offense ( which is always a mobile QB, and no offense but he was not) and they made it to THE 6A SEMIS!

No doubt alot to fill on defense but the system will prevail, JV kids on Def will step up and be good.  Only, repeat only question mark is the D-line.  Offense will be better in '23 than last year.  Alot more Juniors that will contribute than anyone has ever heard of.  Senior class is not strong but Junior class has alot of talented kids.  Very few sophmores will be called on- only 1 O-line and maybe 1 d-line, no skill players in Soph class will contribute.  And no Freshman qb's

On 2/17/2023 at 2:44 PM, jhawk23 said:

Only by 18? They'll have to improve significantly just to have a chance of beating Maryville. Oakland is a different animal. I don't think Bearden has beaten Maryville since the early 90s

1993, Bearden won at Maryville 28-7

21 hours ago, MidTennFootball said:

Brought up the same points I was going to make. Maryville is the 3rd best public program in the state, it just so happens that one of the top 2 is on their side of the bracket. Their still king of the hill in East TN 6A and very few times has it been close in the postseason. Don't think the list of coaches is long that could have done what Hunt has 

Talent level has hurt Maryville a little, but truth of the matter is there are just more families moving to Middle TN than East TN. If it wasn't Oakland, it would probably be someone else

 Maryville's staff has been pretty intact for most of the Hunt's tenure but where the gap is biggest (up front and defense) is where Maryville had 2 great coaches leave. Gaylor had less talent to work with than Oakland, but he always had a nasty bunch on defense. I apologize to Maryville folks im drawing a blank on the OL coach but it's been a significant dropoff for them upfront

Maryville has created a standard of success where anything short of a title feels like a disappointment, but it shouldnt be. 23 straight appearances in the semis, that's something that Oakland or Alcoa isnt even close to and don't think it's ever going to be duplicated once the streak ends 

Finally, someone with some actual good points makes a comment on this thread, and appears he's an Oakland fan!  Thank you MidTenn for your valued comments as some Murvl fans think the sky is falling after losing in semis to a very talented and well coached Oakland team.

@Barney, no question the defense for Murvl will be the big question mark.  Losing the entire DL, a very good MLB and a good CB.  The other corner started every game as a Junior, is the sole returning starter.  But, the ‘22 defense had its fair share of 1^st year starters including both safeties (both never got valuable minutes at varsity prior to SR year), JR CB and two outside linebackers that were seniors.  The “Will” backer started a game or two his junior year but that was it.  The Oakland offense exposed the lack of talent at certain positions.  But, if you recall, the last 2 games at Oakland wer even more lopsided (’18 &’20) and both of those Maryville teams were supposed to have a lot more talent.  **2018 was 38-0 and 2020 was 49-7 Oakland and FWIW, GQ last game, was a loss at Oakland 23-7.   Barney, seriously questioning why GQ left and you think it was because the talent was drying up?  Wow, he is now HC at a D1 University and you think that was his reason to leave- thats absurd, an opportunity presented itself and he took and look at him now.

Would ask those on this thread, maybe if the talent is less than previous years, its time for a change in philosophy and have your best, most talented kids play offense and defense?  Maryville has had a mindset to avoid players going both ways which goes back to Hammontree’s 1^st season, 1993.  In recent years, you think T Hodge or I Cobb would have made good linebackers?  Or how about Vaughn or Ladue playing on defense last year or Manaker playing a H back/Tight End?  There have been a few that have went both ways the last few years but not many.

Last comment, Rebel football in numbers is high.  The middle school had 65- 70 kids last year (only had 55 Jersey’s), this year they are not taking 6^th graders and they had 50 out for spring practice which were only 7^th and 8^th graders.  I do not see much correlation between numbers in middle school vs success in high school.