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Congratualations are in order for the "Canes tournament run, a grand effort put forward by these kids. A pretty darn good job considering there was only 3 players that made the all-conference teams( 2 on 1st team-1 on 2nd team). But that is another story within itself. Good luck to the 2 region representatives.
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Agree with you CNfn. All I can say is I would not want to be the coach that has to figure that one out next year.. Altizer did a good job under the circumstances of not really knowing the players or his talent. With some major practice and summer camps some of the players can develop by next year. They will have to choose baseball and dedicate to it only, in order for it to happen.
East has a nucleus of players and some upcoming talent that should make them competitive. But you are right, they need to put their best skill players in the infield
where most of the damage was done this year.
Rines knows the kids and with Altizers help they should be better next year with some luck. Hopefully they will work hard this summer and fall.
I agree There are at least 3 players on East that will unlikely get a shcolarship in football but if they work on baseball and improve there defense stand agood chance of a shcolarship. If they dont I dont see it happening in either sport. They will need to choose baseball and work all year to develop. Unlike others I believe defense skills are developed not born with. Otherwise there will be more than one incoming freshman starting ov varsity next year.
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You are right he is a great kid and he should have played more during the season especially if the coach didn't cancel so many games and tournaments. He is a great power hitter and should have played DH, first base, and pinched hit in each and "every" game. And I emphasize every game. We could have used his bat alot more. The coach may have felt guilty and tried to make up for his failure to play him during the season. Not the right place , time or position to do so. Something should have been said long ago about that, but most are intimidated.
But don't hang him out in the championship game and let them tag him for 6 runs. I don't think he deserved that .You are right he should have played but you don't spot a team like JC 6 runs before you try someone else. If that were my friend, brother or son out there I would have been the first to tell the coach to take him out after 3 runs in 2 innings.
The freshman is a great kid too with a bright future but don't throw him the first time on varsity in the championship game. I am not sure that is where he should have made his pitching debuit. Again he should have seen action during the year as he was being groomed. It never happened , but there were opportunities to do so. But don't throw him to the wolves and potentially destroy his confidence. He didn't deserve that either.
Josh Green would have been a better choice in that situation against a power hitting team. He has good fast ball and a more than average curve ball. And what about Jeremy Dickerson. He deserved to play too, during the season and even pitch an inning or two om this one. There was nothing wrong with pitching who he pitched. The problem was how long he waited to change pitcher each time.
If coach wanted to give a great kid a chance to contribute , he should have played alot more with his power and awesome bat. The real question is why he didn't once play DH or 1st Base in the tournament or even during the season, not pitcher? That would be like pitching Mike Piazza in the last game of the World Series. He like Piazza has a future in baseball but not at pitcher..
As far as being home by now, I am not so sure you can give him as much credit as you seem to be doing? One thing you can definitely say about J Rice is that he knows "pitching". And the kids seemed to like him and respect he and Wills. Wills would have made sense as an interim but politics prevailed again. At least Wills would have practiced them and played more games. More players would have developed and had a chance to play during the season.
BTW what does Kent Basil and basketball have to do with this? Where did that come from? He would have been the worst choice to start in "that game", let alone pitch during the tournament . If Basil pitched I am sure it would have been 6 runs in one inning.
Good hitters are rarely good pitchers. That is the WHOLE POINT! Knowing your players and where to play them is a sign of good coaching. Seals, Stansberry and the rest of the IMAC guys seem to have that.
This was my post to DAFAN(Jeff fan) and his comments above, but I say ditto to you BiMed(east fan). Look above for DAFAN's excellent comment about the IMAC coaches style of baseball. How many times did you see a bunt, a steal, a hit and run and how about the base running. That is one of the areas that good coaches earn there living on. DAFAN obviously knows something.....Here is my post to his above comments on what he describes as HILLBILLY BASEBALL.
Great post. I am sure that is what all the hoopla is about. Some of the parents who probably know something about baseball may have questioned some coach's decisions. I am sure part of the reason for Hillbilly Baseball as you call it , has to do with the fact that most of the coaches never played and/or studied the game outside of the IMAC.
To limit coaching to teachers only also dilutes out the "pool" of potential knowledgeable people. No wonder and the result is predictable.
Most of these coaches act like dictators and go ballistic if anyone questions their judgement. Instead they should be thankful that someone cares to voice their concern or knowledge of the game. They don't see it that way however. They see it as " I guess those parents etc think they know more than us". Maybe they do or maybe they don't? Hence why the IMAC continues to play what you have appropriately called HILLBILLY BASEBALL.
I have noticed that people that think they know it all, no matter what area of life, are the one's who never advance or learn to live life outside of their little "box". Maybe some will wake up and see the LIGHT. And hopefully some of these kids will get out of here and learn real baseball.
You are one who knows the truth and is not afraid to speak it. I applaud you for your efforts. Keep it up. Most are running scared and would dare not rock the IMAC boat
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I would hope that we made our IMAC foes feel welcome and that all IMAC fans & teams were treated well.
If you are talking about coaching, your right, I was to busy trying to figure out why our coach didn't put the game away to wonder what your coach was doing. I wrote a post this morning only to delete it. The post was entitled "HILLBILLY BASEBALL". Don't think I'm a Yankee, I'm born and raised in ET. One point to ponder, why are IMAC players not being recruited? I know about Bowlin, but how about Long? Depew? I'm not talking about CN and WS either. Our (imac) brand of baseball isn't being played at the college level. To find our style of play we must look at the little league fields. Were's the "SMALL BALL"? Believe me, Halls & South Doyle know how to bunt and steal? We play Sunday afternoon back yard baseball in the IMAC and whole state know's it!
Great post. I am sure that is what all the hoopla is about. Some of the parents who probably know something about baseball may have questioned some coach's decisions. I am sure part of the reason for Hillbilly Baseball as you call it , has to do with the fact that most of the coaches never played and/or studied the game outside of the IMAC.
To limit coaching to teachers only also dilutes out the "pool" of potential knowledgeable people. No wonder and the result is predictable.
Most of these coaches act like dictators and go ballistic if anyone questions their judgement. Instead they should be thankful that someone cares to voice their concern or knowledge of the game. They don't see it that way however. They see it as " I guess those parents etc think they know more than us". Maybe they do or maybe they don't? Hence why the IMAC continues to play what you have appropriately called HILLBILLY BASEBALL.
I have noticed that people that think they know it all, no matter what area of life, are the one's who never advance or learn to live life outside of their little "box". Maybe some will wake up and see the LIGHT. And hopefully some of these kids will get out of here and learn real baseball.
You are one who knows the truth and is not afraid to speak it. I applaud you for your efforts. Keep it up. Most are running scared and would dare not rock the IMAC boat.
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There comes a time when you have to take the heat for doing a poor job of coaching and Coach Froning not only has admitted error but has taken blame for ending his own teams season. Any time I see a coach do the right thing I must salute this coach. Unlike Oak Ridge's former football coach who always blamed the players Coach Froning has shown character and should be admired for his stance on this matter.
This rule is to protect the pitchers from injury. Rules are rules. Halls has every right to protest but not an obligation. Does this show character for the Halls coach? You can answer that one yourself....If you get your butt kicked, in an upset, where it is obvious there was no intent regarding Oak Ridge to gain advantage where does character reveal itself? You lick your wounds and congradulate Oak Ridge and call it a season. Karma will reveal itself in Halls next few games.
Great effort Oak Ridge Players!
My advise to Coach Froning is don't resign. An honest mistake was made that Hall's coach could have ignored. Seems he knew the rule and was just waiting to
apply the protest since he knew he could not win legitimatelym
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How's about a thread for the Tournament?
Morristown East knocked off Cocke Co 10-7 in the opening game.
Jack Depew slammed his 13th home run of the season in the first. A towering drive that landed over near the JCHS Softball Complex behind left field.
Then Kent Basile came to life. Basile had 2 HRs, a double for 7 RBIs.
Basile smacked a two-out, three-run homer in the first, and added a two-run double in the sixth and a two-run homer in the sixth to put East up 10-2.
Cocke County rallied loading the bases in the seventh and pushed across five runs, but the rally fell short (as did Jake Wylies two attempts for a grand slam in an inning. On back to back pitches the CCHS catcher hit two long bombs which cleared the fence that were just foul).
Depew drew 3 intentional walks (including a bases loaded intentional pass in the seventh) in the game.
Derek Marshall improved to 4-3 with the win for East.
Jefferson County obliterated Cherokee in the second game.
Church I believe smacked a homerun on the game's first pitch and it was on from there. The Patriots scored 5 in the first and fourth innings, to race out to the 13-3 win.
Top Seed Greeneville takes on Morristown East tomorrow at 1
Second Seed Morristown West plays Jefferson County at 3:30
Should be a fun day out at Patriot Park.
Depew is the best in the IMAC this year despite his loss against East. He has led his team better than any other player. The emphasis should be that of "a leader" of his team. How many times have you seen an opposing team walk a player with the bases loaded. East obviously respects his ability as they walked him rather than pitch to him with the bases loaded.
Venerable is a closer second than Bowlin at this point in time. There is more than just hitting and homeruns. Basile is the future big time player of the IMAC . Who wins the tournament may carry some weight as well.These guys are all deserving of all district and regional honors. But we shall see how the tournament and politics sort them out. Lets not forget Depew just because his team could not make it any further in the tournament. Here is what Depew's sports writer and coach had to say.
May 8, 2005
The Newport Plain Talk
News Article
Big Red’s season ends in District Tournament
©2005 NPT PHOTO BY SETH BUTLER Cocke County senior Jack Depew hit a home run in his final game as a Fighting ######, as well as recieveing the nod from head coach Casey Taylor to be the team’s starting pitcher in the IMAC District Tournament at Jefferson County High School on Friday.
By: SETH BUTLER NPT Sports Writer
Source: The Newport Plain Talk
05-07-2005
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By SETH BUTLER
NPT Sports Writer
DANDRIDGE—Silence, hanging heads,
and even a few drops of tears was the
post-game scene for the Cocke County
High School Fighting Cocks following
Friday’s Inter Mountain Athletic
Conference tournament opener.
It wasn’t supposed to end like this, but
every team with the exception of the State
Champion has their season end with a
loss.
But those hanging heads seemed just a
little out of place for a valiant effort put
forth by the Cocke County squad.
The Fighting Cocks (13-20) trailed 10-2
with the final three outs of the season
looming.
This eight-run deficit was not enough to
scare off a Big Red squad chock full of
character. But in fact the eight-run deficit
was too much to overcome, however, as
the Morristown East High Hurricanes
(9-16-1) took a 10-8 decision to advance
into the double elimination portion of the
Inter Mountain Athletic Conference
tournament.
“It was just too little, too late,” remarked
Cocke County third-year head coach
Casey Taylor. “But tip your cap to
Morristown East; they did the things they
had to do to win tonight.”
And more specifically those tipped caps
should be in the direction of the
Hurricanes’ Kent Basile.
Before Cocke County made their noise in
the top of the seventh, it was Basile
making the noise with a career night.
Basile drove in seven runs highlighted by
two home runs, a three-run shot in the
first and a two-run homer in the sixth, to
go along with a two-run double in the fifth.
“He (Basile) just lit us up tonight,” said
Taylor. “He’s got a bright future ahead of
him.”
And looking at the future, Basile may
make a push for the Conference Player of
the Year award. However, in the present,
one of Cocke County’s own was doing
his best to make his own push for that
prestigious Player of the Year honor.
Although Depew did not have his best
stuff on the mound in the start for Cocke
County, the 6-2 senior earned some
respect in the batters box. After Depew
slammed a Derek Marshall pitch over the
left field fence and in the vicinity of the
Jefferson County softball complex in the
first inning for a two-run home run,
Depew’s IMAC leading 13th of the
season, in the top of the first Depew did
not receive another pitch to hit in the
remainder of the game. The Big Red
Player of the Year candidate was
intentionally walked three consecutive
times, including with the bases loaded in
the seventh inning, in a crafty, yet
unfamiliar move by wily Morristown East
head coach Carliss Altzier.
Altzier did the same in intentionally
walking Jefferson County standout and
University of Tennessee signee Drew
Bowlin in the seventh inning in a
match-up between the Hurricanes and
Patriots last week.
“I was surprised four weeks ago when it
didn’t happen earlier,” said Taylor of
Depew’s three intentional passes.
“Jack’s had a monster year and it’s just
surprising it didn’t happen more often.”
“From a coaching perspective that’s a
great strategy. It takes the bat out of his
hands and let’s someone else try and
beat you and Jack’s shown he can beat
teams this year.”
“I definitely think he [Depew] is the best
player in our conference, and when every
team sizes each other up and looks for
their best player, its easy to see that Jack
is our best player,” said Taylor, noting
Depew’s stature for only a 17-year-old.
But even with Depew’s outing on the
mound, that saw the senior surrender 10
runs, five of which were earned, on 11
hits in 113 pitches, there wasn’t much
thought of going elsewhere in a do-or-die
game for the Fighting Cocks.
“Although I had a couple of late nights on
my part debating on who to throw, Jack
was the guy that got us here and we were
going to put him out there,” said Taylor.
“There wasn’t a lot of thought to it, Jack’s
our guy.”
And besides the two mistakes to Basile,
Depew was in relative command,
allowing—yet stranding base runners.
After surrendering the first inning blast to
Basile, Depew threw three scoreless
innings before his defense failed him.
With one out and one on in the fifth, Josh
Greene hit a routine ball to third that
appeared to be an easy double play for
the Big Red, however a throwing error
squandered that opportunity, extending
the inning which culminated in the
two-run double by Basile. Basile later
came in to score on Tyler Dalton’s
two-out single to extend the East lead to
7-3.
In the sixth, Depew was a strike away
from getting out of the inning with only
one run allowed, but a walk issued to
Greene set the table for Basile’s second
home run of the game.
But with an eight-run hole to dig out of the
Big Red attempted to do so in a
courageous manner.
T.J. Knight began things with a lead off
single, and later scored score as a result
of a wild pitch and throwing error while
Austin Graham followed two batters later
by drawing a walk. Two consecutive
singles by Nick Glenn and Lucas Graham
loaded the bases for Depew, who picked
up an RBI as a result of an intentional
walk, which drew the ire of an abundant
Cocke County faithful in attendance.
Two batters later, Big Red senior Jake
Wylie flirted with etching his name into
Cocke County baseball lore. Wylie,
sporting a fresh new mohawk hair cut,
sent the first pitch from Marshall towering
over the left field fence but just several
feet foul. The second pitch of the at bat
from Marshall was again a towering drive
over the left field fence but inches foul.
With the Big Red fans in a fury with two
potential home runs that would have
brought Cocke County to within two runs,
Wylie then beat out a slow chopper back
to the mound which scored Glenn,
trimming the deficit to 10-5.
Fellow Cocke County senior Logan Lloyd
followed Wylie with a two-run single back
up the box, bringing the Big Red to within
three, before the rally fell short.
But even so, the hopes are that the Big
Red can expand and build off of this
productive season.
“I think we did a lot of things this year to
prove some people wrong,” said Taylor.
“But we hope we can get some more
numbers out [next year]. When you have
14 guys in your program you can very
easily fold the program in general.”
“We have a lot of freshman and
something I just told the guys [in the
post-game team meeting], is to look at
Logan [Lloyd] and Jake [Wylie]. These
guys didn’t play very much as
sophomores [during the 2003 season]
but they eventually got their chance and
the same thing can happen to them.”
Depew fell to 2-6 in taking the season
ending loss for Cocke County. Depew
surrendered 10 runs, five earned, on 11
hits, while walking three and striking out
one.
Marshall improved to 4-3 for the
Hurricanes pitching a complete game,
giving up seven runs, six earned, on 10
hits, while walking four and striking out
four.
In other IMAC action on Friday, Jefferson
County played long-ball, as the Patriots
belted four home runs in a 13-3 win over
Cherokee.
IMAC tournament action continues on
Monday with winner’s bracket and loser’s
bracket action. The loser’s bracket
semifinal game begins at 5 p.m. between
the Greeneville/Morristown East and
Morristown West/Jefferson County losers.
At 7:30 p.m. the winners of those two
contests face-off in the winners bracket
final.
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Greeneville saved its best pitchers for Jeff County Friday. Venerable and Murner should be the starters but only Greenway knows? Also Venerable and Murner are two of the best outfielders/short stops combinations in the IMAC. But the best outfielder in the IMAC is Kent Basile from Morristown East. Basile made some incredible plays in center last night against us. The last play of the game was the best catch I have ever seen by anyone anywhere. He has speed , great glove, strong arm and is a big hitter for a sophmore. He also hit a line drive 375 off the center field fence for the go ahead run. The Scouts need to take a look at all three of these guys.
Agree with you on that one. Basile may be the best center fielder in high school and only a sophomore? Does he play football? Great speed for a big guy. That catch by Basile at the end of the game was incredible.
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Greeneville and Jeff County will duke it out for the best of the IMAC with Greeneville prevailing because of excellent coaching. Morristown East should contest Cherokee for the bottom of the barrel. Morristown East with their interim coach may prevail as the catfish at the bottom of the IMAC pound. I doubt if they will win a game this year. I take that back maybe they can beat up on Cherokee a few times?
Morristown West with their young coach and team will be be the sleeper this year. They could rise to the top? He has the baseball knowledge to pull more than a few games out of the hat
We shall see in the next few weeks. Anyway what do you think?
Saw Greeneville play Morristown East tonight and have to agree Greeneville will be hard to beat. Have not seen Jeff but hear they are loaded too.. East had some strong players to.
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Greenback has an awesome 8th grader on the middle school team that they should bring up to varsity.....Jake Rhynes.....One of the best up and coming infielders and hitters in 8th grade.
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Yep I dont get that either Cory Shaw and Kent Basile should easily make the all region team and they didnt even get mentioned in the district. If the sportswriters vote instead of the coaches hopefully they will set things right. They both blasted the ball and played great defense. Sure would like to hear how that happned?
What is the stroy you mention within itself? I be t ythey batted at least 400-500 in the tournament and had a bunch of homeruns? Go figure.