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  1. P4P rankings?

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    I guess you are counting the time sutherland got pinned by Bullard when Bullard was up 13 points at the Cleveland duals? Or last year when Bullard pinned Sutherland in less than a minute at the Cleveland duals?

     

    I don't get into the whos the best because its all hypothetical and everyone has their biased opinions. You are correct in the above statements but .. when they wrestled at the Cleveland duals it was Sutherlands first week back on the mat from the football playoffs and a concusion. He had not even practiced live 1 time while Bullard had been wrestling non stop. The year prior at the Cleveland duals Sutherland got in on a deep double but Bullard did a funk roll and they ended up in a funky scramble with which Bullard caught him in some weird reverse Peterson with the head.  If you want to go back even more, Bullard beat him at McCallie the year before 7-4 with Sutherland basically wrestling with one arm the entire match due to a shoulder injury. . Sutherland physically dominated him and had him on his back the entire first period but Bullard scrambled out of multiple takedowns as they are so good at doing. If you want to go back even further they wrestled multiple times growing up and Sutherland won everyone in youth and middle school. This years match at the sportswear takedown Sutherland was winning most of the match , they ended up tied on their feet and the ref stopped a takedown on a stalemate call that was the quickest stalemate call in the history of the world. Then Bullard shot a low single which resulted in another scramble but this time the ref let it go for about 25 seconds and Bullard got the takedown and win at the end. All that's part of wrestling, if you walk out there you have to be able to lay it on the line and take the losses with the wins.         

  4. Uninteresting Year

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    Salter is correct. Track can be an incredibly useful tool but it has to be set up correctly to begin with. Its only as good as the date entered into it. I was looking at our recent match, Baylor Vs Father Ryan and about a third of the matches didn't even have the right kids listed. This same information was  taken and put in the newspaper and school website. The table workers should check the names when the wrestlers check into the head table. Data entry is the key. 

  5. Baylor vs Father Ryan match ups

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    Cole Holloway has been through quite the interesting wrestling career at this point... he was the DII 103 state champ in 2011.

     

    From what is shown in trackwrestling his only matches were this past weekend where he went 5-1 (not sure how he got 6 varsity matches so assuming something is mislabeled).

     

    We actually wrestled 8 times Garrett. It was a 2 day dual tournament . His very first match since his sophomore year was against the #1 guy in Alabama and it came down to the wire. He wasn't in wrestling shape yet so that was a tough one to start with.

  6. Baylor vs Father Ryan match ups

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    Can someone with knowledge of this match pls tell an old timer when and where the rasslin will be...

     

    The Wesley kid... Is this Susie Q 's offspring?

     

    I assume that sir ghouse will write a 5 page reply on the location and time and I kinda look forward to it..

     

    Go Irish

    Bcb iii

    This match would be a good one to come out of retirement for Tommy. You've been away long enough. There are still a couple of olphers wrestling! Another year and you will be too old to see any of them.

  10. Other weekend tournaments

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    Baylor placed 3rd at the Takedown Sportswear tournament at Archer. Archer won it of course and Thompson Alabama was second by less than a point. Baylor was without a 152 or 182 and also without starters Jack Reynolds, Caleb Canada and Mason Reniche. Michael Murphy pinned Alabama 6a state champ Pyke from Thompson the finals and Ryan Parker won in dominating fashion in the finals as well. I can't remember if Parker pinned or not. Sutherland and Seagraves lost to the Bullard brothers Nhsca 2x national champs and super 32 champ and placer 4-2 and 4-0 respectively. Schmissrateur placed 4th in a very tough 220 lb weight class.

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  12. Combined rankings

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    Currently Archer leads the KC Stampede, Baylor is tied with Thompson AL for 16th and Collins Hill is 30th.

     

    Powell was runner-up in his pool Friday advancing to the Gold Bracket (Top 16).

    Sutherland won his pool advancing to the Gold Bracket (Top 16).

    Seagraves won his pool advancing to the Gold Bracket (Top 16).

    Parker won his pool advancing to the Gold Bracket (Top 16).

    Schmissrauter won his pool advancing to the Gold Bracket (Top 16).

    Reiniche won his pool advancing to the Gold Bracket (Top 16).

    It's been a brutal 2nd day. We are all banged up or sick it seems. We've squeaked out a few and lost a few we shouldn't have. Some of the weight classes are brutal. Parker just won in overtime to advance to the finals. The tournament was a complete fiasco the first day but has ran much better today.

  14. Combined rankings

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    Mike,

     

    Enjoy the tournament in KC... it is a great one but is an absolute grind for the kids. There will definitely be a lot of very good wrestlers there this year. I love attending and look forward to CBHS heading back in the next few years. Hopefully you guys do well.

     

    Back on the rankings topic... still a lot of kids in the wrong weights and matches that were just clearly missed when putting the rankings together. If you are going to do these it is going to take a lot of time... particularly if you are going to do both divisions together... that just amplifies the work. Good luck... the time commitment involved is why I no longer publish my DII rankings.

    Thx, Garrett and Rob. I was excited to see how our team stacked up but I just found out we will be without Murphy and Reynolds this tournament. Without those two and no 182 lber it will be difficult from a team perspective. What was the highest you guys placed Garrett?

  15. Combined rankings

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     Youthcoach, Where did Powell beat Taylor at? Didnt Taylor beat him at the Cleveland duals? 

    Also, is your son healthy now? I see he just started wrestling. 

    Powell beat Ezra at Sonoraville. Yes, Blake is healthy , he just has to get into wrestling shape and knock some rust off. We are going to the Kansas City Stampede this weekend so he better get ready quickly, lol. 

  16. Combined rankings

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    Was the pin a fluke or is Powell the real deal this year? Seems like he has turned some heads early on. Saw where he beat a returning state champ, but lost a couple in Cleveland.

     

    Tough question to answer as Powell wrestled for me for many years as a kid and Ezra is a friend of ours. Powell can wrestle and has the potential to beat anybody he faces at any given time. That being said he is kind of funky, limber and sometimes gets into awkward positions. Sometimes this enables him to score some points where others might not but it also leaves him open to get caught at times. The match with Ezra earlier in the year was tied 4-4 in the third, Powell chose bottom, Ezra locked up a  cradle, Powell slipped an arm out and reversed him and got the pin.Both wrestlers looked very solid against Father Ryan and wrestled error free. In the rematch with Powell and Taylor , Ezra wrestled a very physical ,solid match and avoided any crazy positions. If I remember correctly I think he started off with a big throw and got 5 right off the bat but my may matches could be running together.  Even though there have been some lop-sided scores between the three of them I think they are all good enough to beat the other, just depends on who wrestles better that match.    

  17. Combined rankings

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    And I also say YOUTHCOACH state Powell beat Ezra Taylor yet you have Powell ranked 2 behind Taylor?

     I made an error there. Powell did Pin Ezra in the first tournament of the year in Georgia but Ezra avenged the loss this weekend at the Cleveland duals with a major. 

  18. Combined rankings

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    UPDATE 12/17:

     

    After a crazy weekend, these are my opinions with substantial evidence to support who is the top wrestlers in the state. Remember, this is largely based off my opinions and as the season continues it will continue to gain support and become more clear who the top dog is in each weigh. Please cut me some slack as this is a hard time because of major changes in weight and kids still adjusting to weigh classes

     

    Team Rankings:

    1. Baylor

    2. Cleveland

    3. Father Ryan

    4. Bradley

    5. McCallie

    6. Wilson Central

     

    Before you go trying to rip my head off for this one. I do realize that on 8th criteria, Father Ryan beat Cleveland. However, i believe with their full line ups that Cleveland would be able to edge out the win. "Cashville135" was trying to make an argument that Garstin was a major loss to the FRHS team but not nearly as much of a loss as Kennedy and Debian. I believe that by January this is how it will play out.

     

    This week many rankings became clear but i think the ranking that became the most evident was this one:

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    1. WesternWrestler

     

    106:

    1. Christian Simpson - (Father Ryan)

    2. T.J. Hicks - (Bradley)

    3. Trent Nelson - (TN High)

    4. Sean Sesnan - (Lebanon)

    5. Tucker Gill - (Notre Dame)

     

    113:

    1. Gabriel Elkin - (MBA)

    2. Torribio Novarro - (Bradley)

    3. Jack Shrader - (Franklin)

    4. Raymond Eason - (Father Ryan)

    5. Cody Mathews - (Cleveland)

    This week: Gabriel Elkin wrestled 113 at Tullahoma and defeated Torribio Novarro 5-1, Raymond Eason defeated Cody Mathews 15-7

     

    120:

    1. Michael Elkin - (MBA)

    2. Luke Mullin - (Notre Dame)

    3. Nick Crawford - (Heritage)

    4. Justin Becci - (Brentwood Academy)

    5. Ryan McElhaney - (Bradley)

    This Week: Chalifoux is wrestling 126 for now and got upset by Colton Landers, Michael Elkin moving up due to having strong performances so far.

     

    126:

    1. James Westbrooks - (McCallie)

    2. Knox Fuller - (Bradley)

    3. Colton Landers - (Cleveland)

    4. Trey Chalifoux - (Father Ryan)

    5. Deven Cyree - (Tullahoma)

     

    132:

    1. Chris Debian - (Cleveland)

    2. Kirby Simpson - (Father Ryan)

    3. Lane Dickeson - (Wilson Central)

    4. Tanner Tidswell - (Christian Brothers)

    5. Sam Bellett - (MBA)

    This Week: Kirby Simpson defeated Lane Dickeson

     

    138:

    1. Eli King - (Father Ryan)

    2. Ethan Dendy - (McCallie)

    3. Michael Murphy - (Baylor)

    4. BamBam Feuerbacher - (Blackman)

    5. Chris Rowland - (Ravenwood)

    This week: Eli King defeated Michael Murphy

     

    145:

    1. Ezra Taylor - (Cleveland)

    2. Chris Wesnofske - (Father Ryan)

    3. Tommy Bracket - (Christian Brothers)

    4. Blake Solarek - (MBA)

    5. Packy Mullin - (Notre Dame)

    This week: Ezra Taylor with a big W over Wesnofske

     

    152:

    1. Luke Hamilton - (Brentwood)

    2. Mike Binns - (Wilson Central)

    3. Nick Naughton - (Father Ryan)

    4. Mathew Sells - (Blackman)

    5. Will Patton - (McCallie)

    This week: Luke Hamilton suffered a loss to Aaron Oliver however Luke was wrestling up and i believe is the man to beat at 152

     

    160:

    1. Tyler Garrison - (Blackman)

    2. Tucker Russo - (Soddy Daisy)

    3. Palmer Bagley - (Dobyns Bennett)

    4. Marcello Morrice - (Father Ryan)

    5. Aaron Oliver - (Cleveland)

    This week: Jonathan Martin defeated Marcello Morrice, this is a stacked weight and i don't believe a 1-0 victory changes this weight class much. Very honorable mention to Jonathan Martin but i do not see this happening again and i see Marcello winning a D2 state title

     

    170:

    1. Sean Kennedy - (Riverdale)

    2. Blake Sutherland - (Baylor)

    3. Austin Hammonds - (Cookeville)

    4. Dallas Broughton - (Christian Brothers)

    5. Zach Linton - (Wilson Central)

     

    182:

    1. Chad Soloman - (Maryville)

    2. Cayman Seagraves - (Baylor)

    3. Kaleb Rippy - (Beech)

    4. Alex Omessi - (Ravenwood

    5. Tyler Dean - (Dobyns Bennett)

     

    195:

    1. Ryan Parker - (Baylor)

    2. Kiel Russell - (Clarksville)

    3. Hunter Bagley - (Science Hill)

    4. Clay Strawn - (Maryville)

    5. Trel Phillips - (McCallie)

     

    220:

    1. Jon Schmissrauter - (Baylor)

    2. Ben Stacey - (Father Ryan)

    3. Jon Gaither - (Cleveland)

    4. Josh Filbey - (Franklin)

    5. John Kramer - (Wilson Central)

    This Week: Stacey beat Gaither, Baylor beat Stacey, Gaither beat Baylor, Gaither beat Kramer

    220 is a mess, it is a total shot in the dark and all these guys are neck in neck. Anyone could be the top guy as well as the #5 guy. Only time will tell who will stand on the top!

     

    HWT:

    1. Nick Boykin - (Riverdale)

    2. Koran Kennedy - (Cleveland)

    3. John Kelly - (MBA)

    4. Devol Whitfield - (Beech)

    5. Jonathon Ruth - (Dobyns Bennett)

     

    Please inform me if there are any other corrections that need to be made. I believe i got most of them. After this next weekend and then heading into the holidays we will have more clear rankings. Especially after the holidays when wrestlers will receive the 2 pound allowance. A few big tests this weekend with the Bradley tournament, McCallie Invitational, and the Beech Invitational. 

    Not  a bad start. I will add a few results I know for sure.

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    113- Trevor Milling ( Baylor) has defeated Cody Mathews ( Cleveland) multiple times this year rather comfortably. 

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    120- Trey Chalifoux ( Father Ryan) wrestled 120 at the Cleveland duals.he wrestled 126 the night before vs Cleveland. Jack Reynolds (Baylor) Defeated Mcelhaney (bradley) in their dual last week by 7pts .

     

    145- Caleb Powell ( Baylor) has defeated Ezra Taylor (cleveland) and Wesnofske ( Father Ryan ) this year. By pin and major if I remember correctly.  

     

    152- Caleb Canada ( Baylor) defeated Nich Naughton ( Father Ryan)  

     

    160- Sutherland is at 160 not 170. He wrestled up at 170 in his first match of the season vs Bradley County last week and against Martin from Cleveland this weekend. He defeated Maurice ( Father Ryan ) at 160 this weekend.  Russo ( Soddy) wrestled 152 at the Cleveland duals.

     

    170- Seagraves (Baylor)  is at 170 not 182. He wrestled up at 182 in a  couple of matches to help fill a void. 

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