CPA4Ever

Macon County has had a very impressive year. I remember last year Sycamore was overlooked a bit in the tourney, so I wouldn't overlook 9AA at all this year.

Yeh, they "brought" (try spellcheck) it - it cost $10,000 per spot to have someone as a finalist. That was nothing compared to the $50k we had to pay the refs for the EL game, and the $2 million a year we have to pay our coach. But whatever it takes.

A well written and accurate post, but idealistic. As long as pro players at 19 can make 10 mil a year, and HS kids can get a guarantee of a $20K per year scholorship, things wont's get better. Suggest you sit back and enjoy John Lennon's "Imagine" - a great song about how the world should be, then the real world shot him.

So does that mean if you get on here and make one false uninformed statement (a lie), that "liers lie and cheaters cheat"?

Before you start assuming you know what the Lord has to do, and calling good people Jim Jones, and removing specks from other's eyes, I suggest you consider the log that is in yours.

Just a quick reply. I went to the Smith Co./Upperman football game this year. For a "small rural public", they had an beautiful large school building and campus, a great gym, and a better football field than most privates, including CPA. Not a whole lot different at Smith Co..

First, there's been more crying AFTER the multiplier by publics than by privates. The only cryin' I have done about the multiplier is that after they did it to make things "fair", the private haters still aren't satisfied. Second, didn't know the publics didn't want to schedule us. We had 6 games this year against publics outside of our district. Maybe they want to get better by playing good teams. And lastly, it has been stated very well and many times on these boards, but here it is again: Private schools are a business. They have no guaranteed customers (students) like public schools where kids are mandated to attend. As a business, they have to attract students to stay in business and they have to offer attractive programs, facilities, and staffs to do that. If they don't, they go out of business. A business that is trying to attract paying customers can still be Christian based, such as, Chick-Fil-A for example. Business and Christianity is not mutually exclusive.

You sound like a liberal Democrat, blaming the system for exploiting people when in fact we live in a free country where these kids and parents have a right to make decisions in their life, whether you agree with it or not. These kids are not being drugged, tied up, and held in prison at these schools. That is real exploitation. You may not like the system, but who are you to dictate to a family what they should or should not do with their children? Don't participate in the perceived exploitation with your family, but it is none of your business what other families and their kids want to do.

We can agree to disagree, but how can you dispute that any player who signs with a top college program (Duke, Ky., Kansas, etc.) does so fully aware they may not play as soon, as much, or score as much as they would going to a lesser team or mid-major? And the coach and the perception of how he can help the athlete is a factor in kids and parents choosing a school. May not be a correct perception, but it is a perception, otherwise, why do players jump ship at schools when coaches leave? The question on this thread is not does the coach help a good athlete get a scholorship, but does the kid and parents think it will help.

I do not know all the various motivations that come into play for the players and their parents that end up at CPA - no one does, although some posters think they do. As a former athlete and parent/grandparent of athletes, I do know that all athletes desire to be part of a talented, winning team that has a chance to compete for high rankings and championships, and a desire to play with the best teammates they can. Most players would rather play a smaller role with great teammates than be a star on a lesser team. That is true at all levels (case inpoint: Pros:Lebron,Wade, Bosh, college:Kentucky basketball; high school: Alcoa/Maryville). I actually think that is more of a factor than the coach, recruiting, school, etc. although I do think the combination of what CPA offers the kid in that regard combined with what the school offers the parent (solid Christian based private education) attracts the good players.

Could be a great opportunity for people to explain to kids that anytime we put a human on a pedestal we run the risk of disappointment. That's why we must put our minds and trust in the only ONE who never sinned or will disappoint.

Wharton is now starting after missing the first couple of weeks due to football. He is the point guard and averages, I am guessing, about 9 points a game. CPA starters: Lindsey-so. Alsmiller-so. Wharton-so. Bradshaw-sr. Brown-jr.

You are misreading the posts. Please read them again. No one is excusing Pack's action or sugarcoating them. Only one post mentions him coaching again, and is not condoning it. What most of the posts describe is sorrow that a man would do what he did, and sorrow for the obvious permanent damage he has done to himself, his family, and those who care for him, as well as for FRA. What I read is a contemporary version of the story of Jesus caught in the controversy of the woman caught in adultery. Jesus did not ask people to condone her actions - He ask them to consider their own lives which, like ours, are not perfect. He didn't excuse her either, but He did show her love, grace, and mercy, and offered her a chance for redemption. We are called to be like Him.

I never take joy in seeing someone else damage their life, family, and reputation among hundreds he has been a positive influence on, including my son who played for him, and loved him, and my family who cared for him. He made a huge mistake - it was not the first one and will not be his last. Such is the case with all of us in various ways. I will pray for him, his family and his recovery through the redemptive power of God.

Well said; and enough has been said, so this is my last thought. I posted earlier that I do not know the details of the 8th grader messup. I was very clear that even though I don't know, I do know that TSSAA rules can be confusing and IF (I don't know) CPA asked for clarification (there is nothing wrong with that)and was misled by the TSSAA, I see no fault. I do know that until the TSSAA separates private from public, guilt will be always be claimed, sometimes justified and sometimes not.

C'mon, devil, with over 3,000 posts you should come up with something more thought out than this. "the only difference is all the DII schools do it legally" is so far misinformed. There have been hundreds of posts on this subject, so here is a review for you: - CPA is a private school that charges tuition, not a public school that is free. - Because they charge tuition, they have to have a product that motivates families to spend money they don't have to spend. - Cirriculum, mission statement, religious studies, faculty, athletics, fine arts, etc. are all part of the product they must show excellence in to motivate families to spend money they don't have to. CPA has chosen to hire excellent coaches to attract student athletes. Some public schools do the same thing legally. - CPA is not like DII schools because they do not give financial aid to athletes. If they did the athletes would be ineligible. - There is a difference between illegal recruiting and legal attracting. The TSSAA sets those rules. Has this line ever been crossed with CPA? I do not know, but I do know they have the crosshairs on them all the time and if they are doing it illegally, they will be caught. I have no problem with that if it happens if they are doing anything illegal. - If a family wants to send their athlete child to CPA instead of another school, under the current system, they have that right, and there are guidelines as to eligibility. ANY QUESTIONS?

Reasonable post, and I agree in one regard: If there is illegal activities, the truth will eventually win. To be honest, that is my desire as well. That is why I only defend on truth and I rebuke unfounded accusations. People and organizations should not be judged on perception, but truth. If the perceptions are founded in truth, then the accusations are more than slander. I know one thing - when CPA's teams were losing, all this talk didn't exist. I also know, CPA lost a potential state championship in football in 2003-2004 because they self reported a minor violation that no one knew about,and accepted the penalty without complaint. Now that is FACT!

I might add a fact to this discussion: you have participated in 12 threads as a CoachT member and 9 of the 12 (and almost all of your posts) have been about CPA where you have questioned their integrity. That FACT tells everyone you have a personal vendetta (for some reason) against CPA and that is the primary reason you post on CoachT. I think that is sad, but, hey, its a free world.

Sorry, but your reasoning is flawed. The facts have not tarnished CPA. People like you who make assumptions about the facts tarnish CPA. I can claim you did something and tarnish your reputation (that is called slander in our society), but that doesn't mean you did it and it is factual. You continue to make assumptions about the history behind things that have occurred, but you do not know the facts about what has occurred. Again, I do not know all background behind the facts, and neither do you.

Your dislike for CPA is clouding your ability to read and respond reasonably. i never questioned your FACTS; I stated that those facts do not prove any impropriety. Once again, you are looking at facts that may be results of proper actions and making assumptions (not facts) about what transpired that created those results. Look at it this way. If a D student (fact) transferred to CPA and started making A's (fact), using your argument there had to be cheating involved (not fact), because you have a prejudice against CPA. Maybe there was cheating but maybe the grades improved honestly. All I am saying is that your facts do not prove impropriety, and the proof has not been presented. They tell what happened, not why, and you are guessing at the why.

I would have no problem if they made a rule that high schoolers get 4 years of HS eligibility.

You use the phrase "guess it just all worked out" three times while at the same time claiming you know the facts. So you are guessing - you do not know. That is not consistent. What you are doing is looking at results of situations, and making assumptions about the facts that created those results. Its like someone commenting on a friend's divorce and assuming the spouse they didn't like was obviously at fault. You can't look at results and make up the reasons for them. I don't know the facts, but they are coming, so I suggest we all just let things play out before stones are thrown.

Again, I have no facts (as none of us really do yet), but I can see how the above can happen: The Rule and the School - Maybe(?) CPA asked the TSSAA to clarify whether he would be eligible Jan. 1 (as with some transfers) or not at all for the school year. Maybe they felt the rule wasn't clear, or they wanted to be certain. There is nothing wrong with asking the rule makers to clarify a rule. That's better than sitting him for the whole year, and find out later he didn't have to. The Ruler - If they made a mistake, they are human. It shouldn't have happened but if it did they have no choice but to change the ruling, and CPA has no choice but to abide. It is a tough deal for the kid, especially if the family's decision on school choice was partially based on the erroneous ruling. As far as the 6 games he played, the 4 district games outcome wouldn't have changed, and CPA should not be penalized if it was a TSSAA error. It's a bit like you choosing to contact the IRS about a "gray area" deduction, rather than trying to totally comprehend the IRS laws. You assume what they tell you is right, and you proceed accordingly.

I don't have the facts to totally defend anything, but if you do not have the facts to make accusations, you have no right to make this claim. Here is all I heard (admittedly I do not know as fact): - Player doesn't work out academically at one school - Player needs to transfer out of situation due to academics. - Player chooses another school. Free country - his family has a right to choose. - New school submits eligibility paperwork to TSSAA to avoid non-compliance. - TSSAA clears player to play. - Player plays 6 games. - TSSAA throws up red flag. - Player immediately is benched. - TSSAA admits mistake and player doesn't play anymore. Now, IF that is true, where is CPA's fault? If it is not true, share with us the truth and the basis for your condemnation.

Any word on CPA's Bradshaw health? Will he be back playing this week?