This is great stuff! Thanks for the info! I guess it comes down to the ref, and the "eyes of the beholder", whether the takedown on the edge happens or not, or if the "well-coached" wrestler is avoiding a takedown by squirming off of the mat (as opposed to the call of fleeing). When it does come down to the ref, we all know they are trying, and many factors would come to play (long day, distracted, reacting to coaches, level of experience, confidence, being decisive, etc.) . What I hate to see is matches decided by penalty points for these moving/lack of moving violations, and it looks even worse when it is inconsistent mat-to-mat. One match I saw at the D2 duals was basically decided by two stalling points (didn't have a dog in that fight, don't remeber the details). Having said all of this, my hat is off to all of the refs, and as I say, we overlook "bad" calls when they are in our favor.