You guys are both right... lol thanks for the credit os91... and i never said it would happen again next yr catmommy.. but look for a wartburg turnaround in the next three years /popcorneater.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":popcorneater:" border="0" alt="popcorneater.gif" /> its been a great season cant wait till next yr. see ya in November