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  1. I agree. It's time to band together & file the lawsuit! Or form an association that will!

     

    It's an embarrassment to everything that is fair and just! I agree that the coaches, schools, etc. should get involved but it shouldn't take anyone to get involved to do the right thing. The TSSAA ought to be ashamed of themselves. Schools ought to demand that they treat all sports equally or pull out of the TSSAA.

     

    There will NEVER be a justification for it. The TSSAA can try to explain it away all they want but I don't know how they can sleep at night knowing that they are mistreating the majority of high school athletes across the state. Football is their Cash Cow and they don't care about any other sport - it's obvious in their decision making.

     

    I hope that schools band together and file a Title IX lawsuit against them.

  2. What? 6x4=24 just as 8x3=24. Same amount of teams make the state tournament with 6 getting rings as apposed to only 3. It just won't happen to be the same school's with twice as many kids as everyone else in their class...

     

    But then you eliminate 4 teams from each class from "going to state", which defeats the whole participation medal mentality that has taken over high school sports anyway. That is the real reason for having classes in the first place and the absolute reason that Division 2 was formed. "So and so can do this and go to state and I can't. It is just not fair". Wah wah wah

     

    Sad but true.

  3. It's the TSSAA's fault basketball doesn't make money! It's set up horribly! Other surrounding states with more classes make way more money! Alabama made 2 million dollars from basketball last year with half our population (with 6 classes). Now, some genius tell me we're more of a football state than them...lol

     

    The bottom line is basketball does not make money. Adding a 4th class would only raise expenses. They are not going to lose money. Sad but true.

     

    We have 9 classes in football next year because playoff gates make A LOT of money.

  4. Coaches are told by TSSAA executives that they" have no control over decisions" and that we should voice our opinions to the representatives in our area because they are the ones that vote. If that is true then why do the executives give their recommendation right before the vote takes place? To remind the board how they want them to vote and to influence the vote. With the current system coaches are supposed to trust the representative from their area to go and vote for what the majority wants. There are some board members that never met with coaches before the vote to allow them to voice opinions...How is that representing coaches? There is one board member "Ricky Catlett" that apparently voted opposite of what his area wanted according to several coaches that I spoke to that he represents. Jody Wright from Fulton is a coach and on the board. How is that not a major conflict of interest??? He is gonna vote the way that has the best outcome for his situation...Who wouldn't??? Our Executive Director that claims that "he has no control" stated yesterday that " We always feel like we have to keep our football numbers as far as enrollment figures in schools going against each other close together" Who is we??? and what about the other student athletes around the state?? All athletes should be treated with fairness and with our current system TSSAA has way too much power. The hard working coaches that really care about our athletes and are not blinded by $$$$ have no voice!

    Couldn't agree more!

  5. No need talking about what should have happened. We all know that. We must go after the board members and the joke of an association we have (TSSAA)! Here are the BOC members that opposed the majority and didn't have enough backbone to stand up to the TSSAA office recommendation! Here were the votes for 3 classes:
    Mike Roller-Lipscomb
    Jody Wright- Fulton
    Mike Reed- Morristown
    Greg McCullough- Memphis
    Ricky Catlett- Chester Co.
    David Meske- Webb
    Tommy Layne- Sequatchie           

  6. No need talking about what should have happened. We all know that. We must go after the board members and the joke of an association we have (TSSAA)! Here are the BOC members that opposed the majority and didn't have enough backbone to stand up to the TSSAA office recommendation! Here were the votes for 3 classes:

    Mike Roller-Lipscomb

    Jody Wright- Fulton

    Mike Reed- Morristown

    Greg McCullough- Memphis

    Ricky Catlett- Chester Co.

    David Meske- Webb

    Tommy Layne- Sequatchie

  7. Why not do 6 classes which could make smaller districts, thus less travel. Games could even be played on Friday if necessary with fewer district games. Then only have two teams come out of the district. 4 teams from each class make the state tournament so you still have 24 teams there. If the TSSAA isn't competent enough to make more classes work, then changes need to be made with them....

  8. I'm hearing the same thing as far as having board support but that the TSSAA is going to try and 'buffalo' the board into keeping things the same.....

     

    TSSAA would not lose money, they would possibly just not make as much. As a governing body TSSAA should be working for us but it seems like $$$ is by far most important. Money has turned what should be our governing body into a corrupt organization that has the student athlete taking a back seat to $$$$! I really feel like when the vote happens in July that TSSAA will have enough influence on the Board to keep it the same. I hope I am wrong because I really feel like change is needed.

  9. If football student athletes deserve 6 classes, then basketball deserves 6 period! It's about student athletes having equal opportunity. If travel is a problem then have smaller districts, thus less travel dates like AL does. If this 'waters down' basketball, then the 6A football championship must really be a joke?

  10. Seems FAIR for a change...

     

    This is a long post, but it's a guess where everyone would fall in six classes, using the latest numbers (which will come out again this fall). I added four at the top which had teams in Class A, but I didn't know their enrollments. I took out Jackson Central Merry which closed, and two charters in Chattanooga that didn't have teams that I know of. With about 53 in each class, you'd have 8 regions in each class. Again these numbers will change, some by a lot, this fall, plus you probably have even more teams starting especially in the smaller charters. * just means no football.

    Class 1A:

    GRAD Academy (no enrollment)

    MEMPHIS CITY UNIVERSITY SCHOOL (no enrollment)

    MEMPHIS MIDDLE COLLEGE (no enrollment)

    NATCHEZ TRACE (no enrollment)

    * Clinch High School 27

    * Carroll Academy 49

    * KIPP: Nashville Collegiate School 68

    * Tennessee School for the Deaf 79

    * Richard Hardy Memorial School 88

    * Big Sandy High School 105

    * Hampshire High School 121

    * Clarksburg High School 128

    * Bradford High School 135

    * Washburn High School 158

    Gleason High School Gleason 161

    Sunbright High School Sunbright 173

    W.E.B. Dubois High School Memphis 180

    Coalfield High School Coalfield 182

    * Memphis School of Excellence 184

    Oakdale High School Oakdale 188

    Cloudland High School Roan Mountain 193

    Moore Co. High School Lynchburg 197

    Red Boiling Springs High School Red Boiling Springs 200

    Lookout Valley High School Chattanooga 204

    Greenback High School Greenback 209

    Hollow Rock-Bruceton Central High School Bruceton 209

    Greenfield High School Greenfield 210

    * Santa Fe High School 212

    Huntland High School Huntland 214

    Copper Basin High School Copperhill 227

    * Merrol Hyde Magnet School 239

    * Memphis Academy of Science & Engineering 241

    Lake Co. High School Tiptonville 243

    * Van Buren Co. High School 244

    South Pittsburg High School South Pittsburg 245

    South Fulton High School South Fulton 245

    Pickett Co. High School Byrdstown 248

    George Washington Carver High School Memphis 255

    * Culleoka High School 260

    Humboldt High School Humboldt 263

    Clay Co. High School Celina 264

    * University School-Johnson City 267

    Collinwood High School Collinwood 278

    Memphis Northside High School Memphis 282

    Hancock Co. High School Sneedville 286

    Midway High School Kingston 289

    Unaka High School Elizabethton 290

    Cornersville High School Cornersville 293

    West Carroll High School Atwood 295

    * Clarkrange High School 299

    Sale Creek School Sale Creek 306

    McEwen High School Mcewen 308

    Gordonsville High School Gordonsville 318

    Fayetteville High School Fayetteville 318

    Class 2A

    Wayne Co. High School Waynesboro 319

    * Soulsville Charter School 325

    Monterey High School Monterey 339

    Harriman High School Harriman 347

    Middleton High School Middleton 350

    Richland High School Lynnville 351

    Huntingdon High School Huntingdon 354

    Jo Byrns High School Cedar Hill 355

    Perry Co. High School Linden 363

    Mt. Pleasant High School Mt. Pleasant 365

    Whitwell High School Whitwell 371

    Dresden High School Dresden 375

    Trousdale Co. High School Hartsville 380

    KIPP Memphis Collegiate School Memphis 381

    Jellico High School Jellico 384

    Oneida High School Oneida 393

    Peabody High School Trenton 395

    Union City High School Union City 397

    Summertown Summertown 398

    Houston Co. High School Erin 399

    Summertown High School 398

    B. T. Washington High School Memphis 399

    Memphis Academy of Health Sciences Memphis 402

    Oliver Springs High School Oliver Springs 402

    Hampton High School Hampton 405

    Cosby High School Cosby 405

    Oakhaven High School Memphis 408

    McKenzie High School Mckenzie 410

    Watertown High School Watertown 411

    Westwood High School Memphis 413

    Eagleville High School Eagleville 414

    Halls High School Halls 416

    Wartburg Central High School Wartburg 416

    North Greene High School Greeneville 418

    * Chatt. School for the Arts & Sciences 417

    East Robertson High School Cross Plains 423

    Decatur Co. Riverside High School Decaturville 434

    Manassas High School Memphis 450

    Jackson Co. High School Gainesboro 454

    Tellico Plains High School Tellico Plains 455

    Gibson Co. High School Dyer 458

    Rockwood High School Rockwood 459

    Loretto High School Loretto 470

    Community High School Unionville 485

    Scotts Hill High School Reagan 490

    South Greene High School Greeneville 497

    * Madison Academic Magnet High School 502

    Hillcrest High School Memphis 505

    Westmoreland High School Westmoreland 509

    Meigs Co. High School Decatur 516

    Marion Co. High School Jasper 518

    Forrest High School Chapel Hill 522

    Sullivan North High School Kingsport 531

    Cascade High School Wartrace 535

    Class 3A

    Adamsville High School Adamsville 541

    Hickman Co. High School Centerville 542

    Frederick Douglass High School Memphis 553

    Waverly Central High School Waverly 553

    * Power Center Academy High School 549

    * L&N STEM Academy 553

    Mitchell High School Memphis 554

    Lewis Co. High School Hohenwald 555

    Gatlinburg-Pittman High School Gatlinburg 562

    Austin-East High School Knoxville 564

    Cumberland Gap High School Cumberland Gap 566

    Alcoa High School Alcoa 566

    Trezevant High School Memphis 568

    Happy Valley High School Elizabethton 568

    Bledsoe Co. High School Pikeville 568

    Polk Co. High School Benton 570

    Martin Luther King, Jr. Preparatory High School Memphis 577

    Fairley High School Memphis 578

    Tyner Academy Chattanooga 587

    Sweetwater High School Sweetwater 591

    Brainerd High School Chattanooga 593

    Harpeth High School Kingston Springs 595

    Camden Central High School Camden 597

    Smith Co. High School Carthage 599

    Alvin C. York Institute Jamestown 612

    Westview High School Martin 613

    Milan High School Milan 616

    Memphis East High School Memphis 617

    Cannon Co. High School Woodbury 618

    East Hickman High School Lyles 621

    Cheatham Co. Central High School Ashland City 627

    The Howard School Chattanooga 643

    Chuckey-Doak High School Afton 643

    Stewart Co. High School Dover 651

    White House Heritage High School White House 652

    Stratford High School Nashville 660

    Fairview High School Fairview 660

    West Greene High School Mosheim 671

    Johnson Co. High School Mountain City 675

    Sequatchie Co. High School Dunlap 691

    Pigeon Forge High School Pigeon Forge 697

    Signal Mountain High School Signal Mountain 699

    McMinn Central High School Englewood 700

    East Nashville Magnet School Nashville 705

    Grundy Co. High School Coalmont 708

    Hamilton High School Memphis 710

    South Gibson Co. High School Medina 711

    Raleigh Egypt High School Memphis 725

    Kingston High School Kingston 735

    Loudon High School Loudon 736

    Upperman High School Baxter 740

    Sycamore High School Pleasant View 745

    Whites Creek High School Whites Creek 751

    McNairy Central High School Selmer 751

    Class 4A

    Melrose High School Memphis 752

    Jackson South Side High School Jackson 754

    Red Bank High School Chattanooga 759

    Scott High School Huntsville 779

    Liberty Technology Magnet High School Jackson 779

    Covington High School Covington 781

    Fayette-Ware Comprehensive High School Somerville 782

    Dyersburg High School Dyersburg 787

    Northview Academy Kodak 788

    Unicoi Co. High School Erwin 789

    * Murfreesboro Central Magnet School 791

    Elizabethton High School Elizabethton 792

    Sheffield High School Memphis 793

    Claiborne High School New Tazewell 800

    DeKalb Co. High School Smithville 803

    East Ridge High School Chattanooga 810

    Bolivar Central High School Bolivar 819

    Greenbrier High School Greenbrier 824

    Union Co. High School Maynardville 825

    Crockett Co. High School Alamo 842

    Marshall Co. High School Lewisburg 845

    Pearl Cohn High School Nashville 853

    Fulton High School Knoxville 856

    Chester Co. High School Henderson 861

    Giles Co. High School Pulaski 863

    Haywood High School Brownsville 876

    Hixson High School Hixson 880

    Creek Wood High School Charlotte 881

    White House High School White House 882

    Greeneville High School Greeneville 887

    Livingston Academy Livingston 888

    Carter High School Strawberry Plains 890

    Grainger High School Rutledge 892

    Sullivan South High School Kingsport 899

    Ripley High School Ripley 901

    * Hume-Fogg Academic Magnet 908

    Sullivan East High School Bluff City 913

    * Martin Luther King High School 916

    Chattanooga Central High School Harrison 925

    Macon Co. High School Lafayette 935

    Page High School Franklin 936

    Lexington High School Lexington 941

    Millington Central High School Millington 943

    Obion Co. Central High School Troy 947

    Sullivan Central High School Blountville 961

    Spring Hill High School Columbia 979

    Maplewood Comprehensive High School Nashville 997

    Craigmont High School Memphis 1003

    Jackson North Side High School Jackson 1007

    Sequoyah High School - Madisonville Madisonville 1018

    Montgomery Central High School Cunningham 1039

    East Hamilton High School Ooltewah 1045

    Cumberland Co. High School Crossville 1051

    Tullahoma High School Tullahoma 1053

    Class 5A

    Kirby High School Memphis 1058

    Anderson Co. High School Clinton 1064

    Stone Memorial High School Crossville 1065

    Gibbs High School Corryton 1085

    Knoxville Central High School Knoxville 1088

    Seymour High School Seymour 1093

    Kenwood High School Clarksville 1093

    Volunteer High School Church Hill 1096

    Hillwood High School Nashville 1113

    Kingsbury High School Memphis 1114

    Clinton High School Clinton 1114

    Lawrence Co. High School Lawrenceburg 1123

    Hardin Co. High School Savannah 1129

    Portland High School Portland 1135

    Springfield High School Springfield 1145

    Cherokee High School Rogersville 1160

    Dyer Co. High School Newbern 1168

    Northwest High School Clarksville 1173

    Ridgeway High School Memphis 1187

    Hillsboro High School Nashville 1188

    White Co. High School Sparta 1195

    Karns High School Knoxville 1195

    Wooddale High School Memphis 1196

    Tennessee High School Bristol 1196

    Cocke Co. High School Newport 1201

    South Doyle High School Knoxville 1210

    Lenoir City High School Lenoir City 1226

    Knoxville Halls High School Knoxville 1243

    Shelbyville Central High School Shelbyville 1248

    Soddy-Daisy High School Soddy-daisy 1249

    Overton High School Memphis 1252

    Northeast High School Clarksville 1271

    Beech Senior High School Hendersonville 1275

    Lincoln Co. High School Fayetteville 1282

    West Creek High School Clarksville 1305

    David Crockett High School Jonesborough 1306

    Campbell Co. High School Jacksboro 1320

    Munford High School Munford 1324

    Summit High School Spring Hill 1329

    Powell High School Powell 1334

    West High School Knoxville 1338

    Clarksville High School Clarksville 1338

    Daniel Boone High School Gray 1348

    Henry Co. High School Paris 1349

    Columbia Central High School Columbia 1353

    Independence High School Thompson''s Station 1378

    Brighton High School Brighton 1417

    Morristown-Hamblen High School East Morristown 1418

    Oak Ridge High School Oak Ridge 1419

    Cleveland High School Cleveland 1420

    Glencliff High School Nashville 1433

    Sevier Co. High School Sevierville 1451

    Ooltewah High School Ooltewah 1452

    Class 6A

    Morristown-Hamblen High School West Morristown 1461

    Dickson Co. High School Dickson 1466

    Franklin Co. High School Winchester 1486

    Gallatin High School Gallatin 1495

    Rossview High School Clarksville 1497

    Nolensville High School 1500 (estimated)

    McMinn Co. High School Athens 1504

    Bolton High School Arlington 1505

    Hendersonville High School Hendersonville 1510

    Rhea County High School Evensville 1521

    Station Camp High School Gallatin 1537

    Walker Valley High School Cleveland 1539

    Heritage High School Maryville 1600

    Maryville High School Maryville 1604

    Memphis Central High School Memphis 1631

    Hunters Lane High School Nashville 1640

    Cane Ridge High School Antioch 1660

    Southwind High School Memphis 1674

    Farragut High School Knoxville 1685

    Stewarts Creek High School Smyrna 1691

    Brentwood High School Brentwood 1698

    Centennial High School Franklin 1712

    LaVergne High School Lavergne 1723

    Riverdale High School Murfreesboro 1724

    Coffee Co. Central High School Manchester 1730

    William Blount High School Maryville 1741

    Franklin High School Franklin 1751

    Siegel High School Murfreesboro 1758

    Smyrna High School Smyrna 1774

    Warren Co. High School Mcminnville 1787

    Bradley Central High School Cleveland 1790

    Lebanon High School Lebanon 1807

    Bartlett High School Bartlett 1818

    John Overton High School Nashville 1830

    Wilson Central High School Lebanon 1834

    Whitehaven High School Memphis 1838

    Blackman High School Murfreesboro 1839

    Germantown High School Germantown 1900

    Hardin Valley Academy Knoxville 1903

    Cordova High School Cordova 1911

    Oakland High School Murfreesboro 1933

    Houston High School Germantown 1937

    Bearden High School Knoxville 1938

    Mt. Juliet High School Mt. Juliet 1999

    Antioch High School Antioch 2036

    Ravenwood High School Brentwood 2037

    Arlington High School Arlington 2044

    Dobyns Bennett High School Kingsport 2072

    Science Hill High School Johnson City 2080

    Collierville High School Collierville 2136

    Cookeville High School Cookeville 2201

    Jefferson Co. High School Dandridge 2273

    McGavock High School Nashville 2280

    White Station High School Memphis 2289

  11. Most ridiculous post on here!

     

    Someone mentioned the way Kentucky does it above. As someone that follows both KY & TN girls basketball just as hard as anyone, I would agree that Kentucky has the best system. One state champion for the entire state.

    They do have an All "A" State championship held in the season that gives only Single-A teams a chance to play in that state tourney, but then single-A can also compete in the actual state tourney in March.

    But there are too many state champions in Tennessee for my liking.

  12. I think what 9Aguru is saying is that your team may not be as big or as talented or complete as some of the other teams. Who cares! They can't help that! They play hard and scrappy and inspired and that's they can control and what really matters! Quit being so defensive and take it as a compliment!

  13. 9aGuru says Huntland is over rated team. I say they under achieve. I guess it depends on which color glasses you wear and mine are true blue. As far as the game against Eagleville, an upset could happen but the girls seem to play well when they have too. Unfortunately, someone told them their last two games had no bearing on the district finish. Should not make a difference in effort, but when you are 15 and undisciplined I would say it did.

  14. Why does six not work in Tennessee but does well in other states? So, it wouldn't be worth moving game times up an hour (to get home earlier) in order to give other sports the same opportunity as football? Why did Alabama (who has a far superior basketball format already) decide to even add another 7th classification (across the board) for next year? Like I previously said...schools in our district average 1.5 hours travel and some district teams border the AL state line while region teams border KY lines (diagonally)! Btw- some teams in our district would be 2a teams in AL and others would be 5A teams! Please tell me how the TSSAA could screw things up any more? Please tell me how, other than Bernard randomly picking out of a hat! Not to mention the fact that their financial numbers for the basketball tournament are almost as embarrassing as Donald Trump filing for bankruptcy twice in the casino business!!!!!

  15. First off; our school travels around 1.5 hours plus for 4 out of 6 district games and the other two are close to an hour so I understand travel. Also, we have had to drive over 3 hours for one game in the first rd of region. If that's the issue, then why not do it like football? Play two classes together in the regular season and then split them up into 6 classes for the tournament? Travel stays the same and basketball gets the same amount of rings and opportunity as football. Please now, coaches in schools at the upper end of classifications and football people tell me why this idea is so far fetched???????? Btw- this makes more sense in a tournament sport than even football!

  16. I have coached in AL & TN and I have been at the ahsaa state tournament all week. Great atmosphere!!!!! The biggest issue here is classifications! How anyone can justify giving 6 teams rings in football and 3 in other sports is beyond me. Btw football has less teams than basketball and way more kids per team that get a chance at a state championship. Why are football players more deserving than everyone else, other than the fact that we basketball coaches etc.. just set back and take it! Last time I checked our state wasn't exactly putting out lots of 4 and 5 star football players anyway. That said, I would like to see what would happen if someone proposed only 3 classes in football! Pretty sure they wouldn't stand for it! Alabama is going to 7 classes across the board next year to "make things more fair." I ran the numbers and adjusted for AL only counting 10-12 for classification numbers and found that a some teams in our district would be THREE classes smaller than the majority of the other schools in our district according to Alabama's areas. Absolutely amazing! The BCAT (basketball coaches association of TN) which I know has already proposed 6 classes was all but laughed at! Their best bet for change would be to take all the money they make on great clinics and pay the football association to make a 6 class proposal across the board! Because football is the only sport with enough backbone and influence to get anything done!!!!!

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