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ELA, what do you mean by a "big man" contest? I don't think I've run across that before.

Zack Morris, great kid! Didn't realize he made the all conference team though. Your right he is very much the gamer. Got lost one time in the mountains when he was 10 or 11, by the time they found him 2 days later, he had a small shelter, a fire, and was catching fish to eat. Kid is tough as a pine knot! Don't hold me to it, but I think he's in the big litterbox right now.

Krich, Both Eric and Ray are seniors, I'm not sure of Ray's intentions after high school. With the right coaching and training, both could make a small college lineman. Not just because he's my son, but Eric probably before Ray. Eric has about 10 years experience on the line, and is a good bit faster. But it would take alot of work for either of them. The two names that come to mind are Joe Ohrmsbee and TJ Stapleton. Joe was the quarterback, TJ THE lineman. But both of them ended up at Tusculum, and neither are playing this year. I'm not sure who else it might have been, those two made all the lists that year. Come to think of it, Joe's brother Thomas graduated last year and I believe he was headed to the Marine Corp. Could it have been last year? Thomas also made all the lists for rushing.

That's one of the advantages to a larger school, having more depth to the team. I know the support you guys get is just great. I was really impressed when we were up there last year, all the fans, the boosters, the band.... reminded me of my time in high school. Lots of excitement about the game and the team. You probably don't realize how lucky you are, I know I didn't at the time. Enjoy it, and when the time comes for you to pass on, support the guys that come after you, that's how consistently winning teams are built. See ya....

Had me scared there man, I thought from the way everyone was talking I might have to worry about my little young 'un. Might make a good match up if Eric can hang with the speed. Does Jordy play both ways? That's Eric's problem, trying to play nearly every down wears on the big guys. Eric's lost some weight this year, down to about 315, but he grew about an inch, up to 6'4". So they are pretty even on size. Ray Fox the other DT we have is about (estimating) 6'5" and 290 - 300 also. The rest of the line drops off alot after that, but we have several that hit the weights during Baseball. North Greene just redid the weight room this summer, so the guys have been lifting now for a couple weeks. It was closed all last year and thru the off season because of some problems. So maybe as the season progresses the work will pay off.

Doggone it! Tried a little psychological warfare there, and it didn't work! Warrior, I think you really have your head on straight, got your priorities in order, good man. I look forward to seeing you Friday week. I hope the Huskys acquit themselves as much like gentlemen as you have here. By the way, just how big is Jordy this year?

That's it man, pump those heads up! Boost the egos! Yeah, that's it! Happy Valley can beat anybody! No one can touch them! Do you think it worked?

Why, oh why, didn't someone give me this warning before I met my first wife!? Oh the shame of it all.... after 18 years to find out you've been beered!

Warrior Have no fear I'm sure krich will sing your praises to Vallhalla! Looking forward to putting a face to a name, I'll try to look you up after the game. By the way, what's up with Whaley?

As far as I know the game is at North Greene. Every schedule I have seen, and the coaches all say so. But this is high school football, surprises happen! Seriously, the game is at North Greene. One of the Ormsbys (I never could spell that name!) Thomas has graduated. He set single season, game, and career marks last year. Dustin is also gone. Both of those guys leave big holes. "Tank" Lynch will still be running the ball, as well as, several of the other younger guys. I think the coach is still trying to get the final mix in place at the tailback slot. Dusty Neill will try to fill Dustin's shoes, he's a sophomore and needs some experience. Fortunately, only one lineman was lost to graduation, they are all back bigger, stronger, and faster. But, our curse is still in place. Like Unaka, there is very little depth. Last year at Happy Valley their depth really put a hurt on us. With only 2 big linemen, whenever both were in on defense they could hold their own, but they had to rest sometime, and, well.... it wasn't pretty. It didn't really get out of hand until the 4th quarter, but it was all downhill from there. I hope this year is different in outcome, I was proud of our guys last year and their all out effort. This team is still kind of an unknown to me, alot of guys are playing new positions, and I haven't been able to see them in game conditions. I truly believe that they will make themselve proud this year, I see alot more hustle and effort at practice. So, we'll see.... Hope to see you there, I'll be the guy that yells at his son alot!

King, How did Jellico look? Anyone stand out to you?

The basic premise of this program is make the stay unpleasant so that it is not repeated. One of the biggest problems was that the prisoners were living better in jail than on the outside. The Sheriff took away that opportunity for them. Studies that were done suggested that some prisoners were committing minor offenses during certain times to get to stay in the air conditioned jail, and eat 3 square meals a day. I kind of like this novel approach. Of course, Arizona's climate makes this possible with the very mild winters and dry summers. Anyway, I thought some here would find this interesting. Have a great day!

I've been a Joe Arpaio fan for several years now. When they ran out of room in the jail, he didn't build a new one, he built the tent city. He has been sued by all the groups, and won every time. When the inmates complained about not having cable tv, he removed all tv's. When they complained about the uniforms, he dyed them all pink. To cut costs, all meals are bologna and cheese sandwiches (at least most are). Bottom line, it stinks to be in his jail, and the recitivism rate is the lowest in the country. One way or the other, criminals are doing what they have to to stay away from Joe. That suits me just fine!

Don't go to jail in Arizona. ARIZONA and IRAQ: How hot is it? Point well made: "About 2,000 inmates living in a barbed-wire-surrounded tent encampment at the Maricopa County Jail (Arizona) have been given permission to strip down to their government-issued pink boxer shorts. "On Wednesday, hundreds of men wearing boxers were either curled up on their bunk beds or chatted in the tents, which reached 138 degrees inside the week before. Many were also swathed in wet, pink towels as sweat collected on their chests and dripped down to their pink socks. 'It feels like you are in a furnace,' said James Zanzo't, an inmate who has lived in the tents for 1 1/2 years. 'It's inhumane.' "Joe Arpaio, the tough-guy sheriff who created the tent city and long ago started making his prisoners wear pink, is not sympathetic. He said Wednesday that he told the inmates: 'It's 120 degrees in Iraq and the soldiers are living in tents and they didn't commit any crimes, so shut your mouths.' "

All right Coach! Great to see the attitude, and enthusiasm. Best of luck to you and your boys, have a great season.

Hey Pujo, How about letting me know how things go with Chuckey-Doak Friday. We have them on the 28th, and I'd love to have a heads up.

From what I was told, they were getting it together. I wasn't able to go to the game, but several of the boys from North Greene talked very highly of the potential they showed.

Hey Mickey, What's Jellico got going this year, haven't heard much. :justwrestle:

krichunaka Good to hear from you! Come on down, you are always welcome on the creekbank. I'll definitely be there, my boy's senior year ya know, can't miss a game! It's bad enough I have to miss the scrimmages. I know what you mean about needing a few here and there.... the line really could use some of the help we had last year. Had a senior, Paul Winstead, come out, never having played ball before and turned out to be the best D lineman we had! I'm hoping with school starting Wednesday, some of the other guys will show up, right now there is only 1 Freshman playing! I will definitely look you up, both at North Greene and at your house. See you at the stadium!

Hawk, I apologize if I offended in any way. I really was only trying to empathize. So many of the programs in small schools are in the same boat numbers and support wise. I'm sure your coach does the best he can to encourage, but no one person can do it alone. Everyone has to pitch in and help. No real fan would ever think any program a joke. To do so would belittle the real hard work that each player and coach pours into it. All I can say is, Hawk I hope you soar (oops) over the competition and show all your detractors exactly what you are made of. Remember, the only thing truly important is the effort that you yourself put into the program. Win and losses, well, that's what folks tend to remember, but the true measure of a man is his courage to do what he believes is right. So fight, win, and give it your best effort, you have a lot of us out here cheering for you!

New QB is Rusty Neil, he's a sophomore, and was the back-up last year. Didn't get a whole lot of playing time, so he's playing catch-up. I'm glad the season is coming along for you, and look forward to seeing you on the 22nd. It'll be a real test for North Greene, hopefully both teams will come through injury free and learning a good deal. See you then!

ELA, There are several small schools in that shape. They say that success breeds success, well, in a very real way it is true. Those athletes that may want to concentrate on other sports can be drawn to a winning team. Afterall, don't we all want to be part of a winning organization? I know in NE Tenn, we face this alot. Schools that should have 50-60 boys on the team, have 20-25. Only the most dedicated show up. That can work out as we heard above if there are several very good athletes in the group. However, if football is a 2nd or 3rd sport at the school, the best athletes are somewhat drawn to the popular sports. Coaches, Administrators, and parents can all encourage young folks to participate in various sports, there is no real downside to doing so (all other things being equal). I don't know how we start the change, except to continue encouraging everyone to participate. If anyone else has any ideas, please chime in!

Hey Warrior! Yep, that's my boy. He's about stopped growing now, and my fridge is counting it's blessings! :justwrestle: I'm looking forward to that game, I think with the other scrimmage and an additional 2 weeks workout things should be alittle more cohesive for the Huskies. New quarterback this year is coming along, and things should start clicking. How are things in Happy Valley? Practices looking good? Care if I ask where you ran across Eric?

Finally got a little info. It was a 4-4 tie. Sounded like both teams leave a lot to be desired in the cohesion department. Most of the scoring was done on defensive breakdowns enabling big plays. Line play was spotty on both sides, do not know the stats, but my son had about 10 tackles for loss, and the other DT had a sack. I'm assuming (and it's probably a good one) that Sunbright had similar totals. How much practice has Sunbright had? I know North Greene has had 9 practices / workouts since last season. Quarterback is still a problem, and the line is unsettled as always. They have 2 guard/tackles with experience and everyone else is learning. Wish I could give more details, just don't have them.

I thought we had gotten away from all of this in the 50's and 60's with the integration of schools. Separate but equal wasn't then and isn't now acceptable.