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  1. Just for fun

    1. Rodney Rankin

    2. Jeff Gudger

    3. Jason Muir

    4. Johnny Morrison

    5. Stephen Dover

    6. Van Kinsey

    7. T.J. Gentle

    8. Joe Dan Gudger

    9. David Donahue

    10. Harold Miller

     

    What ever happened to Rankin? He was tough...I played against him my sophomore year at Fulton ('89). He caught a swing pass in the flats, I came up from corner and tried to cut him and he hurdled me for about a 40 yard gain.

  2. One indicator of the strength of a region is its record against schools OUTSIDE its region. Most high schools in Tennessee will play 6 regional games and 4 games against outside opponents during the 10 game regular season.

    Last year, Region 7 3-A teams played 42 regional games (7 x 6) and 27 games outside the region (...instead of 28. The Milan-Crockett County game was suspended at half and never completed.)

     

    What was the Region 7-A record outside the region? 22 wins, 5 losses. Five of the 7 Region 7 3-A teams did not lose any games outside the region (19-0).

    Haywood lost 2 games outside the region--to playoff teams Sheffield (lost by 9) and 4A power JCM (lost by 15.) Obion Central lost 3 extra-regional games by a total of 5 points: to Dresden by 3, to Gibson County by 1, and by Chester County by 1.

     

    By comparison, Region 2, which produced the state champion in Livingston Academy, had an 18-8 record beyond their region, with one school, Knox Catholic, going undefeated in extra-regional play.

     

    Region 6 3-A teams had a composite 13-14 record outside the region, and had one team (Lexington) go undefeated in extra-regional play.

     

    Of course, no comparisons can finally prove anything in football. We all know that; however, records against schools outside their region are often used in comparing teams.

    ‘Tis true, out of region records can be somewhat indicative of the strength of a particular region…but it can also prove to indicate the weakness of a particular area (i.e. west, middle or east) and disparity in strength of competition, which I think is the case in the comparison between Region 7 and 2-3A. When comparing out of region games and records you may not be comparing “apples to apples.”

    The stats may be valid, but are they reliable for our comparison. I say no.

     

    First, let’s start with the obvious; “Strength of Schedule + Success rating”

    Last year, Region 2 had six teams in the top 20 according to SS+S vs. three for Region 7.

    Region 2 had a SS+S avg. of 1.17 vs. 1.13 for Region 7.

     

    Next, let’s look at the not so obvious; you’re “Out of Region records”

    Yes, Region 7 did appear to have great success versus non-regional opponents, but was this not a reflection of the inadequacies of the area.

    If you evaluate the out of region games for Region 2 and 7 you will see a large disparity in two categories: combined overall record of non-region opponents and opponents over .500 (IMO this would indicate overall opponent strength)

    - The combined record of non-region opponents for Region 2 was 174-139 or .556 vs. the 111-191 or .367 for Region 7…almost a 200 point disparity.

    - Also, Region 2 played 14 non-region opponents with records over .500 vs. 5 for Region 7.

     

    Furthermore, in the last 5 years, Region 2 has represented the east side of the bracket every single year…winning the title 4 times during that span.

  3. Good Job Livingston!

    Your boys were battle tested and it showed in their heart and determination today!

    They really wore the slipper well and made a name for your team and your school!

     

    I saw the LA team when they came to Fulton and they played with a blue-collar, never give-up attitude. You guys have definitely added a little extra spice and additional strength to an already tough region. I cant wait to travel to the plateau next year. I'm sure the atmosphere is great!

     

    Again, Congrats...Way to represent the region...Your team, fans and community should be proud...!!!

  4. First, Congrats to Alcoa on the win...They have talent at every position and will be tought to beat on the road to the 'boro.

     

    Second, in response to the all the criticism of the Falcons:

    #1 The starting quarterback (whom is a Sophomore himself) was suspended just prior to the game. Another Sophomore and a Freshman shared time at QB during the game Neither had any real game time experience. If the QB situation is unchanged from last year (barring suspensions and a transfer), these would be our 4th and 5th string QBs. No team would even want to face, or have much success against Alcoa under those circumstances.

    I was not going to comment on the game, but I am really taking offense and dont think the comments are fair or warranted, considering we had numerous turnovers, several unclean snaps and could never get into a flow on offense, due to the QB situation. I am sure that the Tornadoes had some to do with it, but the situation was not a good one for extremely young, non-experienced QBs.

    #2 Our All-State linebacker, Tyrone Cobb, never saw the field. Seems like I heard a bunch of Alcoa fans last night at the game, screaming that they would have beaten Maryville and been 3-0, if Warren had not been suspended for that game (because Maryville was "running all the plays, where Warren would have been"...interesting concept). Even though I dont agree with their logic (or lack of logic), I think even they can understand the impact of losing an All-Star.

     

    The game was not indicative of our talent, and was definitely not typical Fulton football. Fulton has good players and an exceptional coaching staff. I am sure that they will see this as a challenge and tackle it head-on!

  5. Yeah Yeah Yeah, anything you say.  The Jamboree is over and AE coaches, players, and fans will be moving on and focusing on Red BankPowell beat AE in the Jamboree, "Wow that's awesome!" Let's just give Powell the state title now..   

     

    Now to Red Bank

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    I am still sensing defensiveness. Your self imposed reverse-psychology is a weak and failed attempt to mitigate and cushion your deeply rooted disappointment and frustration with your beloved Runners this preseason.

    Also, I could really care less how Powell fairs!

     

    Hmmm...AERoadrunner a closet Falcon fan. Dont worry, we will even let you come and join the Fulton Bandwagoneers!!!

  6. I'm glad you're trying to single me out because you know your Falcons and Bulldogs fans has been going at each other for a long time but you didn't address that did you?  If you're going to single one person out you need to single them all out.

     

    Now like I said in my lost post, "Powell will need to find more then 1 playmaker because if they don't, they better start getting ready for basketball now."  Cody played an awesome game but it's a team effort that's the only thing I'm saying.  MsMoker if this will help you out, "POWELL was the best team that night!"  How you liked that?  IF I say that I'll be lying because the best team in my opinion, was Central!!! 

     

    No sour grapes going into or after the AE/Powell jamboree game.  You can ask Kwalker what I said before AE took the field and you'll know that this isn't any sour grapes.  KWALKER, email that person don't post in on here. That's not CoachT material :lol:

    The best of luck to all Knoxville teams..  See ya in two weeks Fulton FAlcons but for now it's RED BANK time!!!

     

    Let's GO AE!!

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    I am referring to how ridiculous it is for you to argue, with continuous posts about whether or not he spun or should have spun, and whether or not that would translate to wins.

     

    I know you can be sensible and I actually enjoy reading some of your banter on these boards...I just wanted to give you an outsiders perspective and let you know that, even though you were immersed in a battle of words, the argument began to sound a little silly and I translated that as frustration from losing the quarter (which in itself is also a little silly).

    Anyway...good luck this week at Red Bank.

  7. AERoadrunner: This going back and forth with these Powell people is getting a little ridiculous. I saw the Watts kid and he definitely impressed me. Whether he spun, ran-over, hurdled, juked or did the electric slide down the field doesn’t matter...the number one thing is getting to the end zone, and he did that piece quite well. So give him his due. Sounds like sour grapes on your part. Let it go!

     

    As for My Falcons...They seem to be coming along quite well and, as usual, showed great athletic ability on some key plays, coupled with some fierce hits and de-cleaters. I have been on both sides of those plays (I played in a game against Alcoa in the late 80s, in which B Williams and S Mitchell where laying crack-backs almost every play--we had players dropping like flies and we all were a little woozy after that one) and I would have rather been on the "crack-back" side of that one...especially when they replay it on the jumbo-tron.

     

    I really enjoyed the pageantry of the jamboree. It is refreshing to have such a great event to celebrate Knoxville football. All teams should be proud!

  8. Znagglepuz:

    If you asked my staff to reply on Project Grad, they would either tell you that they didnt know anything about it or that they had never heard if it (they live in the Farragut/Lenior city area). I am in fact not working with the schools or a teacher at all, but I know a good thing when I see it. Sure, you cant make some parents get involved, even if you "beat down their door." But that can be the case with many upper-middle and affluent communities. I too wish that other communities were able to implement the program...maybe they will in the future. The bottom line is the fact that if there are negatives, they are far and away outweighed by the positives.

     

    I was only quoting an article written by Principal Hatcher. I am a Fulton and UT grad, and will shortly have a Master's degree. Like you, I have paid for my continued education with loans that I am still paying to this day...but I dont hold that against the kids involved in the program (that is where self-consumed comes into play). Does your frustration really stem from the fact that you are an ex-Central coach and you have an ax to grind with Fulton and anything the school is associated with?

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