Coach2001

Any thoughts?

District 12AA Teams are in alphabetical order. East Hickman Fairview Giles County Hickman County Lewis County Marshall County Page Spriing Hill With the loss of Loretto to 1A and Fairview coming in, how will this district play out? Marshall County lost a lot to graduation but have a great coach and always have athletes. What do you guys think? 1. Marshall County 2. Hickman County 3. Lewis County 4. Fairview 5. Spring Hill 6. Page 7. Giles County 8. East Hickman

District 11aa schools in alphabetical order: Camden Central Cheatham County Creek Wood Harpeth Montgomery Central Stewart County Waverly Central What do you guys think? 1. Harpeth 2. Cheatham County 3. Waverly 4. Creek Wood 5. Camden Central 6. Montgomery Central 7. Stewart County Any of these teams are capable of beating each other. The winner of this district could very well be 8-4 or 7-5 because of the parity in this district. Very good coaches with alot of great players.

AAA Smyrna/Wilson Central/Memphis Central AA Gibson County/Upperman/Marshall County A Clarkrange/Jackson County/Oliver Springs

I think your list is very accurate. Here is my top 5 in the order I think. 1. Clarkrange 2. Bradford 3. Jackson County 4. Oliver Springs 5. Forrest

1. Upperman 2. Livingston 3. Smith County 4. Cannon County 5. York 6. Macon County 7. Dekalb County Upperman and Livingston will once again be the class of 7AA. Smith, York, and Cannon will battle for 3 thru 5. I suspect Dekalb will get their first district win in a long time this year.

1. Marshall County 2. Hickman County 3. Lewis County 4. Loretto 5. Giles County 6. Page 7. Spring Hill 8. East Hickman Marshall County is once again class of this league and should be ready to make another title run. Hickman, Lewis, and Loretto are all solid and could finish in any order. Giles should be a solid 5 with Page, Spring Hill, and East Hickman rounding out the rest of the league.

1. East Literature 2. CPA 3. David Lipscomb 4. Hume Fogg 5. FRA 6. Pearl Cohn 7. Ezell Harding 8. MLK

This district is once again loaded to the max. 1. Smyrna--should have sour taste in their mouth and hungry to make return trip to the Murph 2. Wilson Central--Jasmine Hassel.... Any questions? 3. Mount Juliet--Always prepared and will play harder than anyone else in the district. 4. Lavergne--Easily the most talented but the ones above them have been there! 5. Beech--On paper always come up a little short but when the lights come on watch out! 6. Gallatin--New coach and new ideas to this program with a lot of tradition but a couple of years away. 7. Hendersonville--Will compete in several games but is just outmatched. Any of the top 4 can win this district and ultimately challenge for the state championship. This district is just that good. Too bad reallignment will change that next year.

Looks pretty good! 1. Gibson County 2. Martin Westview 3. Dyersburg 4. Milan 5. Obion Central 6. Dyer Co. 7. Crockett Co.

1. Friendship--this may be the year they get back on top. Veteran squad that will have chance to win with the 2 traditional powers in district a little down (Westmoreland, Gordonsville). 2. Gordonsville--having said they are down.... I still think Coach Agee and company will be a tough out in this district. 3. Westmoreland--After losing alot of production they will not be near as good as last 8 years or so but still know how to win. T4. Trousdale--good incoming freshmen with several returning and will have a chance at region berth. T4. Watertown--Guard play will be suspect for this young team but Thompson is force to be reckoned with. 6. Merrol Hyde--Better but still fighting an uphill battle 7. MJCA-- ready to make jump to DII so could surprise some people if they get off to a good start.

1. Riverdale 2. Cookeville 3. Lebanon 4. Blackman 5. Siegel 6. White Co. 7. Oakland 8. Warren Co. I think Riverdale and Cookeville are the class of the league and probably split during season. I see Riverdale probably getting the edge in the tournament.

1. SC 2. Grundy 3. CCS 4. Hixson 5. Howard 6. Marion 7. Bledsoe 8. Notre Dame 9. East Ridge

1. Station Camp---Team on verge of making a major splash in their last year of AA 2. DCA- return a majority of their players and a transfer from Cheatham to an already competitive squad. 3. Goodpasture- Coach Spann alone gets them in the top 3 in this district. New intensity, attitude and focus 4. White House- A little more tradition than the bottom 2 and will be capable of knocking of the 2 and 3 5. Portland--rebuilding and headed for AAA 6. Greenbriar--make get an upset if overlooked

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Its looks like all top 4 teams had a relatively easy time last night. Now on to the semi-finals. #1 Lewis County vs. #4 Hickman County #2 Marshall County vs. #3 Giles County Who wins these games? Will the top 2 dominate or will there be an upset special?

I don't know how they voted. Could it be that the jc girls bc they are so good cancelled each other out with the voting. You have Leonard, Dyer, and Maxwell who on any given night could have hurt certain teams which in turn split the vote. Btw, Phillips is an outstanding player and well deserving.

What if the official(s) refuse to come to you during timeout so you can intelligently discuss a situation with them?

It sounds like to me the officials were well prepared for this game. In my opinion, this should be the approach every night for officials. I think too many times officials come into a game and predetermine that this game will be a blowout or one team is far superior to the other. Although this maybe true , there are upsets and there are battles between less talented teams and I think the superior teams sometimes get the benefit of the doubt. I am speaking on this bc I have been on both sides of the fence as I have coached superior and inferior teams as well as officiate.

I agree. There is no such foul as a "reach" foul or "over the back" foul. Here is something you might want to think about. I would venture to say that officials make more than some coaches. Many coaching supplements range anywhere from 1500 to approximately 8 to 10000. So the average coach by number makes around 4 to 5000. If an official works junior high freshman and varsity then they could work 3 to 5 times per week for 5 months. An official could easily make 4 to 5000 dollars which is equivalent to the supplement of many coaches. Therefore, I do see the point where officials could be fined in some cases. Having said that, the majority of officials do the best they can and coaches do as well. Please understand, I am not saying officials should be repromanded for missing calls bc we all know that coaches make many mistakes as well. I do feel if coaches or officials get out of line then there should be consequences for both. I still feel that human to human meetings outside of the gym during games would be beneficial to all involved.

Just to clarify something.... The title of these people are ASSISTANT COACHES'. They are not called assistant practice coaches but people that should be able to coach (NOT QUESTION OR YELL AT OFFICIALS) but coach. People like this are what coaches get upset about. Assistants referred by dragonmaster what officials get upset about. On behalf of all current and former assistant coaches, I take great offense to this post.

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Ernie, you sound like you have a good handle on things during your games. While you may not worry as much about bench decorum but there are many that do. I know they are many different personalities with all officials as well as coaches so meetings and attitudes will vary. My whole point to this topic to me is to find a way to create actual human relationships between coaches and players and I feel this could be done. I believe more positive would come out of it than negative. If negative did occur, then you as coaches, officials, and supervisors could find a way to keep the ones that have had altercations apart from each other until things could possibly be resolved. I am not talking about an occasional technical foul. This is real life and in some cases there would be no reconcilliation. (sp) As for your question about the technical situation, I have been faced with very similar situations as an official and I did not give the assistant a technical bc I did not lose my composure. I assessed the original technical to head coach, reported it, and rotatated away from their bench.

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ErnieG, I do agree with many things that you have stated. It is the job of the assigning officer/supervisor to assign all officials to sites and the crew that they will be with (which is extremely difficult). I have seen coaches go crazy after what they thought were missed calls and get T. I have seen officials bait coaches. I have seen coaches go crazy and nothing is ever done to them for whatever reason. I have also seen coaches not say anything and get a T for the first words that come out of their mouth. I understand that convenience of same crew and travel is necessary sometimes(especially with gas prices). However I think if coaches and officials worked together.....then many instances could be avoided. They would become better acquainted with each others point of view. At the risk of sounding like a know it all because I am not. I have many years experience officiating and coaching and no it is not jr. pro but at a much higher level. Here are a few more suggestions for game management. 1. In the pregame meeting. Always be cordial with each other and do not issue warnings there. I agree 100% assistants should not ever be critical of an official, but allow them to do some coaching. I think too much emphasis is put on the small stuff. If they jump up in excitement for there team, you do not have to give them a warning or T or tell them to sit down and that has happened on many occasions. 2. During the game, as an official you should concentrate more on what is inside the lines than if an assistant stood up or if a coach has stepped a foot outside of the box. As a coach, control what you can control and that is your players attitude and effort. Demeanor by both parties can affect these type of things in a major way. 3. I feel that crews should not work back to back nights or even in the same week at the same school. Alot of emotion is poured into these games by all parties.....players, coaches, and officials.... and I think some things could be avoided if that didn't happen. 4. I also think that if there is an altercation, then remove that official(s) from those teams for a little while. Adjust the schedule which I know can be a pain. Bottom Line: If everyone wants to make basketball better then there definitely needs to be some modifications and it can be done. Select a committee of coaches and officials that can discuss situations with each other to find resolution or at least remedy a situation from happening again. I bet schools would be willing to give officials copies of the games they worked. Coaches and players watch alot of film so they can improve. I think officials could do the same. Best wishes to all.