gablefan

" The state tournament is the very best in the state and the officials should be as well. It shouldn't be a popularity contest but rather "who's the best"." Probably has some politics involved like everything else does.

I remember Josh Keller wrestling a brilliant State Finals finals match...until he got turned and pinned! Did anyone tell him he didn't belong there? NO Point being everyone makes mistakes. I had no dog in the hunt, but I didn't think it was that bad. Were there questionable calls made? Yes there were. Did I agree with every call, no I didn't. But in the past thirty years I haven't agreed with every call at the State Tournament. These things happen. I believe most of these ref's are there, because they want to do their best and love the sport. Unless you want to do something about it, you don't have to like it, but you have to live with it!

`After three rounds 108.5 to 108 doesn't sound like a lock!

Konz by 3-6!

103 Johnson vs Randolph Winner Randoplh 112 Coleman vs. Konz W Konz 119 Ortiz vs. Myers W Ortiz 125 Bundy vs. Usary W Bundy 130 Fuller vs. Miller W Fuller 135 Holliman vs. Felix W Holliman 140 Creagan vs. Johnson W Creaga 145 Barnett vs. Konz W Konz 152 Spain vs. Johnson W Spain 160 Davis vs. Borneman W Bourneman 171 Knox vs. Minwell W Knox 189 Meredith vs. Kirn W Meredith 215 Reviez vs. Hanson W Hanson 275 Taylor vs. Allen W Taylor

103 Jason Casteele (Oakl) vs. Kent Johnson (Coll) Talan Noman vs. Hunter Randolph (Brad) 112 Danny Coleman (Cleve) vs. Demetrius Johnson (Bright) Ryan Konz (Frk) vs. Julian Flores (SH) 119 Mike Ortiz (Frk) vs. Jason McCroskey (SD) Caleb Myers (Gr) vs. Cole Geren (SDoyle) 125 Nic Bundy (Hv) vs. Jonas Gibbs (Ridge) Bo Usary (SH) vs. Tanner Withrow (Brad) 130 Jeramy Webb (Sey) vs. Ryan Fuller (SD) Josh Allen (Ross) vs. Pete Miller (Cleve) 135 Mason Caples (Hb) vs. Kellon Holliman ( Bw) Jim Kleinert (Beech) vs. Kelly Felix ( Frk) 140 Travis Creagan (Brad) vs. Bradley Felix (Frk) Justin Tisdale (Beech) vs. Deantonio Johnson (ELM) 145 Andrew Barnett (Germ) vs. Mark Fuller (Brad) Joel Konz (Frk) vs. Jimbo Nichols (Cleve) 152 Justin Spain (Brad) vs. William Lowe (McGav) Aaron O'hern (Beard) vs. David Johnson (Ross) 160 Bond Davis (Frk) vs. Samuel Hebda (Clk) Matt Sansevero (SevCo) vs. Lucas Borneman (Hou) 171 Justin Knox (Farr) vs. Josh Bourland (Bolt) Frankie Morgan (UnionC) vs. Thomas Minwell (Clk) 189 Kenny Meredith (Black) vs. Ben O'Neil (DBen) John Kirn (Frk) vs. James Weakley (Clk) 215 Stanley Brooks (DC) vs. Nick Reveiz (Farr) Uri Hansen (Ridge) vs. Ethan Henley (SH) 275 Ben Hazelett (UnionC) vs. Carl Taylor (Ridge) John Vandergriff (KHalls) vs. Stewart Allen (Cord)

We have gone over this a hundred times on this board! This topic will never die!

BA and McCallie Correct?

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You're right we should "prolly" have a boxing match at the same time so we could see the best of both worlds! Maybe even turn this thing into some ultimate fighting stuff. And besides I didn't know it was the referee's fault...totally different now! That makes it all better!

How is it that "private schools" get caught cheating. A split comes about, and all of a sudden, its all the DI coaches " crying, moaning and calling for a SPLIT" ??? Somebody please explain that to me.

By making us, the parents, pay for Hydration tests for our kids!.....Wait a minute it goes into pockets, not to the athletes. Sarcasm aside, has anyone ever thought about breaking off from the TSSAA to start a new state association?

WOW! Pretty sad. Evidently some people have forgotten that this is about High School Athletics, and our Kids! Why should one Organization rule everything? Isn't there some other option out there, that we could take? How did Carter get so powerful? Sad, everything is about money these days.

"When State???" This coming up weekend!

So I guess if Kenny were to punch his opponent this weekend in the semifinals you would be OK with it because it added excitement??? Probably not. No it was not interesting, it was sad. We all witnessed a great wrestling tournament, but what sticks out the most? A fight.

Are you serious? How can you say that is good for the sport?

WHOOPS!

So what happens when two athletes are evenly matched? At some point a referee has to take responsibility for a mistake. No, Franklin has no right to recognize him as a State Champion. No, the TSSAA will not change the outcome. How many matches in the State Finals are won by one point or two? How many in overtime or double OT? Eventually a couple matches will be in the hands of an official.

That's probably what the Mater Dei kid thought too! Meredith will win , but won't totally dominate like he did in the brentwood finals. He will control the match just not totally dominate! Different styles will probably lead to a 4-6 point match with not alot of people ooowing and ahhhing like predicted. or a pin.

It shouldn't have anything to do with Career. Those are saved for "Dream Team" like awards. This is for the M.O.W. of the State Tournament. Who is the Most Outstanding wrestler in your opinion? Is it more outstanding to pin your way through a weaker weight class or knock off a defending State Champion? Is it more Outstanding to tech. your opponent in the finals or go through the tournament not being scored upon? All of these questions we have no set guidelines for. Which, in a way is good. If it were that simple it would be too cut and dry. Although it seems recently we have taken a step towards going on who scores the most team points. But on the other hand, in 94', 98' and 99' the wrestlers who won best wrestler, although very deserving, did not accumulate the highest team point total. Again it's all personal preference! Just Icing on the State Cake!

I believe the same rule may have applied for High School as it did for college, or perhaps junior high was still considered 7-9 back then?

Perhaps instead of having a big break in between the consolation finals amd finals, we take about an hour or so get the mats right and wrestle. Then we can see one start at about 2:00 and one start @ 4:30- 5:00? we get to see it all and we get out at a reasonable hour.