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Been out of coaching for awhile. Where is the best overnight girl's high school basketball camp? Camps have become extremely expensive. Is there one, for the money, that is better than most. Mid level competition. Division AA team.

I also think Coach Dugger will do a good job. He has a great knowledge of the game and the girls will definetly be prepared. Rik Anderson is coaching the boys middle school team at Happy Valley. I think he has had some chances to move back to the high school level but has not done so. ScottA, I think I remember you from your UH days. Did you move to the Knoxville area? If so what are you doing now?

written word, thanks for the information. you are right about the competition. even the double A and triple A teams were not as strong as they have been in the past. Elizabethton and Unaka had decent teams but other than them the level of play was down from years past. sometimes teams are limited on who they may play and develop some bad habits that might work against less competitive teams. congrats to the lady indians. I know their tradition of winning and making it to the state tournament runs deep. at least a few upper east tennessee teams are making it to the sub state year in and year out and even a few to the state tournament. if you get a chance written word, a little more detail of the game. you seem to have a good understanding of the game itself so what was the big difference in the outcome? I know you talked about the shooting but, were they getting uncontested shots, or did they (either team) take bad shots. how was the defense? did Oneida press Cloudland? did Cloudland press Oneida? had heard Oneida had some speed and that at times gave Cloudland a little trouble. they (Oneida) must have guarded Lunsford and Banner pretty well to only have given up 41 points. Cloudland normally scores a few more points. would like to hear your personal take of the game. again, thanks for the information.

Does anyone have any details of the Cloudland and Oneida game? Oneida must have been a little better than most people at Cloudland thought. Hard to come into Roan Mountain and get a win. Any information appreciated.

some great posts..... here are some of my thoughts on this matter: 1. In our area most of the officials have been calling for a few years. It has become harder for them to maintain themselves in the correct position. Most call 2 or more games per night and by the time the last one rolls along are getting a little tired. Many of them call like it seems they are just wanting to get the game over. We all know as we get tired little things seem to bother us more. Some have been around so long they think the game resolves around them and not the kids. 2. The new officials coming in seem to be ones that have never played the game and don't understand it. The money has gotten pretty good so that is the main reason for calling. Most officials used to call for the love of the game itself. Now it seems to be how much money can be made. With this in mind they do not realize what is taking place in the game itself, big games emotions run high, spirits are high and more things are done and said. Common sense must be used in some circumstances and the rules must be interputed as such. Rules are made to make the game fair and just for all. If the event does not effect the game itself common sense should take over. But if you don't understand this, have never experienced this it would be hard to do. Remember, we are talking about a select few. We have many good officials that do a great job, and they are.....doesn't it seem like the best officiated games you have you can't remember the refs being there.....they have just blended into the game... I do appreciate this type of official or the one that tells me if I'm getting out of line. Tell me, if I continue, then "T" me, I deserve it. And after all thats all we are looking for, getting what we deserve.

Got a technical foul called the other night by a highly experienced official for making the statement, "guys, we need a few more fouls called out there". It was in the 3rd quarter and it wasn't said very loud at all. My assistant coach, sitting right behind me even didn't hear me say it. The official had just let a hard contact play occur and was walking by in front of me going the other direction. I had not said anything to anyone about the officiating in the 1st half. Called time out and tried to ask him why and he said "I don't have to explain it". We have never had prior run-ins or anything. My question to other coaches....What are some of the cheapest technicals you have had called on you or some of the things you have done to get one? My question to you officials.....What are some of the things that set you off? Do you have discussions with other officials prior to the game or at half time? Do some of you look to give them easily?

To Pageman, Is there or was there someone that coached the girls, freshmen I believe by the name of Todd Garrison? He used to be the coach at Johnson County and I thought someone said he went to Page High School. Didn't know if he was there if he would be considered for the job. Thanks for any info.

I can say that no one has more class or thinks about the other team any more that Dr. Williams at Cosby. I have been around alot programs and he does it the way it should be done. Dr. Williams owed it to his fans to announce what time the game was to be played. One question, did they say that Cosby would be playing at that time or did they say the winner of the contest would play at that time. If Cosby's name was used then it wasn't the best thing to say even if the game was not in doubt. But I'm sure Dr. Williams wouldn't do anything intentionally to embrass the opposing team. Congrats to Dr. Williams and the Cosby Lady Eagles. Looks like the run you had this season is coming to a close. Great year.

Coach Farthing does a decent job as an assistant coach and Coach Wilson has done a good job in the past few years. But I think Coach Able from Happy Valley is a better assistant coach than Farthing. Coach Able's knowledge of the game is just amazing. His rapport with the players can't be matched. If the valley would let him do the coaching they would be a much higher seed. Would be interesting to get the assistant coaches on here and see what changes they would make in their programs. Not to do any backsabbing just interested to see how they view their programs differently than the head coaches. Maybe Wilson and Farthering are like the weapons of mass destruction in Iran. Oh I forgot, those just might have been make believe.

He (Coach Anderson) tried coaching junior high ball. Ask him what his record was this year. A lot of people are coming out of retirement lately. Could be you. Really didn't want to know about your night time habits. Getting to bed early will get you in trouble, oh, I forgot you already know that.

Osubrutus, Nice to know you went to bed early even though you are on a delay schedule. You must be dreaming. Coach Anderson is a has been. Too old to coach anymore. Find someone young and ready to coach. I also believe Coach Farthering or Coach Abel would be a great choice for the job. Or even you might want to check into the coaching field again if it opened up. With you knowledge of the game I know the Toppers would be scoring 80 points a night and giving up only 85. I mean 58. Have trouble with numbers. On a serious side, agree with some of the earlier posts. Not always the coach's fault. Sometimes players don't do what the coach wants or teaches. Know from experience. Go back to sleep, Osubrutus.

The "News" is back in basketball. Coaching the 7th grade boys at Cloudland. Just started about 3 weeks ago and got booted from his first game out. Same ole "News". Believe Hazelwood was offered the girls job but declined it to get a shot at the boys (which he later got).

Osubrutus, sounds like you got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning. Relax, enjoy your day off. Start some threads about the Lady Rangers. Did you see the game last night? (HV that is). If so, opinons? If not, then make some up. Ask coachh what happened to Baughman. How good do you think the Lady Warriors could be? Think positive thoughts!!!!

Great job Morristown East. Good victory over a pretty good Cosby team. Nice job Coach Livesay. Hope Dr. Williams didn't get too mad at you. Any information on the game?

I think each of you need to go back and read your own comments. Most of you are putting everyone down from Roan Mountain and from the creek. lander 22 just directed his comment to a certain person. Which wasn't very bright. If you want to make predictions, poke fun of the players, coaches, etc., then do that. You should leave the Community out of it. Not everyone that writes on here represents Roan Mountain or do they represent Stoney Creek. If that was the case then we all would really be in trouble. Go at it with each other but leave the others out. by the way landers 22, we don't buy the bit about Gatlinburg Pittman..

What happened to the lady warriors? They had been playing better lately. Did Boone just take them out of everything that wanted to do or did the valley just not show up? I know Boone is a better team but are they that much better? Give a little more insight on the game please. and not very good defense.....

obrutone, again you say something right and start to make a good point and end up with your foot in your mouth. (agree) The big thing is not what the other team is doing but who are they doing it with. Some teams are pressing teams, some are not. Everyone that walks onto the floor must be taught to give 100%. Any varsity team should be able to compete against another varstiy's 2nd or 3rd string players. If not, and not a conference team, then a very poor job of scheduling by the coaches. And that's what happend to Cloudland, very poor scheduling. A coach can keep their players in shape. The team might not like it but they can be in shape. So brut, ever run the score up on someone? ever been on the other end? if so, let us know what you felt like.

don't you two (obrutiful and coachless) have anything better to do than post on coacht....oh, guess that would include me also....anyway back to the thread....anyone have insight to the game last night....know UH has improved some, got beat by Unicoi by only 8, but this was at Cloudland....not totally surprised by UH winning just mostly by the margin of victory....a great win for UH.....a terrible loss for Cloudland.....someone tell us about the game.....you other two need to get back to work....

Just got through watching the master of middle school basketball show his stuff. That is Leon Tolley. Any high school looking to build a program or take theirs to the next level should come knocking at his door. Coach Tolley has built a successful program at the Hampton Middle School. Year in and year out his team is tops in the county and competes for the regional championship. They play hard and show the discipline that many of the area high school teams are lacking. So if any AD's are looking for a great addition to their program, a lot of our area teams need something, then just look up at the bulldog haven and get started on a successful program. Great job, Coach Tolley.

ole great brutus one, we must live in the present, not in the past or future. Teams are judged on their preformance not potental. If a team is not doing what they should be doing then why would one think they would come on at tournament time. Sure a team does not want to be playing better now than at the tournament time but who is to say a team can't play well all the time. Saying a team is a tournament team is like saying a player is just a game player and not a practice player. Teams and players normally preform as they practice and this is the practice time for teams. Letting down now will normally mean letting down later. Sure their (Unaka) tough schedule will help them but their letups (North Greene) will come back to haunt them if they are not careful. Cloudland on the other hand seems to be heading in the wrong direction. Maybe Happy Valley has improved more than Cloudland. Anyway teams need to progressively get better as the year goes along. Too many ups and too many downs don't make it look promising for the post season.

new to be hubbies and pa's should be careful because soon never before heard sounds and events will be replacing one's ability to logically focus and give (see lost my train of thought for a moment) sterling remarks here on coacht. Be care not insight the wrath of the "press" because one day they may or not be talking about one of your own. Which could be good or bad depending on how you want to look at it. You say you are "dead", you don't even know the meaning yet, but you will. Yet you won't change it for any state championship in the world. Go figure. Now for the thread, Unaka has a lot of talent and seems to be heading in the right direction with playing teams that have that winning tradition. Girls basketball is not always won with talent. The mental aspect comes into play with girls a lot more then with boys. They need to know they can beat Cloudland on a regular basis, not just saying they can. They have to prove it to themselves and everyone else. When and if this does happen a couple of times it won't be so hard the next times. Watching Cloudland play the other day they do have a lot of deficientcies but still play with that winning attitude. Beat a Happy Valley team which had more talent but with a lower self and team attitude. Remember as has been said before the game is probably 80% mental and with girls it's probably closer to 90% mental and the rest of its in their head.

Osubrutus, one.....be care not to fall on your sharpened axe and cut your own throat.

You seem to know a lot about Unaka Lady Ranger basketball. Do you really have an insight to their program or do you just have a really good imagination? Read something about you being there once but not now. A person with your knowledge should be involved in a basketball program somewhere. Are you doing any coaching or just commentary? Do you really think the Lady Rangers can get over the hump this year and take down the Lady Highlanders? How will they compare with the rest of the county? Do they play any of the other schools? Figured you would know all. You're the man.

Happy Valley Middle School is putting on a team camp for both boys and girls. It is June 2nd - 5th with games being played at the High School and at the Middle School. Cost is $100 per team for 8 games. If interested please e-mail - dukevol@hotmail.com

I also would like to wish the Lady Landers good luck on Wednesday. These seniors have come a long way since they were freshmen. Remember you represent all the Lady Landers that have come before you. Take the Lander pride with you and do us proud.